Detect Linux Runlevel

Nathan Ernst nathan.ernst at gmail.com
Mon Dec 5 21:56:25 EST 2016


OT, but I'm curious, do they explain *why* it's wrong and give an
alternative, or just outright deride it as "the wrong way". I ask because
I've read similar complaints about the community around systemd, but as it
rarely affects me personally, I've never bothered to care.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:48 PM, Steve D'Aprano <steve+python at pearwood.info>
wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 11:08 am, Michael Torrie wrote about systemd:
>
> > I have yet to see any evidence of this Pyonguang situation.
>
> Let me guess... you're running a single-user Linux box?
>
> Fortunately, I've managed to avoid needing to personally interact with
> systemd at all. But over the last year or so, I've had to listen to a
> continual chorus of complaints from the sys admins I work with as they
> struggle to adapt our code to the Brave New World of systemd.
>
> Let me put it this way: one of our techs took it upon himself to migrate
> our
> Python code base from Python 2.6 to 3.4, some tens of thousands of lines.
> It took him half of one afternoon.
>
> In comparison, migrating to systemd has given us nothing but headaches, and
> invariably when we try asking for help on the main systemd IRC channel
> we're told that we're wrong for wanting to do what we want to do.
>
> Not just "systemd can't do that", but "you shouldn't do that".
>
> Why not? We used to do it, and it is necessary for our application.
>
> "Because its wrong."
>
>
>
>
> --
> Steve
> “Cheer up,” they said, “things could be worse.” So I cheered up, and sure
> enough, things got worse.
>
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