From timr at probo.com  Thu May  1 18:46:38 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 09:46:38 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Help about printing
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Javi wrote:
> Hello, i use python 2.5,  and wx, i'm trying to print a bitmap with 
> transparency background  but it doesnt print right,  i just get a 
> preview right but when i printed it, bitmap transparency background  
> is printed on black. I dont know why , but i need to print it right. 
> All help will be welcome. Thanks.
>
> P.D: i tried to print the wxpython demo 2.8 and  it happens the same, 
> transparency background is printed on black.

Many printers do not handle transparency.  What kind of printer is it?

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From mc at mclaveau.com  Thu May  1 19:02:01 2008
From: mc at mclaveau.com (Michel Claveau)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 19:02:01 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] Help about printing
In-Reply-To: <4819F3EE.8010802@probo.com>
References: <4816D36B.6060705@bertayjavi.com>
	<481705CE.9010300@bertayjavi.com> <4819F3EE.8010802@probo.com>
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Hi!

> Many printers do not handle transparency.  What kind of printer is it?

An invisible printer?
;-)


Michel Claveau



From timr at probo.com  Thu May  1 19:38:27 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 10:38:27 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Help about printing
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	<773A11EF827A4A60B23A26CDFD46BE8C@MCI1330>
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Michel Claveau wrote:
> Hi!
>
>> Many printers do not handle transparency.  What kind of printer is it?
>
> An invisible printer?
> ;-)

Ironically, I often have the opposite problem.  When my inkjet printer 
starts to run low, I find that it excels at printing transparent images, 
but neglects to print anything opaque.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


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<!-- DIV {margin:0px;}-->Hello All,

Ihave a fairly straightforward script that attempts to connect to a webserver using https and retrieve some data which is then compared to afile retrieved out of subversion.  To do these tasks, my script isusing M2Crypto 0.18.2 and PySVN 1.5.3-904.  While these are onlyincidental to my problem, I thought it worth including for background.

Ifin the script the import order is to load M2Crypto followed by PySVN,the function call attempting to connect to the subversion fails withthe following error: 

"pysvn._pysvn_2_5.ClientError: PROPFIND request failed on '<svn path>'
PROPFIND of '<svn path>': SSL negotiation failed: SSL disabled due to library version mismatch (https://typhon)"

IfI upgrade to Python 2.5.2 from 2.5.1, the python interpreter crasheswith a fatal exception instead of throwing the exception listed above.

Now, if instead I import PySVN first before M2Crypto, then compilation of the script fails with this exception:

"Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "D:\programs\working\test.py", line 20, in <module>
    import M2Crypto
  File "C:\utils\Python25\Lib\site-packages\M2Crypto\__init__.py", line 14, in <module>
    import __m2crypto
ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified procedure could not be found."

Furtherresearch into this problem shows that M2Crypto and PySVN are compiledagainst different versions of the OpenSSL dlls.  I can't help butwonder if this suggests a wider problem with how dlls are handled.  Itmakes sense that the Python VM would only want to load 1 copy of anydlls for memory and performance reasons, but then it leaves problemslike this one.  Maybe the only 'workaround' is to compile externalmodules for yourself rather than relying on pre-built binaries.  If youhave any information or advice for me, it would be appreciated.

Thank you,
John Siegrist










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From rdahlstrom at directedge.com  Thu May  1 20:01:28 2008
From: rdahlstrom at directedge.com (Dahlstrom, Roger)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 14:01:28 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Help about printing
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My quantum printer prints both at the same time, but every time I try to tell which is which, it changes the outcome. 

-----Original Message-----
From: python-win32-bounces at python.org [mailto:python-win32-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tim Roberts
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:38 PM
To: Python-Win32 List
Subject: Re: [python-win32] Help about printing

Michel Claveau wrote:
> Hi!
>
>> Many printers do not handle transparency.  What kind of printer is it?
>
> An invisible printer?
> ;-)

Ironically, I often have the opposite problem.  When my inkjet printer 
starts to run low, I find that it excels at printing transparent images, 
but neglects to print anything opaque.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.

