inverse of a matrix with Fraction entries

Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.python at pearwood.info
Sat Nov 27 18:08:02 EST 2010


On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:21:47 -0800, casevh wrote:

> On Nov 26, 2:11 pm, Steven D'Aprano <steve
> +comp.lang.pyt... at pearwood.info> wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:54:12 -0800, John Nagle wrote:
>> > For ordinary number crunching,
>> > rational arithmetic is completely inappropriate.
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> --
>> Steven
> As you perform repeated calculations with rationals, the size of the
> values (usually) keep growing. (Where size is measured as the length of
> numerator and denominator.) The speed and memory requirements are no
> longer constant.

You're not comparing apples with apples. You're comparing arbitrary 
precision calculations with fixed precision calculations. If you want 
fixed memory requirements, you should use fixed-precision rationals. Most 
rationals I know of have a method for limiting the denominator to a 
maximum value (even if not necessarily convenient).

On the other hand, if you want infinite precision, there are floating 
point implementations that offer that too. How well do you think they 
perform relative to rationals? (Hint: what are the memory requirements 
for an infinite precision binary float equal to fraction(1, 3)? *wink*)

Forth originally didn't offer floats, because there is nothing you can do 
with floats that can't be done slightly less conveniently but more 
accurately with a pair of integers treated as a rational. Floats, after 
all, *are* rationals, where the denominator is implied rather than 
explicit.

I suspect that if rational arithmetic had been given half the attention 
that floating point arithmetic has been given, most of the performance 
difficulties would be significantly reduced. Perhaps not entirely 
eliminated, but I would expect that for a fixed precision calculation, we 
should have equivalent big-Oh behaviour, differing on the multiplicative 
factors.

In any case, the real lesson of your benchmark is that infinite precision 
is quite costly, no matter how you implement it :)



-- 
Steven



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