Extending classes __init__behavior for newbies

Westley Martínez anikom15 at gmail.com
Mon Feb 14 22:17:41 EST 2011

On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 16:53 -0800, rantingrick wrote:
> On Feb 14, 6:06 pm, alex23 <wuwe... at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 15, 9:47 am, James Mills <prolo... at shortcircuit.net.au> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:32 AM, rantingrick <rantingr... at gmail.com> wrote:
> ...
> [snip: eloquent speech!]
> ...
> > > I actually agree with this. :)
> > The problem is that it's not a philosophy which the ranting one
> > practices,
> Actually I could argue quite *successfully* that i have been designing
> the rebirth (and fostering the forward thinking evolution!) of the
> entire Python community and some very important aspects of the
> language for the last couple of years. I have risen through the ranks
> from a mere scribe to a truly Pythonic visionary. However, some of my
> fellow "engineers" refuse to move from the design phase into the
> production phase due to "silly squabbling" and "petty posturing". We
> can do many great things if we can put our egos aside and join
> together in a common goal.
> [Anecdote]
> I always find it interesting how once a person joins an online group
> as a "helper" they cannot ask questions anymore. It's like an
> unwritten law you dare not break because if you do your "peers" will
> see you as weak and they will pounce on you, discredit you, and then
> excommunicate you! Any sign of weakness and your out. However if you
> show force and brow beat those who dare challenge you then fear will
> elevate you through the ranks. This should not be the case. No one
> person knows everything. Not even the great Guido van Rossum himself
> could have engineered something like Python alone. Sure, Python is
> *his* brainchild (and a very beautiful one!) however, he would have
> made many mistakes and/or left out many good designs if he did not
> have the help of a strong community.
> [Back on track]
> I would like to see this group drop the egos and start really working
> together. Stop being afraid of how you appear to others and be
> yourself. Some folks will be good in one area and other folks in
> another. Only together can we conquer all problem domains.
> In the end i promise they will respect you more for your honesty. And
> it will not be a respect forged from fear, no, it will be something
> greater! A respect forged from collaboration. A respect of comrades in
> arms. This is the future i bring to c.l.py!

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