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From mugunth at gmail.com  Thu May  1 20:43:46 2008
From: mugunth at gmail.com (Muguntharaj Subramanian)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 00:13:46 +0530
Subject: [python-win32] pyHook related doubt
In-Reply-To: <8dd9fd0804290016p5a6c91ebx249eb05e87bdf451@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi All,
I am resending this from tutor list since this seems to be appropriate place
to ask this question.
I am trying to create a custom keyboard driver program(like
http://www.tavultesoft.com/keyman/ ) for windows using python.
If this python script is run in the background, what is typed should be
converted into my native language.
For example if I hit 'a' in the keyboard, the output of the keyboard should
be a tamil unicode character(which will be pre-defined by user).

For making such program, I tried exploring pyHook based on this tutorial.
http://mindtrove.info/articles/monitoring-global-input-with-pyhook/

>From the tutorial, I have learned to capture the keys typed, but couldn't
understand how to change the keys before they reach the windows
applications.

Attached is the sample code I used (In this code basically I am trying to
change all the keys typed to 'b' in this code, but its not working )

Please guide me on how i can change the keys sent to the application using
pyHook. Or is there any other library that I can make use of to create such
application.

Regards,
Mugunth
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From tom.moulton at cox.net  Thu May  1 23:31:23 2008
From: tom.moulton at cox.net (Tom Moulton)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 17:31:23 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] wmi, Win32_ScheduledJob and Execution User
Message-ID: <20080501173123.G5ZG3.21328.imail@eastrmwml08.mgt.cox.net>

I've followed Tim Golden's cookbook example to schedule a job via his Python wmi module; however, I need to specify the user account a scheduled job gets executed under (i.e., the process owner).  The cookbook example will schedule a job owned by SYSTEM.  I note the actual WMI library provides for a User and Password option, which do not appear to be visible options from within the python wmi module's Win32_ScheduledJob call.  I am uncertain if the aforementioned User and Password options actually cause the scheduled job to be run as that user?  As a workaround I schedule my job via the Win32_ScheduledJob call and follow this up with a Win32_Process.Create call to "schtasks.exe", in which I change the job id's run user (i.e., via the /RU option) to the appropriate user name.

Is there a way I can specify the run (or execution) user of a scheduled job within the Win32_ScheduledJob call or via the wmi interface?  The way I am doing it right now, I could have simply called schtasks.exe directly and had it create the process with the intended run user, which I don't find very eloquent.

Tom

From rwupole at msn.com  Fri May  2 02:53:24 2008
From: rwupole at msn.com (Roger Upole)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 20:53:24 -0400
Subject: [python-win32]  wmi, Win32_ScheduledJob and Execution User
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP132299A3A978A2D635C7C4A3DA0@phx.gbl>

The Win32_ScheduledJob class represents "AT Service" jobs,
and doesn't support running under a specific user.  When you access
the job via the Scheduled Tasks api, it's actually converted to the
newer task format.

You can use the ITaskScheduler interface to directly create and
manipulate scheduled tasks.  There are some demos in
\win32comext\taskscheduler\test\ showing how it's used.

          Roger


From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Fri May  2 03:00:14 2008
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 11:00:14 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] wmi, Win32_ScheduledJob and Execution User
In-Reply-To: <20080501173123.G5ZG3.21328.imail@eastrmwml08.mgt.cox.net>
References: <20080501173123.G5ZG3.21328.imail@eastrmwml08.mgt.cox.net>
Message-ID: <057301c8abef$e3f07820$abd16860$@com.au>

> I've followed Tim Golden's cookbook example to schedule a job via his
> Python wmi module; however, I need to specify the user account a
> scheduled job gets executed under (i.e., the process owner).  The
> cookbook example will schedule a job owned by SYSTEM.  I note the
> actual WMI library provides for a User and Password option, which do
> not appear to be visible options from within the python wmi module's
> Win32_ScheduledJob call.  I am uncertain if the aforementioned User and
> Password options actually cause the scheduled job to be run as that
> user?  As a workaround I schedule my job via the Win32_ScheduledJob
> call and follow this up with a Win32_Process.Create call to
> "schtasks.exe", in which I change the job id's run user (i.e., via the
> /RU option) to the appropriate user name.
> 
> Is there a way I can specify the run (or execution) user of a scheduled
> job within the Win32_ScheduledJob call or via the wmi interface?  The
> way I am doing it right now, I could have simply called schtasks.exe
> directly and had it create the process with the intended run user,
> which I don't find very eloquent.

