JUST GOT HACKED
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Wed Oct 2 12:41:45 EDT 2013
On 10/01/2013 08:24 AM, Daniel Stojanov wrote:
> On 02/10/2013 12:05 AM, "Νίκος" <nikos.gr33k at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for visting my website: you help me increase my google page
>> rank without actually utilizing SEO.
>>
>> -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>
> 1) You need links, not page views to improve your Google rank.
>
> 2) I just signed up the this mailing list. To the regulars, is this
> what normally happens on this list?
Recently, it seems to have become normal.
> 3) I'm a bit late to the party. Is Nikos a real sysadmin or is this
> some horrible inside joke I don't get?
Nikos is running a website he wrote in Python and seems to
be learning as he goes. He offends a number of people here
by refusing to take "advice" such as hire someone, spend a
few years learning python, system administration, webserver
administration, and the like given without the slightest
knowledge of Nikos' circumstances. He also repeatedly re-
asks questions when he doesn't understand or like the answers
received, seems to prefer to find answers to questions by
asking here rather than researching himself (tho it is not
clear how much being a non-native English speaker plays into
that.) He is also willing to respond in kind to hostile remarks
addressed to him, and does not display proper deference to
the regulars here in other way too.
All of the above irritates a number of people here, who, being
rather like Nikos themselves in their complete disregard for
the signal-to-noise ratio or atmosphere of the group, find in
him a good excuse to vent their own frustrations by responding
with more patently useless "advice", insults, ridicule, threats
and other vitriolic noise. They rationalize this as applying
social pressure blithely ignoring that it's shown no signs of
working.
In other words, many of Nikos' threads degenerate into a plain
old-fashioned flame war. Probably the vast majority of readers
do their best to simply ignore the trash posts but there is
small (but large enough) group of regulars who enjoy participating
in such flame wars to degrade the quality of the group far more
than would be the case if they were able to follow the time-tested
advice of "don't feed the trolls".
While Stephen D'Aprano is often enough an abrasive poster in his
own right, his comments on the current situation are the most
sensible I've seen in this disscussion:
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-October/656691.html
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-October/656716.html
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