From spaans at fox-it.com Thu Mar 14 11:37:38 2013 From: spaans at fox-it.com (Jasper Spaans) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:37:38 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] PUN meetup 18 april Message-ID: <5141A872.8010702@fox-it.com> Hoi PUNners, Bij deze wil ik jullie uitnodigen voor een PUN meetup op donderdagavond 18 april, ditmaal in Delft bij Fox-IT. Voorlopig staan er nog geen praatjes op het programma, dus wees snel en reserveer je slot. Net als de voorgaande keren is het programma 2x30 minuten, en dan maximaal 6 lightning talks erbij. Binnenkort meer details! Groet, Jasper -- /\____/\ ir. Jasper Spaans // Lead Developer DetACT \ (_)/ Fox-IT - For a more secure society! \ X T: +31-15-2847999 \ / \ M: +31-6-41588725 \/ KvK Haaglanden 27301624 From wichert at wiggy.net Mon Mar 18 11:50:04 2013 From: wichert at wiggy.net (Wichert Akkerman) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:50:04 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] PUN meetup 18 april In-Reply-To: <5141A872.8010702@fox-it.com> References: <5141A872.8010702@fox-it.com> Message-ID: <84E282D0-A55E-49AC-B823-5327910DD9E3@wiggy.net> On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:37 , Jasper Spaans wrote: > Hoi PUNners, > > Bij deze wil ik jullie uitnodigen voor een PUN meetup op donderdagavond > 18 april, ditmaal in Delft bij Fox-IT. Had je nog een tijdstip in gedachten? :) From remco.wendt at gmail.com Mon Mar 18 23:31:27 2013 From: remco.wendt at gmail.com (Remco Wendt) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:31:27 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] Nog even via deze weg Message-ID: Deze donderdag is de Python Web Meetup: http://www.meetup.com/dutch-django-assocation/events/106581492, weest allen welkom. We zoeken nog lightning talkerts. Groet, Remco -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From remco.wendt at gmail.com Wed Mar 20 15:43:08 2013 From: remco.wendt at gmail.com (Remco Wendt) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:43:08 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] Meetup location changed Message-ID: Hi All, Unfortunately the ABC Treehouse was double booked, both the ALV and the Python Web Meetup will be held at the office of TravelBird tomorrow: http://goo.gl/maps/lF7rW. TravelBird will also sponsor snacks and drinks. 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URL: From motoom at xs4all.nl Thu Mar 21 10:35:52 2013 From: motoom at xs4all.nl (Michiel Overtoom) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:35:52 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] Meetup location changed In-Reply-To: <08330D83-7AE9-4529-BBE6-76951CE4495A@gmail.com> References: <08330D83-7AE9-4529-BBE6-76951CE4495A@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mar 21, 2013, at 10:34, Pepijn de Vos wrote: > What is the ALV? Couldn't find anything about it. Meestal staat ALV voor 'Algemene Leden Vergadering'. Groets, > > Pepijn > > On Mar 20, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Remco Wendt wrote: > >> Hi All, >> Unfortunately the ABC Treehouse was double booked, both the ALV and the Python Web Meetup will be held at the office of TravelBird tomorrow: http://goo.gl/maps/lF7rW. TravelBird will also sponsor snacks and drinks. >> Sorry for the inconvenience, >> Remco >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-nl mailing list >> Python-nl at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl -- Van biologisch eten wordt beweerd dat het gezonder zou zijn, beter voor het milleu, en een maatschappelijk verantwoorde keuze. Maar klopt dat wel? http://www.skeptische-artikelen.nl/fabels-over-biologisch-eten Een kritische kijk op populaire fenomenen: http://www.skeptische-artikelen.nl/ From eromijn at solidlinks.nl Thu Mar 21 10:48:45 2013 From: eromijn at solidlinks.nl (Erik Romijn) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:48:45 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] Meetup location changed In-Reply-To: <08330D83-7AE9-4529-BBE6-76951CE4495A@gmail.com> References: <08330D83-7AE9-4529-BBE6-76951CE4495A@gmail.com> Message-ID: It's the general meeting (algemene ledenvergadering) of the Dutch Django Association. To attend this part of the evening you need to be a member of the Dutch Django Assocation. If you want you can become a member just before the general meeting starts. Membership fee is ? 10 per year. cheers, Erik On Mar 21, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Pepijn de Vos wrote: > What is the ALV? Couldn't find anything about it. > > Pepijn > > On Mar 20, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Remco Wendt wrote: > >> Hi All, >> Unfortunately the ABC Treehouse was double booked, both the ALV and the Python Web Meetup will be held at the office of TravelBird tomorrow: http://goo.gl/maps/lF7rW. TravelBird will also sponsor snacks and drinks. >> Sorry for the inconvenience, >> Remco >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-nl mailing list >> Python-nl at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl From remco.wendt at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 11:51:29 2013 From: remco.wendt at gmail.com (Remco Wendt) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:51:29 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] Meetup location changed In-Reply-To: References: <08330D83-7AE9-4529-BBE6-76951CE4495A@gmail.com> Message-ID: What erik says :-) On Mar 21, 2013 10:55 AM, "Erik Romijn" wrote: > It's the general meeting (algemene ledenvergadering) of the Dutch Django > Association. To attend this part of the evening you need to be a member of > the Dutch Django Assocation. If you want you can become a member just > before the general meeting starts. Membership fee is ? 10 per year. > > cheers, > Erik > > On Mar 21, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Pepijn de Vos wrote: > > > What is the ALV? Couldn't find anything about it. > > > > Pepijn > > > > On Mar 20, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Remco Wendt wrote: > > > >> Hi All, > >> Unfortunately the ABC Treehouse was double booked, both the ALV and the > Python Web Meetup will be held at the office of TravelBird tomorrow: > http://goo.gl/maps/lF7rW. TravelBird will also sponsor snacks and drinks. > >> Sorry for the inconvenience, > >> Remco > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Python-nl mailing list > >> Python-nl at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Python-nl mailing list > > Python-nl at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdboor at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 14:52:59 2013 From: vdboor at gmail.com (Diederik van der Boor) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 14:52:59 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] Nog even via deze weg In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hoi Remco, Ben je nog op zoek naar een lightning talk? Ik ben een aantal voorstellen op de meetup pagina gezet, en kan over 1 van deze onderwerpen wel iets zeggen! Groetjes, Diederik Op 18 mrt. 2013, om 23:31 heeft Remco Wendt het volgende geschreven: > Deze donderdag is de Python Web Meetup: http://www.meetup.com/dutch-django-assocation/events/106581492, weest allen welkom. We zoeken nog lightning talkerts. > > Groet, > Remco > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From remco.wendt at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 15:10:03 2013 From: remco.wendt at gmail.com (Remco Wendt) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 15:10:03 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] Nog even via deze weg In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Die open sourcing klinkt top On Mar 21, 2013 3:07 PM, "Diederik van der Boor" wrote: > Hoi Remco, > > Ben je nog op zoek naar een lightning talk? > Ik ben een aantal voorstellen op de meetup pagina gezet, > en kan over 1 van deze onderwerpen wel iets zeggen! > > Groetjes, > Diederik > > > Op 18 mrt. 2013, om 23:31 heeft Remco Wendt het > volgende geschreven: > > Deze donderdag is de Python Web Meetup: > http://www.meetup.com/dutch-django-assocation/events/106581492, weest > allen welkom. We zoeken nog lightning talkerts. > > Groet, > Remco > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdboor at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 15:18:43 2013 From: vdboor at gmail.com (Diederik van der Boor) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 15:18:43 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] Nog even via deze weg In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <5A634639-1526-499D-889F-54BB2D7D7ED1@gmail.com> Ok, top! goed om te horen, ga ik die uitwerken voor vanavond! :) Ik neem aan dat je nog een slot overhad? Op 21 mrt. 2013, om 15:10 heeft Remco Wendt het volgende geschreven: > Die open sourcing klinkt top > > On Mar 21, 2013 3:07 PM, "Diederik van der Boor" wrote: > Hoi Remco, > > Ben je nog op zoek naar een lightning talk? > Ik ben een aantal voorstellen op de meetup pagina gezet, > en kan over 1 van deze onderwerpen wel iets zeggen! > > Groetjes, > Diederik > > > Op 18 mrt. 2013, om 23:31 heeft Remco Wendt het volgende geschreven: > >> Deze donderdag is de Python Web Meetup: http://www.meetup.com/dutch-django-assocation/events/106581492, weest allen welkom. We zoeken nog lightning talkerts. >> >> Groet, >> Remco >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-nl mailing list >> Python-nl at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From remco.wendt at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 15:27:37 2013 From: remco.wendt at gmail.com (Remco Wendt) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 15:27:37 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] Nog even via deze weg In-Reply-To: <5A634639-1526-499D-889F-54BB2D7D7ED1@gmail.com> References:

