Python usage numbers

Eric Snow ericsnowcurrently at
Sun Feb 12 02:38:53 CET 2012

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Chris Angelico <rosuav at> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Eric Snow <ericsnowcurrently at> wrote:
>> However, in at
>> least one current thread (on python-ideas) and at a variety of times
>> in the past, _some_ people have found Unicode in Python 3 to make more
>> work.
> If Unicode in Python is causing you more work, isn't it most likely
> that the issue would have come up anyway? For instance, suppose you
> have a web form and you accept customer names, which you then store in
> a database. You could assume that the browser submits it in UTF-8 and
> that your database back-end can accept UTF-8, and then pretend that
> it's all ASCII, but if you then want to upper-case the name for a
> heading, somewhere you're going to needto deal with Unicode; and when
> your programming language has facilities like str.upper(), that's
> going to make it easier, not later. Sure, the simple case is easier if
> you pretend it's all ASCII, but it's still better to have language
> facilities.

Yeah, that's how I see it too.  However, my sample size is much too
small to have any sense of the broader Python 3 experience.  That's
what I'm going for with those Python usage statistics (if it's even


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