OT: ~gohlke [Was: Installation hell]
Mike Dewhirst
miked at dewhirst.com.au
Mon Dec 19 20:28:25 EST 2022
On 20/12/2022 9:28 am, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> On 12/19/22 14:47, Eryk Sun wrote:
>
>> If you search a bit deeper, you'll find a site with unofficial Windows
>> builds of many packages, including pygame for Python 3.11:
>>
>> https://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#pygame
> Semi-OT: that's been a superb resource, but apparently it's no longer
> maintained - internet scuttlebutt suggests the project which let it
> exist has lost funding. The link above is a mirror, marked
> "Archived", and I can't see there's been any addition since July 1.
> (sadly... I happen to need an lxml build for experimenting with 3.12
> alphas, and that's an absolute bear to build for WIndows - I've never
> cracked it)
That is dreadful news! Windows as a dev platform is dead without it.
That is serious.
Back on topic - Installation hell
I use Windows for historic reasons related to needing to support 99% of
my customers/dependents who also use it. I'm the only one who also uses
Linux - but only non-GUI Linux.
Windows works for me as a dev platform because there are so many
talented Python people out there who make it work. It would be
impossible otherwise. I would be forced to to learn two GUIs if I had to
develop on Linux.
I'm here to tell you that dev and production on different OSs works
without a hitch! For me.
Whoever wrote the installation docs for Windows did a great job. All the
bases and options are covered. Absolutely no-one could complain that any
pertinent detail has been omitted.
Some marketing research is indicated. The OP who started this thread
could define themself in exquisite detail so that installation
infrastructure including documentation can be developed to suit that
market exemplar.
I think there are several separate markets. Eg., for someone like me ...
locked into Windows (but not Microsoft otherwise) and needing to target
Linux web servers. That would allow a branching of the installation docs
to home in, say, on virtual envs and multiple Python installations in
the root of drive C: (well away from "Program files") and so on.
If the OP says they are an educated computer scientist they could become
a hero and write up a tightly focused set of docs (extracted from the
comprehensive canonical docs) which assume their particular "market",
for want of a better term.
The PSF might recognise the effort and be able to promote such a high
interest from Windows Python devs into funding for Chris Gohlke.
Cheers
Mike
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