python list index - an easy question
jussi.piitulainen at helsinki.fi
Mon Dec 19 09:06:40 EST 2016
Ben Bacarisse writes:
> BartC writes:
>> You need to take your C hat off, I think.
> It's a computing hat. Indexes are best seen as offsets (i.e. as a
> measured distances from some origin or base). It's a model that grew
> out of machine addressing and assembler address modes many, many
> decades ago -- long before C. C, being a low-level language,
> obviously borrowed it, but pretty much all the well-thought out
> high-level languages have seen the value in it too, though I'd be
> interested in hearing about counter examples.
Julia, at version 0.5 of the language, is a major counter-example:
1-based, closed ranges. I think they have been much influenced by the
mathematical practice in linear algebra, possibly through another
I think there's some work going on to allow other starting points, or at
least 0. Not sure about half-open ranges.
> The main issue -- of using a half open interval for a range -- is
> probably less widely agreed upon, though I think it should be. EWD is
> correct about this (as about so many things).
(I even use pen and paper, though I don't always remember what I wrote.)
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