<5A634639-1526-499D-889F-54BB2D7D7ED1@gmail.com> Message-ID: Nee dat niet ;-) er is er in iedergeval een voor jou On Mar 21, 2013 3:19 PM, "Diederik van der Boor" wrote: > Ok, top! goed om te horen, ga ik die uitwerken voor vanavond! :) > Ik neem aan dat je nog een slot overhad? > > Op 21 mrt. 2013, om 15:10 heeft Remco Wendt het > volgende geschreven: > > Die open sourcing klinkt top > On Mar 21, 2013 3:07 PM, "Diederik van der Boor" wrote: > >> Hoi Remco, >> >> Ben je nog op zoek naar een lightning talk? >> Ik ben een aantal voorstellen op de meetup pagina gezet, >> en kan over 1 van deze onderwerpen wel iets zeggen! >> >> Groetjes, >> Diederik >> >> >> Op 18 mrt. 2013, om 23:31 heeft Remco Wendt het >> volgende geschreven: >> >> Deze donderdag is de Python Web Meetup: >> http://www.meetup.com/dutch-django-assocation/events/106581492, weest >> allen welkom. We zoeken nog lightning talkerts. >> >> Groet, >> Remco >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-nl mailing list >> Python-nl at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-nl mailing list >> Python-nl at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl >> >> _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pepijndevos at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 16:14:30 2013 From: pepijndevos at gmail.com (Pepijn de Vos) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:14:30 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] Meetup location changed In-Reply-To: References: <08330D83-7AE9-4529-BBE6-76951CE4495A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <91771C92-7C60-4627-8E40-2E7C3881EE57@gmail.com> In confused. http://www.meetup.com/dutch-django-assocation/events/106581492/ So there is a meeting for members and a non-member one? I'm not a member, so should I come at 19:30? Pepijn On Mar 21, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Remco Wendt wrote: > What erik says :-) > > On Mar 21, 2013 10:55 AM, "Erik Romijn" wrote: > It's the general meeting (algemene ledenvergadering) of the Dutch Django Association. To attend this part of the evening you need to be a member of the Dutch Django Assocation. If you want you can become a member just before the general meeting starts. Membership fee is ? 10 per year. > > cheers, > Erik > > On Mar 21, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Pepijn de Vos wrote: > > > What is the ALV? Couldn't find anything about it. > > > > Pepijn > > > > On Mar 20, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Remco Wendt wrote: > > > >> Hi All, > >> Unfortunately the ABC Treehouse was double booked, both the ALV and the Python Web Meetup will be held at the office of TravelBird tomorrow: http://goo.gl/maps/lF7rW. TravelBird will also sponsor snacks and drinks. > >> Sorry for the inconvenience, > >> Remco > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Python-nl mailing list > >> Python-nl at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Python-nl mailing list > > Python-nl at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl ------------- volgend deel ------------ Een HTML-bijlage is gescrubt... URL: From remco.wendt at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 16:17:22 2013 From: remco.wendt at gmail.com (Remco Wendt) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:17:22 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] Meetup location changed In-Reply-To: <91771C92-7C60-4627-8E40-2E7C3881EE57@gmail.com> References: <08330D83-7AE9-4529-BBE6-76951CE4495A@gmail.com> <91771C92-7C60-4627-8E40-2E7C3881EE57@gmail.com> Message-ID: We need to have a general meeting once a year for the Django Association, that happens at 18:30 (so people won't have to come to a separate meetup, but can combine the two). If you want to join this general meeting you need to be a member of the Dutch Django Association. Then at 19:30 there is the regular Python Web Meetup. On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Pepijn de Vos wrote: > In confused. > > http://www.meetup.com/dutch-django-assocation/events/106581492/ > > So there is a meeting for members and a non-member one? > > I'm not a member, so should I come at 19:30? > > Pepijn > > On Mar 21, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Remco Wendt wrote: > > What erik says :-) > On Mar 21, 2013 10:55 AM, "Erik Romijn" wrote: > >> It's the general meeting (algemene ledenvergadering) of the Dutch Django >> Association. To attend this part of the evening you need to be a member of >> the Dutch Django Assocation. If you want you can become a member just >> before the general meeting starts. Membership fee is ? 10 per year. >> >> cheers, >> Erik >> >> On Mar 21, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Pepijn de Vos >> wrote: >> >> > What is the ALV? Couldn't find anything about it. >> > >> > Pepijn >> > >> > On Mar 20, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Remco Wendt wrote: >> > >> >> Hi All, >> >> Unfortunately the ABC Treehouse was double booked, both the ALV and >> the Python Web Meetup will be held at the office of TravelBird tomorrow: >> http://goo.gl/maps/lF7rW. 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Maurits van Rees Zest Software http://zestsoftware.nl/over/vacatures From stommepoes at stommepoes.nl Fri Mar 22 20:32:13 2013 From: stommepoes at stommepoes.nl (Mallory van Achterberg) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:32:13 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] Summary Python Web Meetup 21 March In-Reply-To: <73AFECE8-A57B-405B-A0DC-47DC2BD04B24@vanrees.org> References: <73AFECE8-A57B-405B-A0DC-47DC2BD04B24@vanrees.org> Message-ID: <20130322193213.GA27437@mail.jobva.nl> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:13:00PM +0100, Maurits van Rees wrote: > Hi, > > Here is my summary of the talks from the Python Web Meetup at the Travelbird office in Amsterdam yesterday: > http://maurits.vanrees.org/weblog/archive/2013/03/pun > > Thank you, organizers and presenters! Hoi, er is n "m" in je url over malcolm gr Mallory From maurits at vanrees.org Fri Mar 22 22:06:44 2013 From: maurits at vanrees.org (Maurits van Rees) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 22:06:44 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] Summary Python Web Meetup 21 March In-Reply-To: <20130322193213.GA27437@mail.jobva.nl> References: <73AFECE8-A57B-405B-A0DC-47DC2BD04B24@vanrees.org> <20130322193213.GA27437@mail.jobva.nl> Message-ID: <514CC7E4.70800@vanrees.org> Op 22-03-13 20:32, Mallory van Achterberg schreef: > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:13:00PM +0100, Maurits van Rees wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Here is my summary of the talks from the Python Web Meetup at the Travelbird office in Amsterdam yesterday: >> http://maurits.vanrees.org/weblog/archive/2013/03/pun >> >> Thank you, organizers and presenters! > Hoi, > er is n "m" in je url over malcolm > gr > Mallory Oeps. Gefixt. Dank je. -- Maurits van Rees: http://maurits.vanrees.org/ From vdboor at gmail.com Mon Mar 25 14:04:45 2013 From: vdboor at gmail.com (Diederik van der Boor) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 14:04:45 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] Summary Python Web Meetup 21 March In-Reply-To: <73AFECE8-A57B-405B-A0DC-47DC2BD04B24@vanrees.org> References: <73AFECE8-A57B-405B-A0DC-47DC2BD04B24@vanrees.org> Message-ID: <234E193D-8D85-40A9-8F32-92E00C69A401@gmail.com> Hoi, 1 correctie: Ik heb aangegeven dat de GPL ongepast is voor Python/Django modules, dus die juist niet gebruiken ;-) Het kan wel, maar daarmee scheid je je project af van andere Python community modules. Zie ook: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhuF0oalOi8 ps.. kun je Disqus onder je blog plaatsen? Dat gaat erg makkelijk :) Op 22 mrt. 2013, om 12:13 heeft Maurits van Rees het volgende geschreven: > Hi, > > Here is my summary of the talks from the Python Web Meetup at the Travelbird office in Amsterdam yesterday: > http://maurits.vanrees.org/weblog/archive/2013/03/pun > > Thank you, organizers and presenters! > > Maurits van Rees > Zest Software > http://zestsoftware.nl/over/vacatures > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl From wichert at wiggy.net Mon Mar 25 14:39:12 2013 From: wichert at wiggy.net (Wichert Akkerman) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 14:39:12 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] Summary Python Web Meetup 21 March In-Reply-To: <234E193D-8D85-40A9-8F32-92E00C69A401@gmail.com> References: <73AFECE8-A57B-405B-A0DC-47DC2BD04B24@vanrees.org> <234E193D-8D85-40A9-8F32-92E00C69A401@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mar 25, 2013, at 14:04 , Diederik van der Boor wrote: > Hoi, > > 1 correctie: > Ik heb aangegeven dat de GPL ongepast is voor Python/Django modules, dus die juist niet gebruiken ;-) > Het kan wel, maar daarmee scheid je je project af van andere Python community modules. Dat klinkt een beetje kort door de bocht. Er zijn grote Python projecten zoals Plone die vrijwel geheel de GPL-licentie hebben. En Plone heeft een grote actieve community die daar geen enkel probleem mee heeft. Wichert. From maurits at vanrees.org Mon Mar 25 15:32:30 2013 From: maurits at vanrees.org (Maurits van Rees) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 15:32:30 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] Summary Python Web Meetup 21 March In-Reply-To: <234E193D-8D85-40A9-8F32-92E00C69A401@gmail.com> References: <73AFECE8-A57B-405B-A0DC-47DC2BD04B24@vanrees.org> <234E193D-8D85-40A9-8F32-92E00C69A401@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ah, bedankt voor de aanvulling, zo had ik hem niet begrepen. Je tien punten gingen sowieso iets te snel voor mij als notulist, want ik kwam er maar acht tegen. :-) Ik heb het aangepast. Ik vind de GPL zelf prima. Meestal ben ik praktisch en kies ik wat het meest gebruikelijk is in de software stack die ik gebruik. Een Plone add-on wordt dan al gauw GPL, voor algemener spul zou ik eerder BSD kiezen. Over Disqus: ik kijk wel uit, straks krijg ik een license flamewar op mijn blog. ;-) Ja, ik wil wel een keer commentaar op mijn website toelaten, als de spam onder controle blijft, wat met disqus dacht ik wel lukt. Met mijn huidige snelheid van het bijwerken van de code van mijn website verwacht ik dat dit over vijf jaar kan. :-) Tot dan werkt het contactformulier ook. Maurits Op 25 mrt. 2013, om 14:04 heeft Diederik van der Boor het volgende geschreven: > Hoi, > > 1 correctie: > Ik heb aangegeven dat de GPL ongepast is voor Python/Django modules, dus die juist niet gebruiken ;-) > Het kan wel, maar daarmee scheid je je project af van andere Python community modules. > Zie ook: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhuF0oalOi8 > > ps.. kun je Disqus onder je blog plaatsen? Dat gaat erg makkelijk :) > > Op 22 mrt. 2013, om 12:13 heeft Maurits van Rees het volgende geschreven: > >> Hi, >> >> Here is my summary of the talks from the Python Web Meetup at the Travelbird office in Amsterdam yesterday: >> http://maurits.vanrees.org/weblog/archive/2013/03/pun >> >> Thank you, organizers and presenters! >> >> Maurits van Rees >> Zest Software >> http://zestsoftware.nl/over/vacatures >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-nl mailing list >> Python-nl at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl From berco.beute at paylogic.com Mon Mar 25 16:46:26 2013 From: berco.beute at paylogic.com (Berco Beute) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 16:46:26 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] PyGrunn: May 10th 2013 (tickets, speakers, RFP) Message-ID: Hi all, I am proud to announce another episode of the legendary PyGrunn conference! This year's edition will take place on May 10th at Forum Images in Groningen. *About* PyGrunn is the 'Python and friends' conference with a local footprint and global mindset. Firmly rooted in the open source culture it aims to provide the leading lights in advanced internet technologies a platform to inform, inspire and impress their peers. But the most important part is of course hanging out with peers. PyGrunn has a non-commercial character and tickets are just 25 euro, which is only for covering the costs of food, drinks and an already legendary t-shirt. Days chock-full of pyhon/geek/hacker fun don't come much cheaper than that! Still in doubt? Ask someone who visited a previous edition. Confirmed keynote speakers for this year are Armin Ronacher (flask, jinja, werkzeug), Kenneth Reitz (Requests) and Holger Krekel (pypy, py.test). *Tickets* Tickets are already on sale at the PyGrunn site. There are only 200 tickets available and they will be sold out for sure, so don't hesitate. The 25 euro should not hold you back. *RFP* There are still a few open slots in the schedule, so we made a Request for Proposals (RFP) where you can submit your ideas for a talk or a poster/paper. We reserved some space (walls) for paper/poster presentations as well. You can use the same RFP for that. The submission deadline is April 15th. We are especially interested in talks about one of the themes this year ('python & big data' and 'python in science and education'). The rule of thumb for talks is that they should inform, inspire and impress a technical audience. In TED-like spirit the audience should be blown away in half an hour after which discussions can continue in the time between talks. Not all talks have to be about Python since it's the 'python and friends conference', we always use a few slots for talks about related 'hot' technologies. *Sponsors* Since PyGrunn has a non-commercial character it depends on the sponsors. As always Paylogic will cover a lot of the costs, and we are joined this year by Voys and Goldmund, Wyldebeast & Wunderliebe , but we would love to see more sponsors supporting the PyGrunn community. Spread the word and I hope to see you all at PyGrunn 2013! Cheers, Berco Beute CTO Paylogic PS: And yes, Paylogic is still actively lookingfor 4 python software engineers, a DevOp, a System Administrator and a Quality Assurance Engineer. :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alper at hubbub.eu Tue Mar 26 20:39:14 2013 From: alper at hubbub.eu (=?UTF-8?B?QWxwZXIgw4d1Z3Vu?=) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:39:14 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] teaching more people to program Message-ID: Hi all, I want to organize something to help more people in the Amsterdam area / Netherlands to learn how to program. You might have seen this important initiative: http://www.code.org/ I occasionally give some programming lessons to absolute beginners already and I was thinking of organizing an event in Amsterdam but it's too big to do by myself (and I spend most of my time in Berlin now). I am involved with Hack de Overheid and we would definitely support it and we're already thinking of ways to push this into schools. There are tons of material and immaterial benefits to teaching more people how to program. Here in Berlin I help out with Open Tech School ( http://www.opentechschool.org/ ) which is a lot of fun and reaches quite some people. They're an open (source) organization which means, we could fork it to Amsterdam. I'd like to hear if you're interested in something like that or what your thoughts are. If there's enough interest, I think we could kick something off. Best, Alper -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am involved > with Hack de Overheid and we would definitely support it and we're already > thinking of ways to push this into schools. There are tons of material and > immaterial benefits to teaching more people how to program. > > Here in Berlin I help out with Open Tech School ( > http://www.opentechschool.org/ ) which is a lot of fun and reaches quite > some people. They're an open (source) organization which means, we could > fork it to Amsterdam. > > I'd like to hear if you're interested in something like that or what your > thoughts are. If there's enough interest, I think we could kick something > off. > > Best, > Alper > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jo?l On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Alper ?ugun wrote: > > Hi all, > > I want to organize something to help more people in the Amsterdam area / Netherlands to learn how to program. You might have seen this important initiative: http://www.code.org/ > > I occasionally give some programming lessons to absolute beginners already and I was thinking of organizing an event in Amsterdam but it's too big to do by myself (and I spend most of my time in Berlin now). I am involved with Hack de Overheid and we would definitely support it and we're already thinking of ways to push this into schools. There are tons of material and immaterial benefits to teaching more people how to program. > > Here in Berlin I help out with Open Tech School ( http://www.opentechschool.org/ ) which is a lot of fun and reaches quite some people. They're an open (source) organization which means, we could fork it to Amsterdam. > > I'd like to hear if you're interested in something like that or what your thoughts are. 