[python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

Paulo Benatto benatto at gmail.com
Wed May 18 06:44:04 EDT 2016


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On 18 May 2016 at 11:33, Hansel Dunlop <hansel at interpretthis.org> wrote:

> As someone who has been recruiting junior developers this year. I can say
> that the boot camps don't do much to differentiate you from the pack. There
> is also a very large number of people coming out of them meeting a much
> smaller amount of actual demand for people at that stage of their career.
> And they are VERY expensive and some of them charge employers to hire their
> students. i.e they are operating like recruiters.
>
> Maybe your friend has a project that he could spend his evenings working
> on instead? I would always hire someone who had made something over someone
> that hadn't.
>
> Hansel
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Nicholas H.Tollervey <ntoll at ntoll.org>
> wrote:
>
>> As someone with a background in Philosophy I can see where your friend
>> is coming from. ;-)
>>
>> As far as I can tell, the bootcamps are not worth the money for the
>> following reasons:
>>
>> * They're expensive for what you get.
>> * They're all about cramming facts.
>> * They teach specific technologies rather than software engineering.
>>
>> Having said that, some may be quite good but your mileage might vary.
>>
>> What I would do is find a university that does evening classes (such as
>> Birkbeck College, University of London) or sign up to the OU for a
>> taster, and take an introductory course in programming. I'd also
>> encourage your friend to think of a problem they're interested in and
>> use that as the basis / inspiration for learning things. If they want to
>> learn Python, bring them to the London Python Code Dojo and get them to
>> engage with the community. Finally, if they want to jump in with both
>> feet, they could sign up for a "conversion" MSc in Computing (for people
>> with undergraduate degrees in non-computing subjects). That's what I did.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> N.
>>
>> On 18/05/16 10:59, John via python-uk wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > A philosopher friend of mine wants to transition into working as a
>> > software developer (paying work in philosophy being a bit rare). He
>> > lives in London, and is considering signing up for one of the Coding
>> > "Bootcamps" that various organisations run. I wondered if any of you
>> > have any recommendations you could make, and indeed whether any of these
>> > bootcamps teach Python?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> >
>> >
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