Filtering computer.lang.python

Mark Lawrence breamoreboy at gmail.com
Wed Apr 11 15:07:47 EDT 2018


On 10/04/18 21:06, C W Rose via Python-list wrote:
> Thomas Jollans <tjol at tjol.eu> wrote:
>>
>> Welcome to python-list/comp.lang.python!
>>
>> This isn't originally a Google group. Google just mirrors the old USENET
>> group, which is awash with spam.
>>
>> There is also a mailing list version of this group (posts are mirrored
>> both ways) at https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>>
>> The mailing list has proper spam filtering and some moderation. None (or
>> barely any) of the regulars use Google Groups. Some people use USENET
>> directly and maintain their own extensive filtering regime to make it
>> readable. Probably most of us use the mailing list, because it's just so
>> much nicer!
>>
>> -- Thomas
> 
> I fetch comp.lang.python from eternal.september with leafnode, and after
> 30 years of Usenet I recently had to install a news filter to remove the
> garbage.  After the initial flurry the filter doesn't need much updating,
> but here's why it's necessary:
> 
>      Feb  1 comp.lang.python: 39 articles fetched 73 killed
>      Feb  2 comp.lang.python: 43 articles fetched 57 killed
>      Feb  3 comp.lang.python: 19 articles fetched 108 killed
>      Feb  4 comp.lang.python: 36 articles fetched 122 killed
>      Feb  5 comp.lang.python: 45 articles fetched 79 killed
>      Feb  6 comp.lang.python: 68 articles fetched 93 killed
>      Feb  7 comp.lang.python: 32 articles fetched 118 killed
>      Feb  8 comp.lang.python: 41 articles fetched 100 killed
>      Feb  9 comp.lang.python: 47 articles fetched 201 killed
>      Feb 10 comp.lang.python: 44 articles fetched 137 killed
>      Feb 11 comp.lang.python: 36 articles fetched 130 killed
>      Feb 12 comp.lang.python: 13 articles fetched 79 killed
>      Feb 13 comp.lang.python: 18 articles fetched 65 killed
>      Feb 14 comp.lang.python: 34 articles fetched 72 killed
>      Feb 15 comp.lang.python: 15 articles fetched 63 killed
>      Feb 16 comp.lang.python: 14 articles fetched 72 killed
>      Feb 17 comp.lang.python: 50 articles fetched 62 killed
>      Feb 18 comp.lang.python: 37 articles fetched 35 killed
>      Feb 19 comp.lang.python: 58 articles fetched 57 killed
>      Feb 20 comp.lang.python: 71 articles fetched 46 killed
>      Feb 21 comp.lang.python: 63 articles fetched 95 killed
>      Feb 22 comp.lang.python: 35 articles fetched 91 killed
>      Feb 23 comp.lang.python: 38 articles fetched 91 killed
>      Feb 25 comp.lang.python: 51 articles fetched 153 killed
>      Feb 26 comp.lang.python: 70 articles fetched 89 killed
>      Feb 27 comp.lang.python: 64 articles fetched 68 killed
>      Mar  1 comp.lang.python: 98 articles fetched 133 killed
>      Mar  2 comp.lang.python: 65 articles fetched 110 killed
>      Mar  3 comp.lang.python: 38 articles fetched 113 killed
>      Mar  4 comp.lang.python: 31 articles fetched 16 killed
>      Mar  5 comp.lang.python: 51 articles fetched 104 killed
>      Mar  6 comp.lang.python: 46 articles fetched 40 killed
>      Mar  7 comp.lang.python: 18 articles fetched 71 killed
>      Mar  8 comp.lang.python: 44 articles fetched 85 killed
>      Mar  9 comp.lang.python: 43 articles fetched 65 killed
>      Mar 10 comp.lang.python: 16 articles fetched 39 killed
>      Mar 11 comp.lang.python: 25 articles fetched 59 killed
>      Mar 13 comp.lang.python: 43 articles fetched 186 killed
>      Mar 14 comp.lang.python: 20 articles fetched 76 killed
>      Mar 15 comp.lang.python: 32 articles fetched 33 killed
>      Mar 16 comp.lang.python: 16 articles fetched 79 killed
>      Mar 17 comp.lang.python: 11 articles fetched 69 killed
>      Mar 18 comp.lang.python: 4  articles fetched 70 killed
>      Mar 19 comp.lang.python: 10 articles fetched 67 killed
>      Mar 20 comp.lang.python: 42 articles fetched 33 killed
>      Mar 21 comp.lang.python: 43 articles fetched 77 killed
>      Mar 22 comp.lang.python: 14 articles fetched 35 killed
>      Mar 23 comp.lang.python: 37 articles fetched 39 killed
>      Mar 26 comp.lang.python: 139 articles fetched 144 killed
>      Mar 27 comp.lang.python: 83 articles fetched 86 killed
>      Mar 28 comp.lang.python: 39 articles fetched 45 killed
>      Mar 29 comp.lang.python: 12 articles fetched 29 killed
>      Mar 31 comp.lang.python: 67 articles fetched 125 killed
> 
> for totals of 2168 fetched and 4384 killed; that is, the group
> is now 2/3 spam and the volume doesn't seem to be decreasing.
> I don't understand why other groups gatewayed to Google Groups
> aren't spammed, but from a limited sample they don't seem to be.
> 
> Will
> 

I have recently given up killing all the crap directly on gg as I can't 
be bothered any more.  That is I would go onto gg and directly mark all 
the spam as spam.  Is this coincidence?

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence



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