I'm not sure exactly where you are at, but here is a snippet of code that we
use at Enfold.  Note that 'username' is a string param, and that we have
special handling of '.\\localsystem' that you probably don't.

from win32com.taskscheduler import taskscheduler
ts=pythoncom.CoCreateInstance(taskscheduler.CLSID_CTaskScheduler,None,
 
pythoncom.CLSCTX_INPROC_SERVER,taskscheduler.IID_ITaskScheduler)
...
t=ts.NewWorkItem(task_name)
t.SetComment("The comment")
t.SetApplicationName(executable)
...
# Note: Windows 2000 appears to allow the task to be set with an
# incorrect password - it just fails to run. XP SP2+ fails to add the task.
# None password is only valid for local system acct or if task flags contain
TASK_FLAG_RUN_ONLY_IF_LOGGED_ON
# so there is no point defaulting to a the current user - we don't know
their password!
# So we have hard-coded support for ".\LocalSystem" and set the task
accordingly -
# otherwise we need a username and password.
if username.lower() == ".\\localsystem":
    t.SetAccountInformation("", None)
else:
    assert username and password, "Need a username and password!"
    # almost everywhere else allows ".\username" but not here - expand
manually.
    if username.startswith(".\\"):
        username = win32api.GetComputerName() + username[1:]
    t.SetAccountInformation(username, password)
...

Hope that helps,

Mark


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Fri May  2 10:39:33 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 09:39:33 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] wmi, Win32_ScheduledJob and Execution User
In-Reply-To: <20080501173123.G5ZG3.21328.imail@eastrmwml08.mgt.cox.net>
References: <20080501173123.G5ZG3.21328.imail@eastrmwml08.mgt.cox.net>
Message-ID: <481AD345.7050504@timgolden.me.uk>

[Tom Moulton]
> I've followed Tim Golden's cookbook example to schedule a job via his Python wmi module; 
> however, I need to specify the user account a scheduled job gets executed under (i.e., the 
> process owner).  The cookbook example will schedule a job owned by SYSTEM.  I note the 
> actual WMI library provides for a User and Password option, which do not appear to be visible 
> options from within the python wmi module's Win32_ScheduledJob call.  I am uncertain if the 
> aforementioned User and Password options actually cause the scheduled job to be run as that user?  
> As a workaround I schedule my job via the Win32_ScheduledJob call and follow this up with a 
> Win32_Process.Create call to "schtasks.exe", in which I change the job id's run user 
> (i.e., via the /RU option) to the appropriate user name.

> Is there a way I can specify the run (or execution) user of a scheduled job within the 
> Win32_ScheduledJob call or via the wmi interface?  The way I am doing it right now, I could 
> have simply called schtasks.exe directly and had it create the process with the intended 
> run user, which I don't find very eloquent.

The answer seems to be: no you can't. You're limited by whatever interface the requisite
WMI class exposes, and the .Create method has the signature:

<function Create (Command, DaysOfMonth, DaysOfWeek, InteractWithDesktop, RunRepeatedly, StartTime) => (JobId, ReturnValue)>

which is a bit of a pain. As you say, once you use schtasks.exe, you might as well have used
it in the first place. I would guess that this area in WMI has suffered from the repositioning
of the old AT service as a kind of adjunct to the newer Scheduled Tasks mechanism.
(AT basically ran as Local System or Local Network accounts with no alternative; scheduled 
tasks have to be set up to run as a specific user).

As a workaround which I would think is more trouble than it was worth, you might have
your scheduled job switch its user context internally using ImpersonateLoggedOnUser
or another such mechanism.

As *another* alternative, you could use the win32com.taskscheduler module from
the pywin32 packages. It takes a bit of getting into, but I think there are some
examples in the demo directories, and I've got some helper code squirrelled away
if you're interested.