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Message-ID: <7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD079@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> Hi all, I would like to help as well. Exept I'm living in the South of Holland , near Eindhoven. Regards, Alex Van: Python-nl [mailto:python-nl-bounces+wial=roceindhoven.nl at python.org] Namens Jo?l Cox Verzonden: woensdag 27 maart 2013 7:19 Aan: Dutch Python developers and users Onderwerp: Re: [python-nl] teaching more people to program Hi, I've been thinking about this as well. Definitely interested in helping out. Jo?l On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Alper ?ugun > wrote: Hi all, I want to organize something to help more people in the Amsterdam area / Netherlands to learn how to program. You might have seen this important initiative: http://www.code.org/ I occasionally give some programming lessons to absolute beginners already and I was thinking of organizing an event in Amsterdam but it's too big to do by myself (and I spend most of my time in Berlin now). I am involved with Hack de Overheid and we would definitely support it and we're already thinking of ways to push this into schools. There are tons of material and immaterial benefits to teaching more people how to program. Here in Berlin I help out with Open Tech School ( http://www.opentechschool.org/ ) which is a lot of fun and reaches quite some people. They're an open (source) organization which means, we could fork it to Amsterdam. I'd like to hear if you're interested in something like that or what your thoughts are. If there's enough interest, I think we could kick something off. Best, Alper _______________________________________________ Python-nl mailing list Python-nl at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pepijndevos at gmail.com Wed Mar 27 09:51:19 2013 From: pepijndevos at gmail.com (pepijn de vos) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 09:51:19 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] teaching more people to program In-Reply-To: <7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD079@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> References:

<7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD079@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> Message-ID: Yay, teaching programming is fun. It seems there are enough people interested in helping out. Now, how to find people to teach? Pepijn On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Winkel, Alex van < a.vanwinkel at summacollege.nl> wrote: > Hi all,**** > > ** ** > > I would like to help as well. Exept I?m living in the South of Holland , > near Eindhoven.**** > > ** ** > > Regards,**** > > ** ** > > Alex**** > > ** ** > > *Van:* Python-nl [mailto:python-nl-bounces+wial=roceindhoven.nl at python.org] > *Namens *Jo?l Cox > *Verzonden:* woensdag 27 maart 2013 7:19 > *Aan:* Dutch Python developers and users > *Onderwerp:* Re: [python-nl] teaching more people to program**** > > ** ** > > Hi,**** > > ** ** > > I've been thinking about this as well. Definitely interested in helping > out.**** > > ** ** > > Jo?l**** > > ** ** > > On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Alper ?ugun wrote:**** > > > > **** > > ** ** > > Hi all,**** > > ** ** > > I want to organize something to help more people in the Amsterdam area / > Netherlands to learn how to program. You might have seen this important > initiative: http://www.code.org/**** > > ** ** > > I occasionally give some programming lessons to absolute beginners already > and I was thinking of organizing an event in Amsterdam but it's too big to > do by myself (and I spend most of my time in Berlin now). I am involved > with Hack de Overheid and we would definitely support it and we're already > thinking of ways to push this into schools. There are tons of material and > immaterial benefits to teaching more people how to program.**** > > ** ** > > Here in Berlin I help out with Open Tech School ( > http://www.opentechschool.org/ ) which is a lot of fun and reaches quite > some people. They're an open (source) organization which means, we could > fork it to Amsterdam.**** > > ** ** > > I'd like to hear if you're interested in something like that or what your > thoughts are. If there's enough interest, I think we could kick something > off.**** > > ** ** > > Best,**** > > Alper**** > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > ------------- volgend deel ------------ Een HTML-bijlage is gescrubt... URL: From a.esselink at gmail.com Wed Mar 27 10:20:16 2013 From: a.esselink at gmail.com (Dexter) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 09:20:16 +0000 Subject: [python-nl] teaching more people to program In-Reply-To: References:

<7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD079@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> Message-ID: Sorry, couldnt resist, I'd say you cant live in the south of holland, near eindhoven. holland only exists of noord-holland and zuid-holland.. You probably mean brabant :) On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:51 AM, pepijn de vos wrote: > Yay, teaching programming is fun. > > It seems there are enough people interested in helping out. Now, how to > find people to teach? > > Pepijn > > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Winkel, Alex van < > a.vanwinkel at summacollege.nl> wrote: > >> Hi all,**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I would like to help as well. Exept I?m living in the South of Holland , >> near Eindhoven.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Regards,**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Alex**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *Van:* Python-nl [mailto:python-nl-bounces+wial= >> roceindhoven.nl at python.org] *Namens *Jo?l Cox >> *Verzonden:* woensdag 27 maart 2013 7:19 >> *Aan:* Dutch Python developers and users >> *Onderwerp:* Re: [python-nl] teaching more people to program**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Hi,**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I've been thinking about this as well. Definitely interested in helping >> out.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Jo?l**** >> >> ** ** >> >> On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Alper ?ugun wrote:**** >> >> >> >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> Hi all,**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I want to organize something to help more people in the Amsterdam area / >> Netherlands to learn how to program. You might have seen this important >> initiative: http://www.code.org/**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I occasionally give some programming lessons to absolute beginners >> already and I was thinking of organizing an event in Amsterdam but it's too >> big to do by myself (and I spend most of my time in Berlin now). I am >> involved with Hack de Overheid and we would definitely support it and we're >> already thinking of ways to push this into schools. There are tons of >> material and immaterial benefits to teaching more people how to program.* >> *** >> >> ** ** >> >> Here in Berlin I help out with Open Tech School ( >> http://www.opentechschool.org/ ) which is a lot of fun and reaches quite >> some people. They're an open (source) organization which means, we could >> fork it to Amsterdam.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I'd like to hear if you're interested in something like that or what your >> thoughts are. If there's enough interest, I think we could kick something >> off.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Best,**** >> >> Alper**** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-nl mailing list >> Python-nl at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl**** >> >> ** ** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-nl mailing list >> Python-nl at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From a.vanwinkel at summacollege.nl Wed Mar 27 10:52:31 2013 From: a.vanwinkel at summacollege.nl (Winkel, Alex van) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 09:52:31 +0000 Subject: [python-nl] teaching more people to program In-Reply-To: References:

