Python 3 is killing Python

Mark Lawrence breamoreboy at
Fri Jul 18 09:34:14 CEST 2014

On 18/07/2014 03:24, Rick Johnson wrote:
> On Thursday, July 17, 2014 1:44:20 PM UTC-5, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Rick Johnson :
>>> Sure, IDLE is not *useless*, however, it is in fact
>>> woefully inadequate and should be embarrassing to the
>>> whole community, both in it's buggy-ness and it's poorly
>>> written source code.
>> This is beneath trolling. Redeem yourself by apologizing.
> Apologize for what?
> For telling the truth?
> I have been using IDLE since around 2006, well at least,
> that is as far back as i remember. When i first learned
> Python, IDLE was my editor of choice, and i *STILL* use IDLE
> to this very day! -- although not as much as i have written
> my own IDE.
> I have logged thousands upon thousands of hours with IDLE,
> how many hours have *YOU* logged?
> I would even venture to say, and the comments on this list
> have supported my evidence for years, that i may be the
> *SOLE* heavy user of IDLE in the *ENTIRE* community.
> Although, i need to compare my stats with Terry because he
> claims to use the software quite often also.
> If *ANYBODY* in this damn community has a *RIGHT* to
> complain about IDLE, then *I* am that person. HOW DARE YOU
> chastise me for voicing my grievances regarding a
> software that *YOU* most likely have *NEVER*, or only
> *SLIGHTLY*, used!

Please list for everybody to see the issue numbers that you've worked 
on, on IDLE, on the bug tracker.  Thank you.

I now routinely use IDLE as it has been so much improved due to the 
efforts of Terry & Co.  You are conspicious by your absence.

My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask 
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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