TJG


From javi at bertayjavi.com  Fri May  2 17:01:34 2008
From: javi at bertayjavi.com (Javi)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 17:01:34 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] Help about printing
In-Reply-To: <4819F3EE.8010802@probo.com>
References: <4816D36B.6060705@bertayjavi.com>
	<481705CE.9010300@bertayjavi.com> <4819F3EE.8010802@probo.com>
Message-ID: <481B2CCE.5030704@bertayjavi.com>

Tim Roberts escribi?:
> Javi wrote:
>> Hello, i use python 2.5,  and wx, i'm trying to print a bitmap with 
>> transparency background  but it doesnt print right,  i just get a 
>> preview right but when i printed it, bitmap transparency background  
>> is printed on black. I dont know why , but i need to print it right. 
>> All help will be welcome. Thanks.
>>
>> P.D: i tried to print the wxpython demo 2.8 and  it happens the same, 
>> transparency background is printed on black.
>
> Many printers do not handle transparency.  What kind of printer is it?

i tried with  3 printers, hp laserjet color 2550, ricoch 1600spn, and 
samsung laser i dont remenber the model, all black background.


From adam at volition-inc.com  Tue May  6 04:44:35 2008
From: adam at volition-inc.com (Adam Pletcher)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 21:44:35 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] COM Dispatch w/multiple sessions?
Message-ID: <893A44FF792E904A97B7515CE3419146F1ECF3@volimxs01.thqinc.com>

I have a tool that interacts with a COM server created by a third-party application.  My users sometimes need to open mutiple copies of that application.  You can probably guess where this is going.
 
Is there any way to tell win32com.client to connect to a specific instance/process of that application?
 
I'm currently using the typical win32com.client.Dispatch, which seems to just bind to the first process opened using that COM interface.  Any suggestions/workarounds appreciated.
 
- Adam
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From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Tue May  6 07:28:19 2008
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 15:28:19 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] COM Dispatch w/multiple sessions?
In-Reply-To: <893A44FF792E904A97B7515CE3419146F1ECF3@volimxs01.thqinc.com>
References: <893A44FF792E904A97B7515CE3419146F1ECF3@volimxs01.thqinc.com>
Message-ID: <03c901c8af3a$02a76d30$07f64790$@com.au>

You probably want win32com.client.DispatchEx(), which doesn't try and "get
current object" magic.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

 

From: python-win32-bounces+mhammond=keypoint.com.au at python.org
[mailto:python-win32-bounces+mhammond=keypoint.com.au at python.org] On Behalf
Of Adam Pletcher
Sent: Tuesday, 6 May 2008 12:45 PM
To: python-win32 at python.org
Subject: [python-win32] COM Dispatch w/multiple sessions?

 

I have a tool that interacts with a COM server created by a third-party
application.  My users sometimes need to open mutiple copies of that
application.  You can probably guess where this is going.

 

Is there any way to tell win32com.client to connect to a specific
instance/process of that application?

 

I'm currently using the typical win32com.client.Dispatch, which seems to
just bind to the first process opened using that COM interface.  Any
suggestions/workarounds appreciated.

 

- Adam

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From rwupole at msn.com  Tue May  6 10:23:42 2008
From: rwupole at msn.com (Roger Upole)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 04:23:42 -0400
Subject: [python-win32]  COM Dispatch w/multiple sessions?
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP3064EDC74CEFE825EF3AB7A3D60@phx.gbl>

Adam Pletcher wrote:
> I have a tool that interacts with a COM server created by a third-party 
> application.  My users sometimes need to open mutiple copies of that 
> application.  You can probably guess where this is going.
> Is there any way to tell win32com.client to connect to a specific 
> instance/process of that application?
> 
> I'm currently using the typical win32com.client.Dispatch, which seems to 
> just bind to the first process opened using that COM interface.  Any 
> suggestions/workarounds appreciated.
> 
> - Adam

Some applications support this behaviour by using a Moniker to
identify a particular instance.  For example, Excel uses a file
moniker (pythoncom.CreateFileMoniker), and the object's
Bind method will connect to an instance of Excel that has
that file loaded.
If your app supports moniker semantics, you might be able
to do it that way.

