Spamming PyPI with stupid packages
rantingrickjohnson at gmail.com
Fri Jan 6 00:26:31 EST 2012
On Jan 3, 8:42 pm, Ben Finney <ben+pyt... at benfinney.id.au> wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.pyt... at pearwood.info> writes:
> > On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:54:09 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > > It objectifies women.
> > So you claim.
> I'm sure you have a hundred ready rationalisations for why a joke that
> has “girlfriend” as a fungible object, together with “car” and “house”
> as things to mechanically import into one's life, is somehow not
> objectifying women.
> But, while those rationalisations may satisfy you, I'm not interested in
> hearing them. If you don't see that the joke objectifies women, that
> tells me quite a lot about how blinkered you are to the problem.
> For what it's worth, I'm very familiar with such rationalisations,
> having employed them many times myself. Fortunately there are women who
> will speak up against it and encourage men to do the same
> > Since you can't or won't persuade me (and anyone else reading) that
> > this sort of joke is harmful, does that mean that you will stop
> > claiming that it is harmful?
> I have no idea what it would take to persuade you in particular. I do
> know that the combined privileges of being white, male, not-poor, and
> English-fluent (and many more privileges, I'm sure) grant both of us the
> luxury of barely even perceiving the harm done by a pervasive atmosphere
> of even low-level prejudice against any given group of people.
> Women (to return to the people in question), on the other hand, do not
> have that luxury. In this community they have no option but to be aware
> of the privileges we males have here.
> We have very effective cognitive blinders, merely because we have never
> needed to know what it's like being a woman in this prevalently-male
> field. The onus is on us to try hard to see, despite those blinders and
> easy rationalisations, that there is a lot we allow from our fellows
> which is perpetuating a hostile environment.
> I'm not making a fuss about one sexist joke, which has already been
> retracted by its author. I'm making a fuss about allowing and, worse,
> defending such jokes as a tacitly-accepted norm of our community. And I
> hope those of us who prefer to think of ourselves as not-sexist will act
> to clean up our house more.
Your points are all valid, except, not valid in this particular
argument. import girlfriend is not sexist, no more than import car is
selfish, and import house is greedy. I think the joke is on the poor
guy who needs this module. He is a poor soul with nothing, who needs
to import everything.
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