How to install Python package from source on Windows
Deborah Swanson
python at deborahswanson.net
Tue May 30 13:46:28 EDT 2017
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deborah Swanson [mailto:python at deborahswanson.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:57 AM
> To: 'Paul Moore'
> Subject: RE: How to install Python package from source on Windows
>
>
> I'm sorry people on the list somehow got the idea I was
> asking for help with this. Originally I only asked how to
> build recordclass from source, and apparently I made the
> mistake of chiming in with my experiences with Anaconda3,
> Python 3.4.3, on XP SP2, when the conversation turned to
> Python's use of Visual C++ and Visual Studio in the
> installation of new builds. I thought you might find my
> experiences interesting, but at no point did I ask for help
> that I'm aware of. If I did somehow give that impression it
> was a miscommunication with no intentional asking for help.
>
> Any attempts to "fix" my setup only destabilize my system and
> make something worse. What I have works to run Python code in
> PyCharm, and until I get a Linux system up and running I have
> no intention of messing anymore with what I've got. And I
> certainly don't appreciate all the insinuations that I'm
> stupid or lazy. I'm simply caught in a precarious situation
> that I'm making the best of. 3.4.3 was the last Anaconda
> build of Python that would install on XP SP2 at all, and it
> came with no guarantees. I suspect it was my expertise with
> XP SP2 that I cajoled a successful installation out of it and
> it was tricky to get that to run in PyCharm.
>
> My strong suspicion is that the reason I'm actually seeing
> failed attempts to install Visual C++ and Visual Studio 2015
> while none of you others are seeing any use of Visual
> C++/Studio is because it shows up in my tracebacks when it
> fails. In an XP SP3 or later Windows these minor
> installations would succeed and the user would never know
> they occurred, or perhaps they aren't even needed on later
> versions of Windows. Unfortunately I didn't keep my
> tracebacks, having thought that they were no longer of any
> interest to the group at the time I had them, and I'm
> unwilling to destabilize my system and risk any further loss
> of functionality in any more attempts to reproduce them.
>
> Anaconda3 and XP SP2 do no get along well. I will be more
> than happy to run any experiments and recreations you please
> after I have Python 3.6 running well in Linux. But until then
> I need to go on surviving with what I've got.
>
> I hope I am being perfectly clear now. But I certainly wasn't
> willing to go up against an angry mob intent on "helping" me
> or satisfying their curiosity at my my expense (or whatever
> they wanted), when I neither wanted nor needed (nor was aware
> of any explicit request for) any help. It is what it is, and
> I'm progressing just fine with what I've got.
>
> Deborah
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Python-list
> > [mailto:python-list-bounces+python=deborahswanson.net at python.o
> > rg] On Behalf Of Paul Moore
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:43 AM
> > To: python-list at python.org
> > Subject: Re: How to install Python package from source on Windows
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, 25 May 2017 22:32:56 UTC+1, Deborah Swanson wrote:
> > > This is my last reply on this thread to anything to do with XP SP2
> > > (observations in XP SP3 do not apply) or Visual Studio.
> > I've answered
> > > all of the questions, some of them multiple times. Please
> > reread the
> > > thread if you have more questions.
> >
> > You have repeatedly stated "Python attempts to install Visual
> > Studio" but have never provided a log showing that, or any
> > evidence that we could use to help understand why this is happening.
> >
> > Everyone here has repeatedly pointed out that Python
> > shouldn't ever do what you're saying it does, and various
> > people have stated that they've tested and confirmed this is
> > the case. Sometimes they've used systems other than the
> > version of XP that you have, but that's not (as far as anyone
> > can tell) relevant. Nevertheless, you've dismissed these
> > demonstrations - often with claims of "XP Bashing" which I've
> > seen no evidence of in this thread.
> >
> > It seems to me that your Python installation has somehow
> > ended up being configured in a non-standard manner (I'm
> > bending over backwards here to avoid triggering a "you're
> > bashing XP" reaction here - the point is I'm not blaming
> > anyone or anything, merely stating that there is a
> > demonstrable difference in behaviour between your setup and
> > the standard build). In order to help you fix this, we need
> > more details, along the lines of:
> >
> > 1. Where did you get your version of Python (I believe you
> > mentioned Anaconda)? 2. Have any changes that you can recall
> > been made to it? 3. What precisely do you type that triggers
> > Python to try to install Visual Studio? 4. What precisely is
> > shown on the screen (by Python or anything else that might
> > display diagnostic output that would help)?
> >
> > It's certainly possible that you've described some or all of
> > this information in the thread here. But it's a long thread,
> > and to help those of us trying to assist, who don't really
> > have time to read everything in the (long, and pretty
> > argumentative) thread, it would be very much appreciated if
> > you could summarise all in one consolidated reply.
> >
> > Or you could just assume that we're not interested in helping
> > you and/or we have some sort of axe to grind about your system :-(
> >
> > Paul
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> >
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