           Roger


From siddhartha.veedaluru at gmail.com  Tue May  6 12:08:29 2008
From: siddhartha.veedaluru at gmail.com (siddhartha veedaluru)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 15:38:29 +0530
Subject: [python-win32] Create a System DSN which points to a MSSQL Database
	on remote machine
Message-ID: <424b71ec0805060308v68d2cb4elba716fcfa68f19a4@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm trying to create a Sytem DSN which points to a MSSQL Database on remote
machine.

i tried using the following code snip in the following link
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/414879

i customized the script according to my requirements and it got created but
i could not able to access the database.

Here there the thing is while creating a system DSN manually, we can mention
the type of authentication we want to connect to
SQL

Type of credential,
      Either through NT username and password OR Sql username password.

But the code in the link does not support them.

Can you guys help me in this regard.

Thanks a million,
Siddhartha
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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Tue May  6 12:18:52 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 11:18:52 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Create a System DSN which points to a MSSQL
 Database on remote machine
In-Reply-To: <424b71ec0805060308v68d2cb4elba716fcfa68f19a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <424b71ec0805060308v68d2cb4elba716fcfa68f19a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4820308C.30909@timgolden.me.uk>

siddhartha veedaluru wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to create a Sytem DSN which points to a MSSQL Database on remote
> machine.
> 
> i tried using the following code snip in the following link
> http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/414879
> 
> i customized the script according to my requirements and it got created but
> i could not able to access the database.
> 
> Here there the thing is while creating a system DSN manually, we can mention
> the type of authentication we want to connect to
> SQL
> 
> Type of credential,
>       Either through NT username and password OR Sql username password.
> 
> But the code in the link does not support them.

That's what the "TrustedConnection = 'Yes'" thing at the end is doing.

TJG

From Kyle.Rickey at bakerhughes.com  Tue May  6 16:25:50 2008
From: Kyle.Rickey at bakerhughes.com (Rickey, Kyle W)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:25:50 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] DDE AddTopic after server started
Message-ID: <D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D98279A0C@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>

I've got a simple DDE Server running that I would like to add/remove
topics to on the fly.

The reason for doing this is my application uses subprocess to open
other programs which will then communicate back to mine using DDE. The
topic will never be exactly the same though, because the subprocess
expects the topic to be process_name+process_id

For example,

pid = subprocess.Popen(process_name).pid
server = dde.CreateServer()
server.AddTopic(DDE_Topic("wafieldsetup"+str(pid)))

Now, I would like to create one DDE server when I start my application
and as I launch these subprocesses, add/remove topics from the server.
Is this possible? In the code below I've got my DDE server running in a
separate thread. The whole thing will go inside of a wxpython
application.

import win32ui
from pywin.mfc import object
import dde
import threading, pythoncom, time


class DDETopic(object.Object):
	def __init__(self, topicName):
		object.Object.__init__(self, dde.CreateTopic(topicName))

	def Exec(self, cmd):
		print "Other Topic asked to exec", cmd

def test():
	pythoncom.CoInitialize()
	server = dde.CreateServer()
	server.AddTopic(DDETopic("testprocess1234"))
	server.Create('MyServer')
	print "Pumping Messages"
	while 1:
		time.sleep(0.1)
		win32ui.PumpWaitingMessages(0, -1)
		
threading.Thread(target=test).start()

#Launch a subprocess
#Add new topic to server


Is this going to work or do I need to create a new DDE Server for each
subprocess (seems clunky)?

-Kyle Rickey

From le.dahut at laposte.net  Tue May  6 17:10:57 2008
From: le.dahut at laposte.net (le dahut)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 17:10:57 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] Vista and listening sockets
Message-ID: <48207501.5@laposte.net>

Hello,

When launching an app that opens a socket, windows Vista complains that 
I have to accept it before it is launched and then that the firewall 
accepts the opening of the port.

Is there a way to register my app to be launched by users without UAC 
warning ?

Is there a way to open the port on the firewall inside the program or 
its installer ?

Thanks.


