New Python implementation

[Mr Flibble]

On 11/02/2021 18:06, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 5:01 AM Mr Flibble
> <flibble at i42.removethisbit.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/02/2021 16:31, Dan Stromberg wrote:
>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 4:35 AM Mr Flibble <flibble at i42.removethisbit.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> I am starting work on creating a new Python implementation from scratch
>>>> using "neos" my universal compiler that can compile any programming
>>>> language.  I envision this implementation to be significantly faster than
>>>> the currently extant Python implementations (which isn't a stretch given
>>>> how poorly they perform).
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'd like to encourage you to give this a go.  It's a huge task, but it's
>>> needed.
>>
>> Actually it is a relatively small task due to the neos universal compiler's architectural design.  If it was a large task I wouldn't be doing it.
>>
>>>
>>> You may be interested in the approaches of Pypy, Cython, Shedskin and
>>> Nuitka.
>>
>> I am not particularly interested in any of the existing implementations as they bear no relation to the design of my language agnostic universal compiler, runtime, VM and JIT; the only use they will have will be to disambiguate certain Python language constructs that I cannot disambiguate from documentation alone: this is a natural consequence of Python not being standardized; those steering the language need to grow a pair and get Python standardized preferably as an ISO Standard.
>>
> 
> You keep insulting Python and the Python devs. Put up or shut up -
> show some actual code before you make too many boasts.
> 
> Python DOES have a strong language specification. Its semantics are
> documented. If you find places where the documentation is lacking,
> point them out specifically, don't FUD your way through.

For a language to transition from "toy" status it has to be formally standardized.  It is unacceptable to define a language in terms of a particular implementation. A git repo of Source code and associated observable dynamic behaviour when that code is compiled and ran is a poor substitute for an official ISO Standard.

/Flibble

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