[python-uk] [EuroPython] London Python Pub Night

Nicholas Tollervey ntoll at ntoll.org
Thu Aug 6 10:29:59 CEST 2009

Hi Folks,

As one of the other instigators of the code Dojo proposal I've just  
found out I've got clashing dates... :-(

So we have two options:

1) Someone else take up the reins for the Dojo and/or the meeting goes  
ahead anyway with lightning talks followed by the pub.
2) We re-schedule for a later date (in September).

Also, if we're to make this work, we'll need to organise ourselves -  
I've been involved in this sort of thing before (LUGs and the like)  
and the most successful ones have had talks pre-arranged and a general  
"programme" for each evening (usually featured talk -> lightning talks  
-> pub). Perhaps we could put in a short Dojo as a preliminary "warm- 
up" for such meetings..? ... er, a Kata..? ;-)

Comments, suggestions..?


On 4 Aug 2009, at 00:30, jonathan hartley wrote:

> To clarify: The proposal for Aug 20th is for other events as well as  
> the dojo, lightning talks and the like, followed by the pub. So even  
> if the dojo doesn't happen this time, the event itself is on like  
> Donkey Kong regardless, is my guess.
> jonathan hartley wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> The idea of a Python dojo night in London has been suggested.  
>> Partially by me.
>> A venue has been generously offered for the evening of August 20th  
>> (see below, emails from the Europython mailing list)
>> I'm mad keen on the idea. However, I can't be present that night  
>> because I'm out of town Aug 18th to 23rd.
>> Does anyone else feel up to leading the charge? I'd love to pass on  
>> what I know, but be warned that I know almost nothing, having  
>> gleaned the entirety of my experience of the subject from  
>> discussion and examples from Emily Bache at EuroPython last month.
>> As I understand it, the word 'dojo' is a figurative reference to a  
>> martial arts training meetup, to improve one's skills. A coding  
>> dojo consists of a hands-on programming exercise, performed as a  
>> group. The intent is to choose a problem which is simple enough to  
>> allow participants to focus on the process of arriving at the  
>> solution, without being overly distracted by the unknowns of the  
>> problem domain or any inherent complexities of the resulting code.  
>> This makes it an ideal format to learn or hone skills such as:
>>    + choosing one design over another
>>    + test-driven development
>>    + egoless programming
>>    + evidence-driven debugging
>>    + no doubt many more
>> The best one-page description of a coding dojo I have found to date  
>> is here:
>> http://web.cs.wpi.edu/~gpollice/Dojo.html
>> Your thoughts, objections, and expressions of curiosity are all  
>> much appreciated,
>>   Jonathan
>> Jonathan Hartley wrote:
>>> Sounds like a fantastic idea, thanks for the prod Nicholas.
>>> Does it make sense to migrate the discussion to the Python UK  
>>> mailing list?
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk
>>> I'm not well qualified to explain Dojos, but I'll give it a shot.  
>>> More from me on python-uk, later today...
>>> Nicholas Tollervey wrote:
>>>> Guys,
>>>> It was good to meet up last night. One of the topics that often  
>>>> came up was "we should make this a more regular event". Jonathan  
>>>> also mentioned organising a "Code Dojo" - I'll let him explain  
>>>> what that'd involve.
>>>> So, while the iron is hot: how about a time and place for August..?
>>>> Say 7pm, 20th August, starting with a "Code Dojo" / lightning  
>>>> talks followed by the pub at the offices of Fry-IT? (Thanks Peter  
>>>> and Marcus for volunteering these premises for free):
>>>> 503 Enterprise House
>>>> 1/2 Hatfields
>>>> London SE1 9PG
>>>> Comments, suggestions, confirmations..?
>>>> Nicholas.
>>>> On 10 Jul 2009, at 10:51, Stephen Emslie wrote:
>>>>> Those at EuroPython in Birmingham showed quite a bit of interest  
>>>>> in regular London Python meetups. So while it's is still fresh  
>>>>> in all of our minds, lets do a post-convention debriefing at the  
>>>>> Old Bank of England pub on Fleet Street next Wednesday.
>>>>> Ideally, we would like to make this a regular event. We all hope  
>>>>> Simon Brunning (or someone else) finds the time to reboot the  
>>>>> more official London Python meetups, with talks + sponsored beer  
>>>>> & pizza, etc. so the intention here is to provide a relaxed and  
>>>>> informal regular meet to drink ale and discuss Python (drinking  
>>>>> of ale is optional).
>>>>> Time: Wednesday 15 July, from 7pm
>>>>> Venue: Old Bank of England Pub: http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/66/660/
>>>>> In case you weren't at EuroPython but would like to come, we'll  
>>>>> display the usual can of spam to make us identifiable.
>>>>> Stephen Emslie & Andy Kilner
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