<7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD079@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> Message-ID: <7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD0CF@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> @Dexter : Ok Ok ... I'm living in the South of THE NETHERLANDS (grrrr) (most people outside Europe think The Netherlands is the capital of Amsterdam... :) They oftenly refer to the Netherlands as "Holland" .. hence... ) Regards, Alex. Van: Python-nl [mailto:python-nl-bounces+wial=roceindhoven.nl at python.org] Namens Dexter Verzonden: woensdag 27 maart 2013 10:20 Aan: Dutch Python developers and users Onderwerp: Re: [python-nl] teaching more people to program Sorry, couldnt resist, I'd say you cant live in the south of holland, near eindhoven. holland only exists of noord-holland and zuid-holland.. You probably mean brabant :) On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:51 AM, pepijn de vos > wrote: Yay, teaching programming is fun. It seems there are enough people interested in helping out. Now, how to find people to teach? Pepijn On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Winkel, Alex van > wrote: Hi all, I would like to help as well. Exept I'm living in the South of Holland , near Eindhoven. Regards, Alex Van: Python-nl [mailto:python-nl-bounces+wial=roceindhoven.nl at python.org] Namens Jo?l Cox Verzonden: woensdag 27 maart 2013 7:19 Aan: Dutch Python developers and users Onderwerp: Re: [python-nl] teaching more people to program Hi, I've been thinking about this as well. Definitely interested in helping out. Jo?l On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Alper ?ugun > wrote: Hi all, I want to organize something to help more people in the Amsterdam area / Netherlands to learn how to program. You might have seen this important initiative: http://www.code.org/ I occasionally give some programming lessons to absolute beginners already and I was thinking of organizing an event in Amsterdam but it's too big to do by myself (and I spend most of my time in Berlin now). I am involved with Hack de Overheid and we would definitely support it and we're already thinking of ways to push this into schools. There are tons of material and immaterial benefits to teaching more people how to program. Here in Berlin I help out with Open Tech School ( http://www.opentechschool.org/ ) which is a lot of fun and reaches quite some people. They're an open (source) organization which means, we could fork it to Amsterdam. I'd like to hear if you're interested in something like that or what your thoughts are. If there's enough interest, I think we could kick something off. Best, Alper _______________________________________________ Python-nl mailing list Python-nl at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl _______________________________________________ Python-nl mailing list Python-nl at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl _______________________________________________ Python-nl mailing list Python-nl at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From a.esselink at gmail.com Wed Mar 27 10:58:35 2013 From: a.esselink at gmail.com (Dexter) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 09:58:35 +0000 Subject: [python-nl] teaching more people to program In-Reply-To: <7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD0CF@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> References:

<7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD079@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> <7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD0CF@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> Message-ID: No problem, I was just confused at first glance. On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Winkel, Alex van < a.vanwinkel at summacollege.nl> wrote: > @Dexter :**** > > ** ** > > Ok Ok ? I?m living in the South of THE NETHERLANDS (grrrr)**** > > ** ** > > (most people outside Europe think The Netherlands is the capital of > Amsterdam? J They oftenly refer to the Netherlands as ?Holland? .. > hence? ) **** > > ** ** > > Regards,**** > > ** ** > > Alex.**** > > ** ** > > *Van:* Python-nl [mailto:python-nl-bounces+wial=roceindhoven.nl at python.org] > *Namens *Dexter > *Verzonden:* woensdag 27 maart 2013 10:20 > > *Aan:* Dutch Python developers and users > *Onderwerp:* Re: [python-nl] teaching more people to program**** > > ** ** > > Sorry, couldnt resist, I'd say you cant live in the south of holland, near > eindhoven. holland only exists of noord-holland and zuid-holland.. **** > > ** ** > > You probably mean brabant :)**** > > ** ** > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:51 AM, pepijn de vos > wrote:**** > > Yay, teaching programming is fun.**** > > It seems there are enough people interested in helping out. Now, how to > find people to teach?**** > > Pepijn**** > > ** ** > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Winkel, Alex van < > a.vanwinkel at summacollege.nl> wrote:**** > > Hi all,**** > > **** > > I would like to help as well. Exept I?m living in the South of Holland , > near Eindhoven.**** > > **** > > Regards,**** > > **** > > Alex**** > > **** > > *Van:* Python-nl [mailto:python-nl-bounces+wial=roceindhoven.nl at python.org] > *Namens *Jo?l Cox > *Verzonden:* woensdag 27 maart 2013 7:19 > *Aan:* Dutch Python developers and users > *Onderwerp:* Re: [python-nl] teaching more people to program**** > > **** > > Hi,**** > > **** > > I've been thinking about this as well. Definitely interested in helping > out.**** > > **** > > Jo?l**** > > **** > > On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Alper ?ugun wrote:**** > > ** ** > > **** > > Hi all,**** > > **** > > I want to organize something to help more people in the Amsterdam area / > Netherlands to learn how to program. You might have seen this important > initiative: http://www.code.org/**** > > **** > > I occasionally give some programming lessons to absolute beginners already > and I was thinking of organizing an event in Amsterdam but it's too big to > do by myself (and I spend most of my time in Berlin now). I am involved > with Hack de Overheid and we would definitely support it and we're already > thinking of ways to push this into schools. There are tons of material and > immaterial benefits to teaching more people how to program.**** > > **** > > Here in Berlin I help out with Open Tech School ( > http://www.opentechschool.org/ ) which is a lot of fun and reaches quite > some people. They're an open (source) organization which means, we could > fork it to Amsterdam.**** > > **** > > I'd like to hear if you're interested in something like that or what your > thoughts are. If there's enough interest, I think we could kick something > off.**** > > **** > > Best,**** > > Alper**** > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl**** > > **** > > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl**** > > ** ** > > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vm at klankschap.nl Wed Mar 27 11:07:06 2013 From: vm at klankschap.nl (Floris van Manen) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:07:06 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] teaching more people to program In-Reply-To: <7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD0CF@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> References:

<7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD079@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> <7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD0CF@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> Message-ID: <6DD3205A-1FD7-4CAC-AFF6-9DC22A19B754@klankschap.nl> Not too worry too much as there are three rivers to cross between the north and south :-) .F On 27 Mar 2013, at 10:52, Winkel, Alex van wrote: > @Dexter : > > Ok Ok ? I?m living in the South of THE NETHERLANDS (grrrr) > > (most people outside Europe think The Netherlands is the capital of Amsterdam? J They oftenly refer to the Netherlands as ?Holland? .. hence? ) > > Regards, > > Alex. > > Van: Python-nl [mailto:python-nl-bounces+wial=roceindhoven.nl at python.org] Namens Dexter > Verzonden: woensdag 27 maart 2013 10:20 > Aan: Dutch Python developers and users > Onderwerp: Re: [python-nl] teaching more people to program > > Sorry, couldnt resist, I'd say you cant live in the south of holland, near eindhoven. holland only exists of noord-holland and zuid-holland.. > > You probably mean brabant :) > > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:51 AM, pepijn de vos wrote: > Yay, teaching programming is fun. > > It seems there are enough people interested in helping out. Now, how to find people to teach? > > Pepijn > > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Winkel, Alex van wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to help as well. Exept I?m living in the South of Holland , near Eindhoven. > > Regards, > > Alex > > Van: Python-nl [mailto:python-nl-bounces+wial=roceindhoven.nl at python.org] Namens Jo?l Cox > Verzonden: woensdag 27 maart 2013 7:19 > Aan: Dutch