Bigotry (you win, I give up)

Rustom Mody rustompmody at gmail.com
Sat Apr 22 07:17:41 EDT 2017


On Friday, April 21, 2017 at 2:38:08 PM UTC+5:30, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 20-04-17 om 17:25 schreef Rustom Mody:
> > But more importantly thank you for your polite and consistent pointing out to
> > Ben Finney that his religion-bashing signature lines [many of them] and his 
> > claims to wish this list be welcoming are way out of sync.
> 
> I don't know. I think a concept like welcoming is too complex, to draw such
> simple conclusions. First of all we have to make a choice about the public we
> want to be welcoming to. I'm rather confident we can agree we don't want to
> be welcoming to bigots on this list.
> 
> Then feeling welcome is not a boolean, people can feel welcome to a different
> degree and there are many factors at work. If people tend to react in a friendly
> manner to there co-participants, people generally should feel welcome. A statment
> in a signature that isn't addressing anyone personnaly may give rise to some
> irritation but shouldn't make this list feel unwelcome to someone.

Generally agree
[though I wonder how you will decide what constitutes a 'bigot'. Look at the
suggestion in the very subject of these threads]

> 
> Do you think critising any idea in one's signature is enough to conclude that
> this person doesn't wish this list to be welcoming?

Lets try a thought-experiment:
A: Islam is glorious
B: Religion is garbage
C: Christ is the best

Will these statements get equal treatment as spam/as censure etc if they appear
on this list?

Note that from certain pov, religion-bashing or atheism-lauding are as
much pushing some belief-system as pushing an (un)conventional religion

More to the point will an anti-semitic view be treated with equal
harshness to an anti-Islam/Palestine one?
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2017-April/720532.html

Overall, even though it may be a blunt weapon: Why not just keep out utterly
unrelated-to-python stuff?


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