[python-uk] 2 Principle Engineer roles in London up to £95k

[Steve Holden]

Yes, it's a pity the more rational feedback didn't come first, but knees do
tend to jerk at recruitment communications.  S

Steve Holden

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Tom Wright <tom at tatw.name> wrote:

> Perhaps replying immediately doesn't count as pause, but I hope this
> constitutes thought.
>
> I would make three points:
>
> I. The tone of the response may in part be due to the recruitment topic
> more than anything else. This is unfortunately a rather fraught subject.
> Bulk recruitment ads are so common  it is unsurprising that people would
> view them as a piece of text rather than a correspondence with a real
> person.
>
> II. I suspect that many readers do not view this list as for communication
> that requires "professional" standards. And might view the imposition of
> professionalism in this context as problematic.
>
> This represents the key conflict at the heart of codes of conduct:
> in-group behaviour that can be damagingly exclusionary, versus the
> imposition of strict rules that impinge upon an informal setting.
>
> III. I don't know if the guidance on this list for jobs posts is
> particularly clear, and if I am not mistaken is mostly held in people's
> heads. An unfortunate side effect of no clearly defined rules is that the
> informal rules can be unforced rather unfriendlily.
>
> On 6 Dec 2016 1:46 p.m., "David Wilson" <dw+python-uk at hmmz.org> wrote:
>
>> While I quite enjoyed this thread and, especially considering the
>> recruiter's followup, it appears to have somewhat been in bad taste.
>>
>> I can't speak for others, but I'm in my mid 30s and regularly confuse
>> license/licence, prescribe/proscribe and without doubt a bunch more,
>> either through finger memory or plain old thinko. It would not be
>> without embarrassment to have strangers publicly ridicule such errors,
>> especially in a professional context as occurred here.
>>
>> This is a minor incident, but it's from a class where the underlying
>> insensitivity has forced other communities to grow a Code of Conduct,
>> therefore perhaps it's worth taking a little pause to reflect on it.
>>
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 01:57:00PM +0000, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote:
>> > On 06/12/16 13:20, Roger Gammans wrote:
>> > > If your set of Prinicpia is Russell's not Newton's you may not
>> > > have simple values.
>> >
>> > Our principal aim is to express a complete and consistent set of
>> > misspelled principles.
>> >
>>
>>
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