From rdahlstrom at directedge.com  Tue May  6 17:24:01 2008
From: rdahlstrom at directedge.com (Dahlstrom, Roger)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 11:24:01 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Vista and listening sockets
In-Reply-To: <48207501.5@laposte.net>
References: <48207501.5@laposte.net>
Message-ID: <68D737040F1D204CA68A38C372141F44CF0FEB@jc1wsmail3.global.knight.com>

One would hope that there is no way to accomplish what you are looking to do.  The user could, however, turn off their security, or register your app to run as
administrator. 

-----Original Message-----
From: python-win32-bounces at python.org [mailto:python-win32-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of le dahut
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:11 AM
To: Python-Win32 List
Subject: [python-win32] Vista and listening sockets

Hello,

When launching an app that opens a socket, windows Vista complains that 
I have to accept it before it is launched and then that the firewall 
accepts the opening of the port.

Is there a way to register my app to be launched by users without UAC 
warning ?

Is there a way to open the port on the firewall inside the program or 
its installer ?

Thanks.

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From timr at probo.com  Tue May  6 19:22:03 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 10:22:03 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Vista and listening sockets
In-Reply-To: <48207501.5@laposte.net>
References: <48207501.5@laposte.net>
Message-ID: <482093BB.8000903@probo.com>

le dahut wrote:
> Hello,
>
> When launching an app that opens a socket, windows Vista complains 
> that I have to accept it before it is launched and then that the 
> firewall accepts the opening of the port.
>
> Is there a way to register my app to be launched by users without UAC 
> warning ?
>
> Is there a way to open the port on the firewall inside the program or 
> its installer ?

You can tweak the firewall settings, but you have to be UAC to do so, 
because you have to write to the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE registry hive.  If 
you have a setup application that has "setup" in the file name, this 
should work.  BTW, this may be the longest registry path you will ever 
encounter:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\
      System\
        CurrentControlSet\
          Services\
            SharedAccess\
              Parameters\
                FirewallPolicy\
                  DomainProfile\
                    AuthorizedApplications\
                      List\

Within that key, create a REG_SZ value whose name is the path to your 
application, whose value is a 4-part string separated by colons:
    <path-to-app>:*:Enabled:<friendly name>

Put the same thing into
                  ...
                  StandardProfile\
                    AuthorizedApplications\
                      List\

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Wed May  7 04:48:02 2008
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 12:48:02 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] Vista and listening sockets
In-Reply-To: <482093BB.8000903@probo.com>
References: <48207501.5@laposte.net> <482093BB.8000903@probo.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c8afec$c53310e0$4f9932a0$@com.au>

Tim wrote:

> You can tweak the firewall settings, but you have to be UAC to do so,
> because you have to write to the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE registry hive. 

Note you can also do it via COM - see
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-win32/2006-May/004694.html (although
I'm quite certain you will still need to be elevated to do so)

Mark


From mc at mclaveau.com  Wed May  7 08:27:22 2008
From: mc at mclaveau.com (Michel Claveau)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 08:27:22 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] Vista and listening sockets
In-Reply-To: <48207501.5@laposte.net>
References: <48207501.5@laposte.net>
Message-ID: <D7D59EB592684CA785A9EB03821CFFE6@MCI1330>

Bonjour !

> Is there a way to register my app to be launched by users without UAC 
> warning ?

J'ai r?alis? un utilitaire, actuellement en b?ta, qui fait les choses 
suivantes :
    - lancer l'utilitaire, UNE SEULE FOIS, en d?but de session (n?cessite 
une validation de l'UAC)
    - l'utilitaire s'appelle  RUNWUAC
    - il s'installe en tant que r?sidant invisible
    - on l'appelle par   {CTRL} ?
    - l'appel ouvre un menu qui permet, soit de lancer des applications, 
soit de lancer une commande. Tous ces lancements sont alors effectu? avec 
?l?vation de privil?ges.
    - t?l?chargement :  http://mclaveau.com/gvrac  (choisir   RUNWUAC)
    - (un peu) plus de renseignement dans l'aide int?gr?e.


> Is there a way to open the port on the firewall inside the program or its 
> installer ?

