Stream programming
Kiuhnm
kiuhnm03.4t.yahoo.it
Fri Mar 23 16:44:27 EDT 2012
On 3/23/2012 20:23, Nathan Rice wrote:
>>>> I will use "<=>" to mean "is equivalent to". That's not part of the DSL.
>>>> A flow has one or more streams:
>>>> 1 stream:
>>>> [1,2,3]
>>>> 2 streams:
>>>> [1,3,5] | [2,4,6]
>>>> Two flows can be concatenated:
>>>> [1,2,3] + [4,5,6]<=> [1,2,3,4,5,6]
>>>> [0] + ([1,2] | [3,4]) + [10]<=> [0,1,2,10] | [0,3,4,10]
>>>> ([1,2] | [10,20]) + ([3,4] | [30,40])<=> [1,2,3,4] | [10,20,30,40]
>>>
>>>
>>> Algebraically, your concatenation rules don't really make sense - your
>>> flows are both distributive and non distributive. You also make the
>>> implicit assumption of an order over streams in a flow, but disregard
>>> the implications of that assumption in some cases. I understand what
>>> you're trying to communicate, so I think you need to be a little more
>>> strict and explicit in your definitions.
>>>
>> When concatenating, either there are the same number of streams, or one
>> of them is a single stream which is duplicated.
>>
>> Therefore, in this example:
>>
>> [0] + ([1, 2] | [3, 4])
>>
>> you're concatenating a single stream with a pair, so the single stream
>> is duplicated:
>>
>> ([0] | [0]) + ([1, 2] | [3, 4])
>>
>> and then they can be concatenated:
>>
>> ([0, 1, 2] | [0, 3, 4])
>>
>> However, this:
>>
>> ([0, 1] | [2, 3]) + ([4, 5] | [6, 7] | [8, 9])
>>
>> won't work.
>
> I understand how he wants the system to work in this case; my point
> was that it isn't consistent.
>
> He stated flows can be concatenated, so [0] is just a flow of a single
> stream. Because he clearly intends that streams in a flow are
> ordered, that indicates that he wants some sort of algebraic module.
> He could get close if he can extend a stream to meet the requirements
> of a ring, then a flow would be a module over the ring of streams.
> The problem he is going to run into is that operations on streams as
> he defines them are not commutative. Identity elements for the two
> binary operations are also not immediately obvious to me.
Instead of talking of what I wasn't trying to do and, indeed, I didn't
do, you should try to understand what I wanted to do and, in fact, I did.
I'm afraid your cup is too full to understand simple things as the one I
wrote in my OP.
Kiuhnm
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