"Strong typing vs. strong testing"

Keith Thompson kst-u at mib.org
Fri Oct 1 20:58:26 CEST 2010


RG <rNOSPAMon at flownet.com> writes:
> In article <slrniaa0gi.6t7.usenet-nospam at guild.seebs.net>,
>  Seebs <usenet-nospam at seebs.net> wrote:
>
>> On 2010-09-30, RG <rNOSPAMon at flownet.com> wrote:
>> > That gives (what I would consider to be) false positives, e.g.:
>> 
>> > [ron at mighty:~]$ cat foo.c
>> 
>> > void foo(long x) {}
>> 
>> > int main() { foo(1); }
>> > [ron at mighty:~]$ gcc -Wconversion foo.c
>> > foo.c: In function ???main???:
>> > foo.c:4: warning: passing argument 1 of ???foo??? with different width due 
>> > to prototype
>> 
>> But it's *not* a false positive.  The compiler is not claiming that the
>> conversion couldn't be done -- it's just telling you that there is a
>> change of type going on.
>
> Again, you can't have it both ways.  Either a warning is a "compiler 
> error" according to the claim at issue (see below) or it is not.  If it 
> is, then this is a false positive.  If it is not, then my previous 
> example refutes the claim.
[...]

In this case, the conversion (from int to long) cannot fail (barring
undefined behavior elsewhere in the program), because long is
guaranteed to be able to hold any value within the range of int.

It would be reasonable, at least as an option, to warn only about
conversions that can fail, or only about conversions that can lose
information, perhaps distinguishing between implicit conversions
and explicit conversions (casts).

Even the warning about foo(1) is not entirely unreasonable; some
programmers might prefer to write foo(1L) rather than foo(1),
to make it clear that the argument being passed is of type long
rather than int.

I don't know whether gcc provides this level of control over which
conversions it warns about, but again, that's a gcc issue, not a
C issue.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u at mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
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