Il est possible de configurer le parefeu de Vista (ou d'XP), en invite de 
commande, avec  NETSH


AMHA, tout ?a n'est pas li? ? Python.


@-salutations
-- 
Michel Claveau


From le.dahut at laposte.net  Wed May  7 17:02:48 2008
From: le.dahut at laposte.net (le dahut)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 17:02:48 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] ShellExecuteEx
Message-ID: <4821C498.9070809@laposte.net>

Hello,

Still with Vista, when using CreateProcess(...'regedit'...) to 
save/restore some registry keys I get and error 740 "The requested 
operation requires elevation".
According to msdn ShellExecuteEx should be used instead of CreateProcess.

Where Can I find ShellExecuteEx ?
Are there other methods to save/load standard .reg files that "regedit 
/E or /S" ?


From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Thu May  8 03:15:27 2008
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 11:15:27 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] ShellExecuteEx
In-Reply-To: <4821C498.9070809@laposte.net>
References: <4821C498.9070809@laposte.net>
Message-ID: <010101c8b0a9$02896720$079c3560$@com.au>

You can generally get away with just using "ShellExecute" - the trick is to
use "runas" as the verb.  But ShellExecuteEx is in win32com.shell.shell if
you really need its extra capabilities.

Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: python-win32-bounces at python.org [mailto:python-win32-
> bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of le dahut
> Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2008 1:03 AM
> To: Python-Win32 List
> Subject: [python-win32] ShellExecuteEx
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Still with Vista, when using CreateProcess(...'regedit'...) to
> save/restore some registry keys I get and error 740 "The requested
> operation requires elevation".
> According to msdn ShellExecuteEx should be used instead of
> CreateProcess.
> 
> Where Can I find ShellExecuteEx ?
> Are there other methods to save/load standard .reg files that "regedit
> /E or /S" ?
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32


From neharai.nitk at gmail.com  Thu May  8 08:50:12 2008
From: neharai.nitk at gmail.com (neha rai)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 12:20:12 +0530
Subject: [python-win32] how to activate subwindow of the application ???
In-Reply-To: <mailman.11468.1210229232.12833.python-win32@python.org>
References: <mailman.11468.1210229232.12833.python-win32@python.org>
Message-ID: <e308b6270805072350j119adbeahddebf8ecc98bbaaf@mail.gmail.com>

 I am making a tool that needs to open subwindow of another application,
enter some text in it click ok and then open the same window again. i am
able to  put text and click 'OK'  but I am not able to open the same window
again using the python code. I need some thing that can remember what i
opened(or the last window opened) and open it again.
Can anybody help me.

Neha
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From Devendran.Chandra at smartm.com  Thu May  8 12:22:01 2008
From: Devendran.Chandra at smartm.com (Chandra,Devendran)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 18:22:01 +0800
Subject: [python-win32] Simulating a static click on a property under
	SysListView32
Message-ID: <F62F878AC323CD42BBE3CE2C577D92A8045D4140@sr-png-exc01.smartm.internal>

hie everyone,
 
Forgive me if this is repetitive, i did search the archives, but could
not get literature that fits my beginner understanding. I would like to
simulate a static click on a value which falls under the sysListView32
category, but unfortunately i could not locate the commands under
winGuiAuto. I did come across some postings were the has been some
success in doing this. Can anyone help me on this request and share some
insights into doing this?
 
Thank you very much!
 
Rgds,
Devendran
Test Engineering
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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Thu May  8 16:28:34 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 15:28:34 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] how to activate subwindow of the application ???
In-Reply-To: <e308b6270805072350j119adbeahddebf8ecc98bbaaf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.11468.1210229232.12833.python-win32@python.org>
	<e308b6270805072350j119adbeahddebf8ecc98bbaaf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48230E12.1030406@timgolden.me.uk>

neha rai wrote:
>  I am making a tool that needs to open subwindow of another application,
> enter some text in it click ok and then open the same window again. i am
> able to  put text and click 'OK'  but I am not able to open the same window
> again using the python code. I need some thing that can remember what i
> opened(or the last window opened) and open it again.