Python developers and users > Onderwerp: Re: [python-nl] teaching more people to program > > Hi, > > I've been thinking about this as well. Definitely interested in helping out. > > Jo?l > > On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Alper ?ugun wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > I want to organize something to help more people in the Amsterdam area / Netherlands to learn how to program. You might have seen this important initiative: http://www.code.org/ > > I occasionally give some programming lessons to absolute beginners already and I was thinking of organizing an event in Amsterdam but it's too big to do by myself (and I spend most of my time in Berlin now). I am involved with Hack de Overheid and we would definitely support it and we're already thinking of ways to push this into schools. There are tons of material and immaterial benefits to teaching more people how to program. > > Here in Berlin I help out with Open Tech School ( http://www.opentechschool.org/ ) which is a lot of fun and reaches quite some people. They're an open (source) organization which means, we could fork it to Amsterdam. > > I'd like to hear if you're interested in something like that or what your thoughts are. If there's enough interest, I think we could kick something off. > > Best, > Alper > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl From a.vanwinkel at summacollege.nl Wed Mar 27 11:14:52 2013 From: a.vanwinkel at summacollege.nl (Winkel, Alex van) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:14:52 +0000 Subject: [python-nl] teaching more people to program In-Reply-To: <6DD3205A-1FD7-4CAC-AFF6-9DC22A19B754@klankschap.nl> References:

<7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD079@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> <7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD0CF@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> <6DD3205A-1FD7-4CAC-AFF6-9DC22A19B754@klankschap.nl> Message-ID: <7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD11E@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> I feel the same :-D -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Python-nl [mailto:python-nl-bounces+wial=roceindhoven.nl at python.org] Namens Floris van Manen Verzonden: woensdag 27 maart 2013 11:07 Aan: Dutch Python developers and users Onderwerp: Re: [python-nl] teaching more people to program Not too worry too much as there are three rivers to cross between the north and south :-) .F On 27 Mar 2013, at 10:52, Winkel, Alex van wrote: > @Dexter : > > Ok Ok . I'm living in the South of THE NETHERLANDS (grrrr) > > (most people outside Europe think The Netherlands is the capital of > Amsterdam. J They oftenly refer to the Netherlands as "Holland" .. > hence. ) > > Regards, > > Alex. > > Van: Python-nl > [mailto:python-nl-bounces+wial=roceindhoven.nl at python.org] Namens > Dexter > Verzonden: woensdag 27 maart 2013 10:20 > Aan: Dutch Python developers and users > Onderwerp: Re: [python-nl] teaching more people to program > > Sorry, couldnt resist, I'd say you cant live in the south of holland, near eindhoven. holland only exists of noord-holland and zuid-holland.. > > You probably mean brabant :) > > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:51 AM, pepijn de vos wrote: > Yay, teaching programming is fun. > > It seems there are enough people interested in helping out. Now, how to find people to teach? > > Pepijn > > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Winkel, Alex van wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to help as well. Exept I'm living in the South of Holland , near Eindhoven. > > Regards, > > Alex > > Van: Python-nl > [mailto:python-nl-bounces+wial=roceindhoven.nl at python.org] Namens Jo?l > Cox > Verzonden: woensdag 27 maart 2013 7:19 > Aan: Dutch Python developers and users > Onderwerp: Re: [python-nl] teaching more people to program > > Hi, > > I've been thinking about this as well. Definitely interested in helping out. > > Jo?l > > On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Alper ?ugun wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > I want to organize something to help more people in the Amsterdam area > / Netherlands to learn how to program. You might have seen this > important initiative: http://www.code.org/ > > I occasionally give some programming lessons to absolute beginners already and I was thinking of organizing an event in Amsterdam but it's too big to do by myself (and I spend most of my time in Berlin now). I am involved with Hack de Overheid and we would definitely support it and we're already thinking of ways to push this into schools. There are tons of material and immaterial benefits to teaching more people how to program. > > Here in Berlin I help out with Open Tech School ( http://www.opentechschool.org/ ) which is a lot of fun and reaches quite some people. They're an open (source) organization which means, we could fork it to Amsterdam. > > I'd like to hear if you're interested in something like that or what your thoughts are. If there's enough interest, I think we could kick something off. > > Best, > Alper > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl _______________________________________________ Python-nl mailing list Python-nl at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl From motoom at xs4all.nl Wed Mar 27 11:41:43 2013 From: motoom at xs4all.nl (Michiel Overtoom) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:41:43 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] teaching more people to program In-Reply-To: <7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD0CF@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> References:

<7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD079@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> <7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD0CF@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> Message-ID: On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:52, Winkel, Alex van wrote: > most people outside Europe think The Netherlands is the capital of Amsterdam? Most Dutch people don't even know that there is something north of Zwolle ;-) [I live in Groningen] -- Van biologisch eten wordt beweerd dat het gezonder zou zijn, beter voor het milleu, en een maatschappelijk verantwoorde keuze. Maar klopt dat wel? http://www.skeptische-artikelen.nl/fabels-over-biologisch-eten Een kritische kijk op populaire fenomenen: http://www.skeptische-artikelen.nl/ From joeri at maykinmedia.nl Wed Mar 27 11:43:20 2013 From: joeri at maykinmedia.nl (Joeri Bekker) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:43:20 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] teaching more people to program In-Reply-To: References:

<7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD079@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> <7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD0CF@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> Message-ID: Confusing, nah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE_IUPInEuc Op 27 maart 2013 11:41 schreef Michiel Overtoom het volgende: > > On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:52, Winkel, Alex van wrote: > > > most people outside Europe think The Netherlands is the capital of > Amsterdam? > > Most Dutch people don't even know that there is something north of Zwolle > ;-) [I live in Groningen] > > -- > Van biologisch eten wordt beweerd dat het gezonder zou zijn, beter voor > het milleu, en een maatschappelijk verantwoorde keuze. Maar klopt dat wel? > http://www.skeptische-artikelen.nl/fabels-over-biologisch-eten > > Een kritische kijk op populaire fenomenen: > http://www.skeptische-artikelen.nl/ > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > -- Maykin Media Herengracht 416, 1017 BZ Amsterdam tel.: +31 (0)20 753 05 23 http://www.maykinmedia.nl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sylvain at infrae.com Wed Mar 27 13:03:45 2013 From: sylvain at infrae.com (Sylvain Viollon) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 13:03:45 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] teaching more people to program In-Reply-To: References:

