I don't read docs and don't know how to use Google. What does the print function do?

Clayton Kirkwood crk at godblessthe.us
Wed Nov 12 06:39:43 CET 2014



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>bounces+crk=godblessthe.us at python.org] On Behalf Of Chris Angelico
>Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:36 AM
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>Subject: Re: I don't read docs and don't know how to use Google. What
>does the print function do?
>
>On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Clayton Kirkwood <crk at godblessthe.us>
>wrote:
>> Uh, how are you going to maintain a programming job if you don't know
>> how to program? I don't want to act but I know Brad Pitt makes lots of
>> money doing it, so I want to be Brad Pitt. Not! Not going to happen.
>> Although I suspect for a price you could bring all of your
>> professional programming jobs to somebody here, but I think you would
>pay out more than you would make.
>>
>
>I'm not entirely sure how it works, but it does happen. I've been
>writing code for over two decades, and trying to earn a living at it for
>one and a bit, and in all that time, I have *never even once* found a
>job by applying in the classic way and sending in a resume.
>There are blog posts out there about how large proportions of applicants
>can't even write simple code on command... and I've taken the questions
>and shown them to my siblings (who protest that they're definitely not
>programmers), proving that a basic smattering of mathematical nous puts
>you above people who are trying to earn money from coding.
>
>It's like a carpenter, looking for a skilled assistant, and getting
>people who don't know which end of a saw to hold.
>
>It's like a prospective accountant not knowing the words "credit" and
>"debit".
>
>It's like someone trying to rule a country just on the basis of looking
>good on television... okay, so maybe there's one other "industry" where
>the incompetent have a shot at it.
>
>But fortunately, it's not everyone. There are the "bad eggs" who waste
>everyone's time, but there are plenty of truly competent people too.
>It's just a matter of figuring out which are the "will-be-competent"
>and which are the "totally lazy and not going anywhere", and there's not
>always a lot to distinguish them by.
>
>ChrisA

Chris, you're kidding, right? People get programming jobs without the
knowledge? How do they keep them? Don't hiring people look at code examples,
or previous employment? Ask relevant questions? My wife works for the county
district attorney's office, and she tells me a lot about the incompetence of
her co-workers and how they just kind of don't do their job, the petty
personalities. My daughter works for AAA and tells how little co-workers
know and are not willing to learn anything, but expect raises, etc. It's
really hard for me to believe. I've worked in professional environs like
Intel and Lockheed. You didn't keep a job long if you screwed around, and
except for one person, everyone worked hard and earned their living,
learning as much as they could, and generally got along. Some were great
work groups that were incredibly rewarding and enjoyable. I have trouble
believing the work ethics and behavior my family tells me about. Totally
foreign to me.

Clayton
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