Top down Python
breamoreboy at yahoo.co.uk
Wed Feb 12 17:56:34 CET 2014
On 12/02/2014 16:40, John Allsup wrote:
> I've realised that the best way to do this is to use a web browser for
> the graphical front end: high end graphics are simply not a necessity
> here, so one does not need to leave the confines of the browser. Thus
> we need a simple server script.
> I'm still minimalist, so I guess we want xmlrpc and a python server,
> This now seems way simpler than trying to play with Gtk or Qt.
> Basically the lesson is to use a web browser engine as a graphics engine
> unless you have performance issues. Hopefully in future html rendering
> engines will not be so strongly coupled to browsers, or even to the html
> format itself, but will be a general purpose user graphics engine (an
> ncurses for bitmapped displays).
> Can anybody suggest the quickest way to learn the bits of xmlrpc (in
> python) that I need to do this. Once it's working, I'll stick a source
> code download on my website. There will be only one version released:
> the one that works properly. Thus there is no need to github this.
> All the best,
> def my_sig():
> On 12/02/2014 07:05, John Allsup wrote:
>> What is needed for proper learning is near-absolute simplicity.
>> Even one toy too many to play with is an intolerable distraction,
>> but one too few massively hampers learning and induces boredom.
>> I want to be able to say:
>> 1. Put a nice picture on the background.
>> 2. Put a terminal window with, say, 64x20 lines, dead centre.
>> 3. Run a simple REPL program written in Python or Ruby within it.
>> I do not really want to write any more lines of code than I need to.
>> Why do we not have langauges and libraries that can do the above
>> with only five lines of code (line 0 == setup, line 4 == cleanup).
>> Programming should be that efficient if we learn to make things
>> beautiful and not tolerate wastes of lines and characters, on
>> a global scale as well as locally to our projects.
>> #!/usr/bin/env python3
>> from myappfw import app
>> from myapp1 import repl
>> app.background = "Moutains1"
>> t = app.terminal.open(title="Typing commands One Oh
>> What Python would I need to write, as concise but readable as
>> practically possible, so that the above program works as desired (for
>> any repl that obeys the basic input-process-output behaviour of a repl)?
>> This is top-down design done right IMO (as described in Thinking Forth,
>> by the way).
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