Bigotry and hate speech on the python mailing list

James McMahon jsmcmahon3 at gmail.com
Tue Apr 18 05:30:23 EDT 2017


Can the moderators please get involved here and remind people to address
python related topics and questions on the python mailing list? While I can
only speak to my interest when joining this list, isn't python why
most people joined this list? Others have different and polarizing views on
many subjects. This just isn't the right place to voice your views on
subjects other than python. I delete this same tired thread every day, and
every day it reappears. With all manners and due respect, stay on topic.

Isn't this list content moderated by anyone?

-Jim

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Ethan Furman <ethan at stoneleaf.us> wrote:

> On 04/17/2017 03:23 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
>
>> Paul Rubin writes:
>>
>>> Rurpy writes:
>>>
>>
> A couple weeks ago a frequent poster here (Steve D'Aprano)
>>>> called another participant an "ugly american"
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oh stop trolling.
>>>
>>
>> Paul, that is uncalled for. The charge of bigotry is not to be lightly
>> dismissed, and we do want to foster an environment here where people
>> will feel welcome.
>>
>
> You mean all the non-religious people?
>
> Because some of your signatures don't feel welcoming to people of faith:
>
>  \         “I think Western civilization is more enlightened precisely |
>   `\     because we have learned how to ignore our religious leaders.” |
> _o__)                                                —Bill Maher, 2003 |
>
>  \       “Science shows that belief in God is not only obsolete. It is |
>   `\                        also incoherent.” —Victor J. Stenger, 2001 |
> _o__)                                                                  |
>
>  \       ?Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day; give him a |
>   `\    religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish.? |
> _o__)                                                       ?Anonymous |
>
>  \           ?Prayer must never be answered: if it is, it ceases to be |
>   `\   prayer and becomes correspondence.? ?Oscar Wilde, _The Epigrams |
> _o__)                                            of Oscar Wilde_, 1952 |
>
> Steven, please try to be a little more attentive to people's delicate
>>> feefees in the future. Rurpy, should that take care of it?
>>>
>>
>> No, that doesn't do it. Taking care of people's feelings is an essential
>> part of keeping a community healthy and welcoming, and your belittling
>> does not help with that.
>>
>
> Neither do (a subset of) your signatures, yet you refuse to filter them
> out:
>
> [from previous email]
>
>> So I will continue to treat all those topics equally: peripheral
>> comments on beliefs are just part of respectful human discourse, so long
>> as I'm respectful of the people who may hold such beliefs.
>>
>
> So you're okay with respectfully making people of faith feel unwelcome?
>
> --
> ~Ethan~
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