Terminology: "reference" versus "pointer"
rustompmody at gmail.com
Sat Sep 12 19:26:38 CEST 2015
On Saturday, September 12, 2015 at 10:38:46 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 10:46 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 12, 2015 at 11:57:01 AM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote:
> >> You've clearly committed to some ontology that just doesn't match the
> >> Python data model.
> > How about lay-English ontology in which "point to" and "refer to" are
> > fairly synonymous?
> "Pointer" in English is also a synonym for
> - a type of dog;
> - an instrument which pierces (as used by engravers, lace workers, etc);
> - an item of private information;
> - a hint or tip;
> - a caution or warning;
> - a recommendation;
> - the index finger;
> - a cricketer fielding at a specific position;
> - the hour/minute/second hand on a timepiece;
> - a compass needle;
> - two specific stars in the constellation of the Great Bear (Ursa Major);
> - diagonal braces fastened across the hold of a ship;
> - the small icon whose movement across the screen follows that of the
> mouse, trackball or other pointing device;
> - a signpost or milepost;
> and more. I don't think that arguing on the basis of lay-English or plain
> English terms is going to be terribly useful.
So if someone's ontology disagrees with yours its not very useful.
You're welcome to that view of course
Its called "Humpty-Dumpty" (in Alice ontology).
We could have had a more 'useful' discussion if alongside the meanings of
"pointer" you had provided meanings of "reference" as well
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