flaming vs accuracy [was Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3]
steve+comp.lang.python at pearwood.info
Thu Mar 28 06:20:19 CET 2013
On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:49:20 -0700, rusi wrote:
> On Mar 28, 8:18 am, Ethan Furman <et... at stoneleaf.us> wrote:
>> So long as Mark doesn't start cussing and swearing I'm not going to get
>> worked up about it. I find jmf's posts for more aggravating.
> I support Ned's original gentle reminder -- Please be civil irrespective
> of surrounding nonsensical behavior.
> In particular "You are a liar" is as bad as "You are an idiot" The same
> statement can be made non-abusively thus: "... is not true because ..."
I accept that criticism, even if I disagree with it. Does that make
sense? I mean it in the sense that I accept that your opinion differs
Politeness does not always trump honesty, and stating that somebody's
statement "is not true because..." is not the same as stating that they
are deliberately telling lies (rather than merely being mistaken or
The world is full of people who deliberately and in complete awareness of
what they are doing lie in order to further their agenda, or for profit,
or to feel good about themselves, or to harm others. There comes a time
where politely ignoring the elephant in the room (the dirty, rotten,
lying scoundrel of an elephant) and giving them the benefit of the doubt
simply makes life worse for everyone except the liars.
We all know this. Unless you've been living in a cave on the top of some
mountain, we all know people whose relationship to the truth is, shall we
say, rather bendy. And yet we collectively muddy the water and inject
uncertainty into debate by politely going along with their lies, or at
least treating them with dignity that they don't deserve, by treating
them as at worst a matter of honest misunderstanding or even mere
difference of opinion.
As an Australian, I am constitutionally required to call a spade a bloody
shovel at least twice a week, so I have no regrets.
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