Bigotry (you win, I give up)

Rustom Mody rustompmody at
Tue Apr 25 10:26:52 EDT 2017

On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 1:20:05 PM UTC+5:30, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 22-04-17 om 13:17 schreef Rustom Mody:
> > On Friday, April 21, 2017 at 2:38:08 PM UTC+5:30, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> >> Op 20-04-17 om 17:25 schreef Rustom Mody:
> >>> But more importantly thank you for your polite and consistent pointing out to
> >>> Ben Finney that his religion-bashing signature lines [many of them] and his 
> >>> claims to wish this list be welcoming are way out of sync.
> >> I don't know. I think a concept like welcoming is too complex, to draw such
> >> simple conclusions. First of all we have to make a choice about the public we
> >> want to be welcoming to. I'm rather confident we can agree we don't want to
> >> be welcoming to bigots on this list.
> >>
> >> ...
> > Generally agree
> > [though I wonder how you will decide what constitutes a 'bigot'. Look at the
> > suggestion in the very subject of these threads]
> Well that's a tough one off course since research seems to suggest we are all
> bigots to some degree. So if I see behaviour that looks biggoted, I tend to
> wait to see how the person reacts after others have pointed out the possible
> problematic nature of his behaviour.
> Of course there is the problem of how sensitive we should all be. Is it so
> problematic if I use an idiom like: "How could I have been so blind". Is
> such an idiom really a slight vs blind people?
> >> Do you think critising any idea in one's signature is enough to conclude that
> >> this person doesn't wish this list to be welcoming?
> > Lets try a thought-experiment:
> > A: Islam is glorious
> > B: Religion is garbage
> > C: Christ is the best
> >
> > Will these statements get equal treatment as spam/as censure etc if they appear
> > on this list?
> That doesn't seem to be fair, since only one is being critical.
> What about:
> D: Homeopathy/Astrology is bunk.

Astrology is bunk…

Or is it 'fake-news' ?

Maybe the idea that tides are controlled by the moon
and that people awake and sleep with the sun is also fake?

The influence of Jupiter, Saturn, etc is — for astrology-buffs at least — just a
refinement of the influence of the sun, moon

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