[newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

[lipska the kat]

On 07/08/12 06:35, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 10:24:10 +0100, lipska the kat wrote:
>
>> er, the point I was trying to make is that when you say 'interface' it
>> could mean so many things. If you say 'facade' everyone knows exactly
>> what you are talking about. And that is EXACTLY the point.
>
> The whole point of design patterns is to avoid getting stuck in
> incidental implementation details of a particular library or class and
> look for higher-level design patterns.
>
> The same applies to facade -- it's just a special case of the interface
> pattern.

So you AGREE with me, fantastic, what are we arguing about then (it's 
great fun though isn't it) facade is a SPECIAL case of interface.
You seem to be missing this point.

I may not be as smart or experienced as you but in my fairly wide 
experience of software projects of all sizes the biggest problem is one 
of communication. Design patterns, in my experience help with communication.

I have designed and implemented many facades, I have also designed many 
interfaces. I do not think Java is the be all and end all of programming 
languages but it has paid off my mortgage and provided me with a good 
living. Python interests me because it is different. As far as I can see 
if I'm talking with a Pythonista or a Java developer or a hardware 
engineer (possibly) or a C++ guru or a university lecturer or an Eiffel 
developer and I say 'interface' they will all visualise something 
slightly different, if I say 'facade' they will all (hopefully) know 
EXACTLY what I am talking about.

lipska

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