pathlib
DL Neil
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Wed Oct 2 18:27:47 EDT 2019
On 3/10/19 3:07 AM, Rhodri James wrote:
> On 02/10/2019 09:14, DL Neil via Python-list wrote:
>> That said, it is one of the ways that a path can be shown to
>> transition from some 'pure' state to become 'concrete'.
>>
>> However, A.N.Other has suggested that I might be mis-applying the word
>> "concrete", so maybe not. On which topic, I went looking for a decent
>> technical definition of the word, but instead of coming-out smiling,
>> I've been left somewhat stony-faced (hah, hah!).
>>
>> A definition/description would be useful. Any pointers?
>
> I think we're looking at a philosophical split, so I'd look in that
> direction rather than for technical terminology.
>
> My rough and ready definition *in this instance* relies on observing
> that we are supposed to contrast "pure" and "concrete" and going from
> there.
>
> The overriding thing for me is that paths are names. Just names. They
> have a particular syntax, but that's all. This is obviously true for
> pure paths, which are clearly abstractions.
> PurePath("/home/rhodri/foo.txt") cannot refer to a real file because it
> has no mechanisms for relating to reality. It can only be a name, and
> all the PurePath class gives us is convenient mechanisms for
> manipulating that name within its syntactic rules.
>
> Concrete paths are not pure paths. Literally, in logic terms. Pure
> paths cannot refer to real file, concrete paths can refer to real files.
> They don't necessarily do so otherwise we have a massive excluded
> middle. Path("/home/rhodri/foo.txt") may or may not actually exist on
> any computer. It may refer to a file, and by the end of this sentence
> it may refer to a different file to what it was at the start. The only
> sensible interpretation I can see is that it is still a name, just one
> that may transiently be related to a real object.
>
> Concrete may not be the best term for this, but I can't think of a
> better one.
Nor I, but had assumed (having seen it before) that it was a
generally-accepted term in OOP that I have yet to learn. Was slightly
surprised not to find it in any of the/my usual tech.dictionaries.
Obviously, my assumptions/expectations of its meaning were inaccurate or
incomplete, but I appreciate your efforts to straighten-out it (and me)!
--
Regards =dn
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