CLP stats: last 500 posts

Terry Reedy tjreedy at
Sat Dec 10 15:27:24 EST 2016

On 12/10/2016 9:43 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 09:28 pm, Terry Reedy wrote:
>>>> The spammer will still be counted,
>> Why reward someone who actively evades defenses?  If you want to count
>> spam, it is mostly missing, at least as far as python-list is concerned.
> Its not a reward. Spammers are not like trolls, they don't hang around to
> see the result of their posts.

To me, the relevant difference is between posts related to python and 
those not.  It is usually clear which is which.

 > There no evidence at all that this Italian
> spammer is looking for replies or responses to his(?) posts. He apparently
> just fires them out.
> I think that it is relevant that comp.lang.python receives X spam messages
> from a certain person. It gives a picture of the health of the newsgroup:
> how much of it is spam? Hopefully only a small amount.

Python-list gets unrelated-to-python spam from lots of people.  They are 
not outliers (unlike jmf's now blocked trolls), but contaminents from a 
different universe.

I agree that the fraction of messages that are clearly spam has some 
interest in itself, and definitely should be as small as possible. But I 
contend that they should be excluded from a study of the universe of 
python-related messages.

My other point is that this small sliver that used to get passed through 
is extremely biased and statistically worthless as a study of 
python-list spamming.  If one wanted to study the rate and nature of 
contamination, or the effectiveness of filtering, one would need access 
to the raw stream of submissions.

Terry Jan Reedy

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