An object is an instance (or not)?
steve+comp.lang.python at pearwood.info
Wed Jan 28 10:28:14 CET 2015
Mario Figueiredo wrote:
> In article <mailman.18191.1422400930.18130.python-list at python.org>,
> ned at nedbatchelder.com says...
>> A common mistake is to believe that "OOP" is a well-defined term. It's
>> not it's a collection of ideas that are expressed slightly differently
>> in each language.
> A common mistake is thinking just because OOP has different
> implementations, it doesn't have a cohesive set of well described rules
> and its own well defined terminology.
Alas, this is not a mistake. As I posted in a reply to Ben, OOP does not
have a cohesive set of rules and well-defined terminology.
>> I don't know what a "not fully realized object" is.
> A fully realized object, in an object oriented paradigm, is an object
> containing or pointing to data and the methods to act on that data. It's
> an instance of a class.
In Python, classes meet that definition too. A class in Python is a value
which can contain data (or point to data), and it has methods which act on
that data. Classes in Python themselves have a class, which we call the
metaclass, and classes inherit behaviour from their class just as integer
instances inherit behaviour from their class, int.
> A *not* fully realized object is possible in Python, since Classes are
> first-class objects, despite not being able to participate in OOP.
>> What does "participate in OOP" mean?
> Means the object is capable of participating in inheritance and/or
> polymorphism. An instance of an object is capable of doing so, per its
> class definitions. Whereas a Python class object is not.
Class objects are capable of participating in inheritance. A class can have
multiple metaclasses. They can even have multiple inheritance of
I'm not sure what relevance polymorphism has.
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