Simple Question regarding running .py program

rurpy at rurpy at
Wed Nov 14 08:02:36 CET 2012

On 11/13/2012 11:02 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:08 PM, rurpy wrote:
>> On 11/13/2012 09:10 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> * Use a news-to-web gateway such as Google Groups. That
>>> specific one is deprecated on this list, as there's more
>>> noise than signal from Google Groups.
>> Caroline, Chris is mistaken about this, if for no other
>> reason than there is no authority here empowered to decide
>> to deprecate anything.  What Chris should have said is
>> that there are some people on this list who don't like
>> Google Groups for whatever reason and encourage others
>> to ignore posts from Google Groups.
>> How successful this boycott effort is is not clear.
> To be more accurate: This is deprecated *by members of* this list. As
> there is no commanding/controlling entity here, it's up to each
> individual to make a decision - for instance, abusive users get
> killfiled rather than banned. The use of Google Groups to post is
> deprecated in the original sense of the word: strongly disapproved of.

s/deprecated *by members of*/deprecated *by some members of*/

(and accuracy could probably be increased further by replacing
"some" with "a few".)

And again,

s/strongly disapproved of/strongly disapproved of by some/

I was objecting to your attempts to make it sound like a 
fact that GG posts were nearly universally condemned here, 
an error you repeat again above.

> My own opinion on the matter is that if it takes as much effort as you
> describe to use GG properly, it's wasting your time on a massive
> scale. Surely it's easier to read and post email?

"that much effort"?  Do you consider a couple of copy-
pastes to be "that much effort"?  "wasting your time 
on a massive scale"?  Sheesh, get a grip man, let's not
get silly.

On the other hand finding and configuring a newsreader 
for someone whose never done it before, as you recommend, 
is a major time consumer.  And signing up for python-list 
email, posting, dealing with several days' volume, and 
then signing off because one does not want to read it 
full time[*], is no picnic either compared to using GG.

Sorry, but there are *good* reasons for some people
to use GG whether you want to admit it or not.

[*] Actually, now that I think about it, IIRC one can sign
up for python-list email, and go into the mailman settings
and disable mail delivery, allowing one to post to the list 
via email yet read the list via GG, Gmane or whatever.
However, this is not going to be obvious to many occasional
posters, and is still a PITA compared to just posting from 
GG as our hypothetical user does for all the other groups 
he/she participates in.

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