mapping objects

Rita rmorgan466 at
Sun Feb 2 13:41:59 CET 2014

Thanks for the response Cameron. No amount of 'googling' could provide me
with that caliber response :-)

So, it seems regardless I would need a database.

On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:58 AM, Cameron Simpson <cs at> wrote:

> On 01Feb2014 20:46, Rita <rmorgan466 at> wrote:
> > I want to learn more about ORMs so I stumbled upon, SqlAlchemy.
> >
> > If i had a JSON document (or XML, CSV, etc.._) is it possible to convert
> it
> > to a SQLAlchemy objects? I like the ability to query/filter (
> >
> )
> >  the
> > data assuming I set up the proper schema.
> Well, not as directly as you might hope. As I recall, SQLAlchemy
> ORMs provide an easy way to make objects representing database
> entities and whose methods automatically drive the necessary SQL
> actions to manipulate them.
> On that basis, you won't get anywhere without loading up the
> JSON/XML/etc, parsing it for relevant information (trivial with
> CSV, less so for structured data like JSON or XML), and storing it
> in a database. To which you then point SQLAlchemy.
> So you're already doing the fiddly bit just to get stuff into the database.
> The neat filter operations you cite are actually done by special
> methods on the objects representing tables and columns. For example,
> == None
> is done via the __eq__ method of "". And they return
> strings: bare SQL. The beauty of this is that one can write almost
> idiomatic python, and SQLA will generate correct SQL in the right
> dialect for the database backend, and with all the values correctly
> escaped.
> However, it does presume you _already_ have a backend that can be
> queried with SQL.
> > Also, is this a valid way to use an ORM suite?
> Well, in principle sure. But SQLA won't do it for you directly. It really
> is for data already stored in an SQL queriable database.
> Your point about using SQLA's filter operations is right, _provided_
> you have already loaded the original data into a database with the
> right schema. If you've done that work, then SQLA may well serve
> you well from that point on.
> Cheers,
> --
> Cameron Simpson <cs at>
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