Bigotry and hate speech on the python mailing list

Rustom Mody rustompmody at
Mon Apr 17 08:41:03 EDT 2017

On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 3:09:44 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Rurpy :
> > If I posted a remark about "dirty Chinese" (c.f. "ugly American") I
> > would be (justifiably) slammed and likely ejected from the list. Or if
> > claims that not understanding new tech is a product of age are ok,
> > then why can't I say disparagingly that someone "programs like a
> > girl"? When a popular poster here says such things, it is not only
> > given a pass, it is actually defended!
> In my experience, the bar for banning participants is pretty high, and
> rightly so. Careless statements, insults or bigotry haven't been enough,
> but repeated, personal harassment of an individual have resulted in
> action.
> You are free to set a bar of your own. It's called plonking.
> BTW, as a middle-aged American, I don't get offended by slurs against
> Americans or old people. I first try to see if there's a grain of truth
> behind the generalization, and if not, I will simply have a lower
> opinion of the judgement of whoever said it.
> Cultures are real, distinct things, and every culture has
> (objectively/subjectively) less desirable aspects. Age does have
> measurable effects on our performance. Making generalizations doesn't
> automatically make a statement "hate speech."
> Let me offer a bigoted joke I heard the other day:
>    Wife to programmer: "Go to the store and get a gallon of milk. If
>    they have eggs, get six."
>    ...
>    Wife to programmer: "Why on earth did you buy six gallons of milk?"
>    Programmer: "They had eggs."

Thanks Marko... Hilarious [Sent it to some friends]
I personally feel racism (or in this case more technically communalism)
needs to be celebrated not disparaged

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