Object Models - decoupling data access - good examples ?

Adam Tauno Williams awilliam at whitemice.org
Tue Aug 7 15:00:25 CEST 2012

On Sat, 2012-08-04 at 20:26 -0700, shearichard at gmail.com wrote: 
> > 
> > Just out of curiosity, why do you eschew ORMs?
> Good question !
> I'm not anti-ORM (in fact in many circs I'm quite pro-ORM) but for
> some time I've been working with a client who doesn't want ORMs used
> (they do have quite good reasons for this although probably not as
> good as they think). 

So call the ORM something else.

> I was interested to know, given that was the case, how you might - in
> Python, go about structuring an app which didn't use an ORM but which
> did use a RDBMS fairly intensively.

You'd reinvent the ORM calling it something else - because an ORM is
what you are describing.

This is just a case of those-who-will-not-use-are-doomed-to-recreate.

> I take your point about having "rolled my own ORM" - lol - but I can
> assure you what's in that 'bardb' is a pretty thin layer over the SQL
> and nothing like the, pretty amazing, functionality of, for instance,
> >SQLAlchemy.

This implies that SQLAlchemy is 'fat'.  I don't see any evidence of
that.  It is comprehensive so when you encounter something you can be
confident it is up to the challange.
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