Is Django the way to go for a newbie?
Dwight at GoldWinde.com
Mon Aug 10 03:22:03 CEST 2015
Wowsuch a generous response. Thank you, Laura!
Based upon your feedback, I did some additional investigation and decided
to go with Django. One of the reasons is that it¹s got everything in the
package. For example, I won¹t have to go outside of Django for my database
needs. And, although my website will be simple to start, it will grow in
sophistication over the years.
Thank you, again!
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On 8/9/15, 2:23 PM, "Laura Creighton" <lac at openend.se> wrote:
>There are lots of Web Frameworks.
>lists some of them.
>I wouldn't place too much faith in the classification of some as
>'Popular' and others as 'Regarded as Less Popular' -- I keep getting
>the itch to put a wikipedia style footnote (by whom) -- in my corner of
>the world Zope 2 and Pylons are very popular, and Pyramid which is the
>successor to Pylons is rather more popular than either. All 3 of them
>are more popular around here than web2py (which is also popular, just
>not at much) and I don't know anybody who is using Turbogears at all.
>(Pyramid is listed under the 'non full stack frameworks' but if I had
>been making the list it would be under full stack; maybe the list
>got made when Pyramid was more incomplete.)
>The most important consideration when choosing a web framework is
>whether you have somebody local who can help you, in person, with
>the thing. If you have such a person, and they prefer a certain
>Framework, go for that one.
>Otherwise there really isn't a thing to do but build a small example
>and see how you like it. Because they actually play quite differently.
>They are designed by people to make things most convenient for the way
>they like to work, to expose the complexity that they want control over
>and hide the stuff they don't. This means, for instance that the very
>things that web2py lovers like the best about their framework is
>precisely what the people who dislike web2py hate about it -- and
>the same is true for Django, and all down the list. Remember that
>the people who love Django (for instance) are all quite happy to
>write blog posts about their happiness, while the people who find
>writing Django code most unpleasant don't tend to talk about it.
>They just find something they like better, and use it.
>You will be happiest with the one that fits your brain best, but alas
>it is hard to know what that will be before you try it. But there is
>one major split you probably know about yourself when figuring out
>what to try first. If you are the sort of person who takes great
>comfort from the knowledge that 'all the batteries are included' and
>that you will never _outgrow_ your framework, should you need to do
>some new thing with it, the components will already be there, then you
>will prefer a full stack framework. The disadvantage in using a
>comprehensive framework like that is that you will have much less
>flexibility in how you do things -- you will have to do Django things
>the Django way, and web2py things the web2py way, etc. And things
>will be much more complicated. But if you are naturally inclined
>towards comprehensive solutions, start playing with the Full Stack
>Frameworks. If you throw up your hands and say 'this is all too
>complicated!' you can then try something simpler.
>If, on the other hand, your natural inclination is to dislike
>solutions because you always want to go after the _simplest_ thing that
>can work, then you should start playing with Micro frameworks. And
>if you throw up your hands saying 'But this thing barely has support
>for anything! I don't want to have to write my own <this>, <that>,
>and <some other thing>' then you can try something more comprehensive.
>Sorry not to be more helpful, but this is very much one of the cases
>where 'it depends' and it very much 'depends on you'.
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