Newline in bash, was Re: IDLE being too clever checking nonlocal declarations?
Peter Otten
__peter__ at web.de
Tue Oct 22 03:20:15 EDT 2013
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 23:26:28 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
>
>> On 10/21/2013 7:52 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:51:56 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/21/2013 11:06 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>>>> Try typing this into IDLE:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> def a():
>>>>> def b():
>>>>> nonlocal q
>>>>> SyntaxError: no binding for nonlocal 'q' found
>>>>
>>>> If you submit those three lines to Python from the command line, that
>>>> is what you see.
>>>
>>> Arguably, that's also too strict,
>>
>> As I quoted from the doc, it is an error for a program to contain a
>> nonlocal with no referent. The reason is one only needs nonlocal to bind
>> and unlike with 'global newname', it would be undefined where to do the
>> binding.
>
> Yep, I got that, but what I'm saying is that it is too strict to raise
> the exception at the point where it sees "nonlocal q". The CPython
> interpreter allows q to be defined inside function a but after function
> b, e.g. this is allowed:
>
> def a():
> def b():
> nonlocal q
> q += 1
> q = 2 # <=======
>
>
> If IDLE and the code.py module requires q to be strictly defined before
> function b, then it is too strict. Your analysis of the bug as being in
> code.py seems plausible.
>
>
>
>>> [steve at ando ~]$ python3.3 -c "def a():
>>>> def b():
>>>> nonlocal q
>>>> q = 1
>>>> "
>>
>> What system lets you do that? (See other thread about Windows not
>> allowing that, because newline terminates the command even after ".) Is
>> '>' a line continuation marker (like '...' in Python)?
>
> Yes, sorry I should have said. That's bash, under Linux.
>
> Here's another way:
>
>
> steve at runes:~$ python3.3 -c "def a():^M def b():^M nonlocal q^M
> q=1^Mprint(a() is None)"
> True
>
>
> Still bash under Linux (a different machine), the ^M is *not* a pair of
> characters ^ followed by M but an actually newline, generated by typing
> Ctrl-V Enter (that's the ENTER key, not the letters E n t e r).
>
> In theory I should be able to get something working with \n escapes
> instead of ^M, but I can't get it working. But I'm not an expect at bash's
> arcane rules for quoting and escaping special characters.
I usually just hit Return...
$ python3.3 -c "def a():
> def b():
> nonlocal q
> q = 1
> print(a() is None)"
True
but you prompted me to google:
$ python3.3 -c $'def a():\n def b():\n nonlocal q\n q = 1\nprint(a() is None)'
True
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