<7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD079@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> <7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD0CF@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> Message-ID: <0F548434-8CE8-4482-9C98-A9EA5B1213BF@infrae.com> Hello, Op 27 mrt 2013, om 11:41 heeft Michiel Overtoom het volgende geschreven: > > On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:52, Winkel, Alex van wrote: > >> most people outside Europe think The Netherlands is the capital of Amsterdam? > > Most Dutch people don't even know that there is something north of Zwolle ;-) [I live in Groningen] > > There are only cows up there no ? Sorry, I think this is a great idea, to organize such open courses. Regards, Sylvain, -- Sylvain Viollon -- Infrae t +31 10 243 7051 -- http://infrae.com Hoevestraat 10 3033GC Rotterdam -- The Netherlands From niels at nielsbom.com Wed Mar 27 13:55:41 2013 From: niels at nielsbom.com (Niels Bom) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 13:55:41 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] teaching more people to program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm interested. We could try to contact people at universities, like Computer Science students, so we can use their facilities (computer rooms, lecture halls etc). Are there any students on this list who'd like to help? On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Alper ?ugun wrote: > > Hi all, > > I want to organize something to help more people in the Amsterdam area / > Netherlands to learn how to program. You might have seen this important > initiative: http://www.code.org/ > > I occasionally give some programming lessons to absolute beginners already > and I was thinking of organizing an event in Amsterdam but it's too big to > do by myself (and I spend most of my time in Berlin now). I am involved > with Hack de Overheid and we would definitely support it and we're already > thinking of ways to push this into schools. There are tons of material and > immaterial benefits to teaching more people how to program. > > Here in Berlin I help out with Open Tech School ( > http://www.opentechschool.org/ ) which is a lot of fun and reaches quite > some people. They're an open (source) organization which means, we could > fork it to Amsterdam. > > I'd like to hear if you're interested in something like that or what your > thoughts are. If there's enough interest, I think we could kick something > off. > > Best, > Alper > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From a.esselink at gmail.com Wed Mar 27 15:13:36 2013 From: a.esselink at gmail.com (Dexter) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:13:36 +0000 Subject: [python-nl] teaching more people to program In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: You could also use raspberry pies, maybe find a sponsor or something. (or maybe let the children/parents pay) That way, the children can take it home, and play/practice further On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Niels Bom wrote: > I'm interested. > > We could try to contact people at universities, like Computer Science > students, so we can use their facilities (computer rooms, lecture halls > etc). > > Are there any students on this list who'd like to help? > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Alper ?ugun wrote: > >> >> Hi all, >> >> I want to organize something to help more people in the Amsterdam area / >> Netherlands to learn how to program. You might have seen this important >> initiative: http://www.code.org/ >> >> I occasionally give some programming lessons to absolute beginners >> already and I was thinking of organizing an event in Amsterdam but it's too >> big to do by myself (and I spend most of my time in Berlin now). I am >> involved with Hack de Overheid and we would definitely support it and we're >> already thinking of ways to push this into schools. There are tons of >> material and immaterial benefits to teaching more people how to program. >> >> Here in Berlin I help out with Open Tech School ( >> http://www.opentechschool.org/ ) which is a lot of fun and reaches quite >> some people. They're an open (source) organization which means, we could >> fork it to Amsterdam. >> >> I'd like to hear if you're interested in something like that or what your >> thoughts are. If there's enough interest, I think we could kick something >> off. >> >> Best, >> Alper >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-nl mailing list >> Python-nl at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jfdsmit at gmail.com Wed Mar 27 16:23:39 2013 From: jfdsmit at gmail.com (Jens de Smit) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:23:39 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] teaching more people to program In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Nice idea. Of course, you'd still need a gathering place, keyboards, mice and screens, but the idea of letting people take them home to continue progging aligns _exactly_ with the idea behind the RPi. Watch Eben Upton's PyCon keynote to hear the full doctrine :) http://pyvideo.org/video/1668/keynote-2 (highly recommended watch). There may already be material available in the RPi/teaching community. Depending on the target audience it may need rewriting/translating, but the RPi/RPi community could be a very good start here. Jens On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Dexter wrote: > You could also use raspberry pies, maybe find a sponsor or something. (or > maybe let the children/parents pay) > That way, the children can take it home, and play/practice further > > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Niels Bom wrote: > >> I'm interested. >> >> We could try to contact people at universities, like Computer Science >> students, so we can use their facilities (computer rooms, lecture halls >> etc). >> >> Are there any students on this list who'd like to help? >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Alper ?ugun wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I want to organize something to help more people in the Amsterdam area / >>> Netherlands to learn how to program. You might have seen this important >>> initiative: http://www.code.org/ >>> >>> I occasionally give some programming lessons to absolute beginners >>> already and I was thinking of organizing an event in Amsterdam but it's too >>> big to do by myself (and I spend most of my time in Berlin now). I am >>> involved with Hack de Overheid and we would definitely support it and we're >>> already thinking of ways to push this into schools. There are tons of >>> material and immaterial benefits to teaching more people how to program. >>> >>> Here in Berlin I help out with Open Tech School ( >>> http://www.opentechschool.org/ ) which is a lot of fun and reaches >>> quite some people. They're an open (source) organization which means, we >>> could fork it to Amsterdam. >>> >>> I'd like to hear if you're interested in something like that or what >>> your thoughts are. If there's enough interest, I think we could kick >>> something off. >>> >>> Best, >>> Alper >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Python-nl mailing list >>> Python-nl at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-nl mailing list >> Python-nl at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdboor at codingdomain.com Wed Mar 27 17:49:52 2013 From: vdboor at codingdomain.com (Diederik van der Boor) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:49:52 +0000 Subject: [python-nl] Summary Python Web Meetup 21 March In-Reply-To: References: <73AFECE8-A57B-405B-A0DC-47DC2BD04B24@vanrees.org> <234E193D-8D85-40A9-8F32-92E00C69A401@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0000013dacc175de-4bbd3ae8-17f9-433e-834d-33ad70bf5eb3-000000@email.amazonses.com> Op 25 mrt. 2013, om 14:39 heeft Wichert Akkerman het volgende geschreven: >> 1 correctie: >> Ik heb aangegeven dat de GPL ongepast is voor Python/Django modules, dus die juist niet gebruiken ;-) >> Het kan wel, maar daarmee scheid je je project af van andere Python community modules. > > Dat klinkt een beetje kort door de bocht. Er zijn grote Python projecten zoals Plone die vrijwel geheel de GPL-licentie hebben. En Plone heeft een grote actieve community die daar geen enkel probleem mee heeft. Ah, dank voor de aanvulling! Ik heb me hierbij specifiek op Django gericht, en had het daarin ook moeten plaatsen. Waar ik vooral op hint is het "community signifiers" gedeelte uit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhuF0oalOi8 Verder gebruik ik de GPL ook voor andere Linux software. Groet, Diederik ------------- volgend deel ------------ Een HTML-bijlage is gescrubt... URL: From motoom at xs4all.nl Wed Mar 27 19:38:28 2013 From: motoom at xs4all.nl (Michiel Overtoom) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:38:28 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] teaching more people to program In-Reply-To: <0F548434-8CE8-4482-9C98-A9EA5B1213BF@infrae.com> References:

