Gmail eats Python

Jussi Piitulainen jpiitula at
Sun Jul 26 12:43:04 CEST 2015

Rustom Mody writes:
> On Sunday, July 26, 2015 at 2:06:00 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:

>> What would you like to achieve, exactly?
> Some attitude correction?

With all respect, take your own advice. And use an editor that works for

> That emacs starts its tutorial showing how to use C-p and C-n for what
> everyone uses arrows is bad enough.

It doesn't. Those keys come three screens down the tutorial (C-h t, line
70) and are introduced as follows:

   There are several ways you can do this.  You can use the arrow keys,
   but it's more efficient to keep your hands in the standard position
   and use the commands C-p, C-b, C-f, and C-n.  These characters are
   equivalent to the four arrow keys, like this:

> That the arrow-keys are later found to work quite alright is even
> worse and speaks of a ridiculous attitude

Notice what the tutorial actually says about the arrow keys? That it
actually says something about the arrow keys, and it says it before it
introduces the mnemonic bindings?

There was a time when the arrow keys were not found to work. Quite a
while ago, but older versions of the tutorial may still be around.

An Alt is still not always available as Meta: I notice it mainly works
in my current setup, but Alt-C-(left arrow) is interpreted by my desktop
manager. Yet M-C-b works, and M-C-(left arrow) works with Esc as Meta.
It's a *system*.

But, by all means, do use an editor that works for you, and a newsreader
that works for you. I only mentioned Gnus because it's what I prefer to
use and I've had this one issue with it that turned up in a thread about
formatting code for the newsgroup. (And Emacs came up because Gnus is
implemented in Emacs.)

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