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Tue Nov 2 14:10:48 EDT 2010
On 2010-11-02, Steven D'Aprano <steve at REMOVE-THIS-cybersource.com.au> wrote:
> I've lost more time to reading people's bitching about indentation than I
> have dealing with indentation problems.
Doesn't totally surprise me. :)
> But then, I don't insist on using tools which are broken by design.
Neither do I.
> If your email server converts plain text to HTML, it is broken.
Yup. I have an open ticket with the IT department. :)
> If your
> editor changes spaces to tabs, or visa versa, without being told to do so
> (either by an explicit command or an obvious setting), then your editor
> is broken.
Yes. But that's the thing -- I *want* that behavior for every other tool,
file format, or other thing I work with.
> If you are stuck with broken mail servers and broken editors and broken
> tools because of political reasons, then you have my sympathy. But stop
> insisting that everybody has to carry the overhead of your work-arounds
> for your broken tools.
I have made no such insistance. I have not said Python should change. I
have not said other people should want what I want. I'm not the one telling
other people that editors they've used happily for twenty years without
any problems are clearly wrong.
I have merely observed that Python is, in this respect, gratuitously
brittle. It doesn't observe the robustness principle; it is
conservative in what it accepts, and in particular, is vulnerable to a
category of problem which is fairly common, well-known, and likely to
remain common for the next few decades.
There are reasons for it to be this way, and I don't object to the
existence of people who prefer that side of the tradeoff. I do dislike
it when people smugly tell me off for having different preferences.
-s
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