Goto Considered Harmful [was Re: Python and the need for speed]

Marko Rauhamaa marko at
Fri Apr 14 16:10:52 EDT 2017

ram at (Stefan Ram):

> struct example
> { PIC<5,X<15>>             last_name; 
>   PIC<88,VALUE<1,3,5,7,9>> odd_numbers; }
>   . The above assumes appropriate definitions for »VALUE« (as a
>   variadic template) »PIC«, and »X«. Only a C++ expert would be able
>   to provide these definitions, but then they could be used by average
>   C++ programmers.

I don't like your expert/average dichotomy. Similar dichotomies plague
other frameworks: Eclipse, Jenkins, Maven, Xt, MS Word etc.

If templates are considered a good thing, creating them should be
considered routine for *all* C++ programmers.

>   . C++ has a very expressive user-definable type system including
>   user-definable literals.

I don't like said system. Analogously, I'm not too keen on formal
schemata. Even more generally, I'm not big on *rule languages*, which
are ad-hoc and incomplete. Instead, I prefer *programming languages*,
which are compact and expressive, or even plain English.

>   It should then also be possible to generate compile-time errors for
>   assignments such as
> example_instance.odd_numbers = 4;

Every programming language has its big selling points. C++'s gospel is
its utmost compile-time checking. I'm a long time user of C++, but I'm
not a convert to that ideology.

>   . I know too little about Python to tell whether something like this
>   would be possible with Python, too.

Unfortunately, Python is taking baby steps in that direction.


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