Managing Google Groups headaches

Walter Hurry walterhurry at
Thu Nov 28 20:40:13 CET 2013

On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 11:00:22 -0800, rusi wrote:

> On Friday, November 29, 2013 12:07:29 AM UTC+5:30, rusi wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 28, 2013 11:59:13 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie
>> wrote:
>> > On 11/28/2013 10:23 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
>> > > Funny, I thought the sentiment of many here was, "let's just keep
>> > > this as a newsgroup, why do we need the mailing list also?" but
>> > > I'll admit to being confused about what people have been proposing
>> > > for alternate topologies.
>> >
>> > That may well be the majority sentiment here.  I only state my
>> > opinion.
>> >
>> > Seems like 90% of the problems on this list come from the unchecked
>> > usenet side of things.  Such as trolls or spam.  For example a
>> > certain iron-skulled person who posted his whining rants and threats
>> > from half a dozen different addresses to the annoyance of all. 
>> > Despite many calls to banish him from the list for his blatant
>> > disregard for list etiquette, with usenet it's just not possible. 
>> > Although I'm sure some would argue that's a good thing to be unable
>> > to kick offenders off the list.
>> Do you realize that that person was not using GG?
>> IOW we are unfortunately conflating two completely unrelated things:
>> 1. GG has some technical problems which are fairly easy to solve 2. All
>> kinds of people hop onto the list. In addition to genuine ones there
>> are
>>    spammers, trolls, dicks, nuts, philosophers, help-vampires etc etc.
> To add to that:
> 1. In this thread itself there is a quadruple-post 2. In an adjacent
> thread there is the mess due to html mail 3. Sometime ago there was a
> long argument around the old and unsettled:
>    Reply vs Reply-all debate
> All these are due to NON use of GG.
> Does that mean everyone should use GG?
> Heck no!
> Just this: Technology will occasionally have problems and these can
> usually be solved technically.

All true, but the fact remains that the vast majority of GG posters can't 
be bothered to do the necessary, or are too stupid, or simply don't care.

You are the exception which proves the rule. I'm with Chris Angelico on 
this one.

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