What's the neatest way of getting dictionary entries in a specified order?

Antoon Pardon antoon.pardon at rece.vub.ac.be
Thu Mar 9 08:58:25 EST 2017


Op 09-03-17 om 13:16 schreef Chris Angelico:
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Antoon Pardon
> <antoon.pardon at rece.vub.ac.be> wrote:
>> Op 09-03-17 om 12:32 schreef Chris Angelico:
>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 8:25 AM, Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote:
>>>> Yes, I'm well aware of these issues, but it's my personal address book
>>>> so I can avoid many/most of them.
>>> The justification "it's *my* personal address book" is saying "none of
>>> *my* friends have weird names, so I'm fine". So, yeah, he did.
>> No he didn't, you are reading conclusions into his words that aren't
>> there. An other possibility is that it is his personal address book,
>> so he is at liberty to handle those weird names as he sees fit. He
>> doesn't own anyone an explanation of how he organises his own personal
>> address book.
>>
> You're still assuming that there are such things as "weird names".

You are the one that started to use the word "weird". Please don't
draw conclusions about what I assume, just because I followed your
word choice.

> As
> of Python 3, we've finally moved beyond the notion that there are
> "weird characters" that don't fit into our nice tidy system where one
> character is the same as one byte. We need to give people's names the
> same courtesy. They are not "weird" names. They are 100% legitimate
> names that should be welcomed into any system that accepts names.
>
> (That said, though, I think it's not unreasonable to demand that names
> be represented entirely in Unicode - falsehood #11 - as it's extremely
> hard to deal with non-Unicode text. But you have to understand that
> you'll be asking some number of people to represent themselves
> differently for the convenience of your code.)

But you don't know whether he is using unicode or not. And if he is not,
it still is his own personal address book and he is allowed to transliterate
the names he enters any way he likes. If he has a French friend with the
name "Pièrre", he is allowed to enter it as "Pjair" in his personal address
book if he thinks that would help him to pronounce it more correctly.

So he is not asking a number of people to represent themselves differently
because this is not something for different people to use, it is his personal
address book.

-- 
Antoon Pardon.



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