[python-uk] 2 Principle Engineer roles in London up to £95k

Alistair Broomhead alistair.broomhead at gmail.com
Wed Dec 7 06:49:17 EST 2016

I would prefer not to hold other people to a higher standard than I hold
myself. I know I'm certainly guilty of sending an email in a rush before,
and later seeing that it wasn't perfect.

The matter of the email's spelling being raked up again and again, when
Sophie has apologised for it, and pointed out that this is something she
struggles with on account of her disability, quite frankly stinks of
ableism, which I have no time for.

This community has a reputation for being inclusive and friendly. Picking
on someone's disability is a great way to destroy that reputation. Please

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 at 11:44 Richard Barran <richard at arbee-design.co.uk>

> > On 7 Dec 2016, at 11:49, Daniele Procida <daniele at vurt.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, Richard Smith <richard at indigo3.com> wrote:
> >
> >> What was rude about it?
> >
> > Referring to a person as a "lazy recruitment agent" is rude.
> >
> >> Sophie is
> >> going to have to prove that she can be a trusted agent.
> >
> > Sophie doesn't have to prove anything. All she has to do is use the list
> in accordance with its agreed purposes, politely.
> >
> I have to disagree; using a list in accordance with its agreed purpose, or
> with a code of conduct, or whatever, is not enough.
> The people who subscribe to this list are busy; we all have lives, jobs,
> families, unreasonable bosses, tiring commutes, sick and elderly parents,
> etc…
> Someone who requests our attention and time should respect that time, that
> attention that we are giving them.
> The recruiter who started this thread has posted several times before to
> this list; looking at her previous posts, they are well formatted, explain
> succinctly the jobs on offer, and provide enough information for me to
> decide if I want to contact her for more information (and just in case my
> boss is reading this: no, I’m not *actually* reading the job ads in
> detail!).
> This latest post, however, was frankly lazy:
> - typo in the title.
> - a list of technologies that’s badly copy-and-pasted (e.g “Postgre”) as
> well as showing poor understanding of the subject area (“tech stack”
> includes “APIs”. Err, come again?).
> The OP has proven that "that she can be a trusted agent” (to quote from
> Richard Smith’s email) in the past.
> However, trust and respect is not something that is earned once and for
> all - if I start spouting rubbish, I can expect to be called out on it, not
> matter how much respect (or “browny points”) I might have earned in the
> past. And I think that this should apply to anyone who posts to a mailing
> list.
> Richard
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