for -- else: what was the motivation?

[Peter J. Holzer]

On 2022-10-22 15:04:58 +0200, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> On 2022-10-19 12:10:52 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 at 12:01, Peter J. Holzer <hjp-python at hjp.at> wrote:
> > > On 2022-10-17 09:25:00 +0200, Karsten Hilbert wrote:
> > > > http://literateprogramming.com/
> > >
> > > Right. That's one of the inspirations for my comment.
> > >
> > > But literate programming is of course still very much rooted in the
> > > "linear text representation" paradigm. You have one definite source
> > > which is a linear text.
> > >
> > > In a world of IDEs, databases and hypertext that's probably not the best
> > > we can do. As Raymond Hettinger would say, "there must be a better way".
> > >
> > > It would be very different from mainstream programming languages,
> > > however. And ideally you would want it to integrate with a lot of other
> > > infrastructure. So that alone might make it a non-starter, even if it
> > > was really good (which realistically early iterations wouldn't be).
> > 
> > There are special-purpose languages like Scratch which are not simple
> > text in that form.
> 
> Yes, I know.
> 
> It has a different goal though: Scratch tries to establish a friendly
> learning environment. Get rid of typing and syntax errors that beginners
> find so frustrating.
> 
> What I'm interested in is an enviroment for developing medium-sized real
> applications.

Late addendum: Watch

["Stop Writing Dead Programs" by Jack Rusher (Strange Loop 2022)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ab3ArE8W3s)

for an overview of some ideas about programming environments.

        hp


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