allow line break at operators
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Thu Aug 11 23:19:18 CEST 2011
On 2011-08-11, Ben Finney <ben+python at benfinney.id.au> wrote:
> What evidence do you have of these? The latter, especially, seems to be
> mere opinion unfounded in any measurement.
Well, on new collection of data, I'm less convinced.
The basic rule is:
Engineers are nearly always aware of tradeoffs. If I suddenly encounter
something where many engineers perceive a tradeoff, and a few deny that
there is any tradeoff at all, that usually means that the latter category
are not actually doing the engineering thing.
> Again, I don't know where you've been observing that, but it's not what
> I've seen.
I've seen it some here, and in other Python discussion threads. I've also
seen counterexamples, though, more now that I brought it up.
> You're welcome to attempt to demonstrate the superiority of some other
> Python-with-braces, but it will (a) be un-Pythonic, and (b) be unlikely
> to gain the efforts of people who don't think what you're addressing is
> a problem.
I have noticed a tendency for "Pythonic" to produce fierce debates in
which there is absolutely nothing measurable to point to. I'm not sold
I guess the thing is this:
I am pretty sure Python is a pretty nice language. However, the indentation
thing has screwed me a few times. Furthermore, I know people who like Python
a great deal and acknowledge, without much difficulty, that the indentation
thing has caused problems or incompatibilities for them.
So when I see people deny that it is at all a problem, or that there are
any possible shortcomings to it, I infer that they have some compelling
reason to deny the existence of a thing which is reliably and easily observed.
See, that's the thing. If you want to tell me that there are problems with
braces, I'll *agree*. I am aware of those problems. I don't feel a need to
deny that they exist.
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