Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed?

Cecil Westerhof Cecil at
Mon Jul 20 01:23:31 CEST 2015

On Monday 20 Jul 2015 00:51 CEST, Mark Lawrence wrote:

> On 19/07/2015 23:10, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>> On Sunday 19 Jul 2015 22:28 CEST, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>> On 19/07/2015 21:05, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>>>> On Sunday 19 Jul 2015 21:01 CEST, Ian Kelly wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Cecil Westerhof <Cecil at> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday 19 Jul 2015 15:42 CEST, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>>>>>> On 19/07/2015 03:13, Terry Reedy wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/18/2015 7:50 PM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
>>>>>>>>> to 2.7, surely bug fixes are also allowed?
>>>>>>>> Of course, allowed. But should they be made, and if so, by
>>>>>>>> who?
>>>>>>> The people who want the fixes.
>>>>>> Babies want clean diapers. So babies have to change diapers
>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>> Poor analogy. Babies need others to change their diapers for
>>>>> them because they're not capable of doing it for themselves.
>>>> That is why I think it is good analogy. I think that most of the
>>>> users of 2.7 who would be delighted with fixes would have no idea
>>>> how to get those fixes into 2.7.
>>> They could try reading the development guide to start with, or is
>>> that also too much to ask?
>> My impression is that you and some other people are in an ivory
>> tower and find it very cosy.
>> It reminds me about the man on dry land who responded to the person
>> who fell in water and shouted
>> “Help, I cannot swim!”
>> with
>> “Why are you screaming?
>> I cannot swim also.
>> Do you hear me yelling about it?"
> You are now suggesting that people shouldn't even bother reading the
> develoment guide, just great. Do they have to do anything themselves
> to get patches through? Presumably the core devs give up their paid
> work, holidays, families, other hobbies and the like, just so some
> bunch of lazy, bone idle gits can get what they want, for nothing,
> when it suits them? It appears that babies aren't the only people
> who need their nappies changing around here.

No use replying anymore. You make a caricature of what I am saying and
put words in my mouth I never said. Just stay in your cosy ivory
tower. But please do not pretend that you are open for discussion,
because you are not.

Cecil Westerhof
Senior Software Engineer

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