<7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD079@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> <7E99689E469D7146957C833FE12C6E7E7DD0CF@exchcbv-fl01.summacollege.nl> <0F548434-8CE8-4482-9C98-A9EA5B1213BF@infrae.com> Message-ID: On Mar 27, 2013, at 13:03, Sylvain Viollon wrote: > Op 27 mrt 2013, om 11:41 heeft Michiel Overtoom het volgende geschreven: >> Most Dutch people don't even know that there is something north of Zwolle ;-) [I live in Groningen] > > There are only cows up there no ? Many cows indeed, but also Python conferences: http://www.pygrunn.org/ Greetings, -- Van biologisch eten wordt beweerd dat het gezonder zou zijn, beter voor het milleu, en een maatschappelijk verantwoorde keuze. Maar klopt dat wel? http://www.skeptische-artikelen.nl/fabels-over-biologisch-eten Een kritische kijk op populaire fenomenen: http://www.skeptische-artikelen.nl/ From remco at maykinmedia.nl Wed Mar 27 20:47:26 2013 From: remco at maykinmedia.nl (Remco Wendt) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:47:26 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] teaching more people to program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +10 on this!! :) I'm definitely interested in helping out. Actually I'm about to help a friend start programming in Python next week and we've already done some Django bootcamps. Maybe a meetup in person sometime soon? On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Alper ?ugun wrote: > > Hi all, > > I want to organize something to help more people in the Amsterdam area / > Netherlands to learn how to program. You might have seen this important > initiative: http://www.code.org/ > > I occasionally give some programming lessons to absolute beginners already > and I was thinking of organizing an event in Amsterdam but it's too big to > do by myself (and I spend most of my time in Berlin now). I am involved > with Hack de Overheid and we would definitely support it and we're already > thinking of ways to push this into schools. There are tons of material and > immaterial benefits to teaching more people how to program. > > Here in Berlin I help out with Open Tech School ( > http://www.opentechschool.org/ ) which is a lot of fun and reaches quite > some people. They're an open (source) organization which means, we could > fork it to Amsterdam. > > I'd like to hear if you're interested in something like that or what your > thoughts are. If there's enough interest, I think we could kick something > off. > > Best, > Alper > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jlodijk at gmail.com Wed Mar 27 21:04:53 2013 From: jlodijk at gmail.com (hans Odijk) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:04:53 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] teaching more people to program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hi, i'am in, 2013/3/26 Lars Claussen > Hi, > > Actually last week I was talking to a friend of mine of how I would like > to teach some programming to people who would like to start out. I haven't > spend much thought about a certain format but whatever this could be > I'm definitely interested in joining in on the action. > > Cheers, > Lars > > 2013/3/26 Alper ?ugun > >> >> Hi all, >> >> I want to organize something to help more people in the Amsterdam area / >> Netherlands to learn how to program. You might have seen this important >> initiative: http://www.code.org/ >> >> I occasionally give some programming lessons to absolute beginners >> already and I was thinking of organizing an event in Amsterdam but it's too >> big to do by myself (and I spend most of my time in Berlin now). I am >> involved with Hack de Overheid and we would definitely support it and we're >> already thinking of ways to push this into schools. There are tons of >> material and immaterial benefits to teaching more people how to program. >> >> Here in Berlin I help out with Open Tech School ( >> http://www.opentechschool.org/ ) which is a lot of fun and reaches quite >> some people. They're an open (source) organization which means, we could >> fork it to Amsterdam. >> >> I'd like to hear if you're interested in something like that or what your >> thoughts are. If there's enough interest, I think we could kick something >> off. >> >> Best, >> Alper >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-nl mailing list >> Python-nl at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > ------------- volgend deel ------------ Een HTML-bijlage is gescrubt... URL: From stappers at stappers.nl Fri Mar 29 09:46:10 2013 From: stappers at stappers.nl (Geert Stappers) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:46:10 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] SSH: fabric of paramiko Message-ID: <20130329084610.GO11957@gpm.stappers.nl> Hallo, Graag jullie advies over welke Python module te gebruiken om secure shell, ssh, zaken te scripten. Mijn eigen onderzoek is nu gestrand bij de keuze tussen paramiko en fabric. Het blijkt dat fabric een dependency op paramiko heeft. Wat is er "extra" aan fabric? In andere woorden: Onder welke omstandigheden zou fabric de voorkeur boven paramiko moeten krijgen? Groeten Geert Stappers -- > And is there a policy on top-posting vs. bottom-posting? Yes. ------------- volgend deel ------------ Een niet-tekst bijlage is gescrubt... Naam: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Grootte: 198 bytes Omschrijving: Digital signature URL : From dirkjan at ochtman.nl Fri Mar 29 09:59:45 2013 From: dirkjan at ochtman.nl (Dirkjan Ochtman) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:59:45 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] SSH: fabric of paramiko In-Reply-To: <20130329084610.GO11957@gpm.stappers.nl> References: <20130329084610.GO11957@gpm.stappers.nl> Message-ID: 2013/3/29 Geert Stappers : > Wat is er "extra" aan fabric? > In andere woorden: Onder welke omstandigheden zou fabric > de voorkeur boven paramiko moeten krijgen? Fabric en Paramiko zijn hele andere tools. Paramiko is simpelweg een library die communicatie over ssh en sftp eenvoudig te hanteren maakt. Fabric is een tool die daarop voortbouwt om "application deployment or systems administration tasks" te automatiseren. Hangt er dus vanaf wat je precies wil scripten welke tool het meest geschikt is. Groet, Dirkjan From iftecan2000 at gmail.com Fri Mar 29 10:00:51 2013 From: iftecan2000 at gmail.com (Ifthikhan Nazeem) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:00:51 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] SSH: fabric of paramiko In-Reply-To: <20130329084610.GO11957@gpm.stappers.nl> References: <20130329084610.GO11957@gpm.stappers.nl> Message-ID: Hi Geert, I used google translate to read your email :). Fabric is built on top of Paramiko and the decision to choose either would be based on whether you need the high level features offered by fabric to interact with the remote server or do you want to stick to the bare essentials offered by paramiko. The decision would depend on your use-case. Care to share what you intend to build. -- Thanks and Best Regards, Iftikhan Nazeem *LinkedIn* : http://ae.linkedin.com/in/ifthikhan *Mob (Dubai) :* +971 050 7382623 *Mob (Amsterdam) :* +31 06 14769827 *Skype* : iftecan2000 2013/3/29 Geert Stappers > > Hallo, > > Graag jullie advies over welke Python module te gebruiken > om secure shell, ssh, zaken te scripten. > > Mijn eigen onderzoek is nu gestrand > bij de keuze tussen paramiko en fabric. > > Het blijkt dat fabric een dependency op paramiko heeft. > > Wat is er "extra" aan fabric? > In andere woorden: Onder welke omstandigheden zou fabric > de voorkeur boven paramiko moeten krijgen? > > > Groeten > Geert Stappers > -- > > And is there a policy on top-posting vs. bottom-posting? > Yes. > > _______________________________________________ > Python-nl mailing list > Python-nl at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-nl > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stappers at stappers.nl Fri Mar 29 10:18:09 2013 From: stappers at stappers.nl (Geert Stappers) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:18:09 +0100 Subject: [python-nl] SSH: fabric of paramiko In-Reply-To: References: <20130329084610.GO11957@gpm.stappers.nl> Message-ID: <20130329091809.GP11957@gpm.stappers.nl> Op 2013-03-29 om 09:59 schreef Dirkjan Ochtman: > 2013/3/29 Geert Stappers > > Wat is er "extra" aan fabric? > > In andere woorden: Onder welke omstandigheden zou fabric > > de voorkeur boven paramiko moeten krijgen? > > Fabric en Paramiko zijn hele andere tools. Paramiko is simpelweg een > library die communicatie over ssh en sftp eenvoudig te hanteren maakt. > Fabric is een tool die daarop voortbouwt om "application deployment or > systems administration tasks" te automatiseren. Hangt er dus vanaf wat > je precies wil scripten welke tool het meest geschikt is. Het is de bedoeling om netwerkswitches uit te lezen. Zeg maar de categorie "systems administration tasks". Dank voor het advies, ik ga spelen met fabric http://fabfile.org Groeten Geert Stappers -- > And is there a policy on top-posting vs. bottom-posting? Yes. ------------- volgend deel ------------ Een niet-tekst bijlage is gescrubt... Naam: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Grootte: 198 bytes Omschrijving: Digital signature URL :