I'm sorry, but for the life of me I can't work out what you're trying
to do here. Unless someone has better intuition than me and comes
to the rescue, could you post some code to show what's you're doing
and indicate where it doesn't work?

Thanks

TJG

PS If you aren't already, worth looking at WATSUP [1] and PyWinAuto [2]

[1] http://www.tizmoi.net/watsup/intro.html
[2] http://pywinauto.pbwiki.com/

From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Fri May  9 15:32:06 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 14:32:06 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] how to activate subwindow of the application ???
In-Reply-To: <e308b6270805082341vd4af1d5o3253490471427ef2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.11468.1210229232.12833.python-win32@python.org>	<e308b6270805072350j119adbeahddebf8ecc98bbaaf@mail.gmail.com>	<48230E12.1030406@timgolden.me.uk>
	<e308b6270805082341vd4af1d5o3253490471427ef2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48245256.9030204@timgolden.me.uk>

[Copying back to python-win32 list]

Neha: please keep your posts on-list. This will help you
since I'm sure there are other people than me out there
who can help; it will help me, because I don't have time
or the competence to deal with every single query that 
comes up; and it helps anyone else who might be following 
the thread now or in the future to see what happens.

neha rai wrote:
> Hi Tim,
> Thanks for showing interest. due to some reasons i can't post 
> my code but I'll tell you in detail what i am doing.

OK. That's going to make it more difficult. It's remarkably hard
to describe accurately a programming issue with showing the code,
but we'll have a go.

> Tool details:
> 
> * My tool identifies the active window on the screen.
> * identifies all its text boxes.
> * populates a gui on which user can see the present text areas.
> * Asks user to push type of data(digits,alphabets, length of data ets) for
> each text box.
> 
> * creates file for set of input. i.e suppose if in window there are 3 text
> boxes it will create 3 file. and each file will contain 100s of set of input
> varying in length.
> * pushes user defined data in found text boxes by reading from file.
> * and then my tool clicks on the action button(to get the input
> accepted) i.e. in most of the cases is OK.

I hope you've got a good reason for doing things this way: it looks
awfully convoluted!

> Now what is happening, the window gets closed after clicking OK (as it
> should be). what i want to open the same window and push another set of data
> in it.
> So for this purpose i want some thing which can remeber what  window the
> user opened so that it can be opened again. In same window there can be many
> tabs. so something is needed which can open exactly the same page on which
> the user was working.

I'm still not 100%, but presumably whatever piece of code you're running
in the first place (which for various reasons you can't show us) to open
the window can persist whatever pieces of data it needs to open the same
window again. Maybe it's the window class or its hwnd or its name.
I don't understand why, if the program can do this once -- and you seem
to suggest that it can -- that it can't do it again.

I may be being obtuse but I can't really see where the problem lies.
Maybe someone else on the list has a better idea?

TJG

From mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us  Fri May  9 15:37:05 2008
From: mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us (Mike Driscoll)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 08:37:05 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] how to activate subwindow of the application ???
In-Reply-To: <48230E12.1030406@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <mailman.11468.1210229232.12833.python-win32@python.org>	<e308b6270805072350j119adbeahddebf8ecc98bbaaf@mail.gmail.com>
	<48230E12.1030406@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <48245381.8010307@co.marshall.ia.us>

Tim Golden wrote:
> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">neha rai 
> wrote:
>>  I am making a tool that needs to open subwindow of another application,
>> enter some text in it click ok and then open the same window again. i am
>> able to  put text and click 'OK'  but I am not able to open the same 
>> window
>> again using the python code. I need some thing that can remember what i
>> opened(or the last window opened) and open it again.
>
> I'm sorry, but for the life of me I can't work out what you're trying
> to do here. Unless someone has better intuition than me and comes
> to the rescue, could you post some code to show what's you're doing
> and indicate where it doesn't work?
>
> Thanks
>
> TJG
>
> PS If you aren't already, worth looking at WATSUP [1] and PyWinAuto [2]
>
> [1] http://www.tizmoi.net/watsup/intro.html
> [2] http://pywinauto.pbwiki.com/
>
> </div>
Tim,

The OP is probably talking about a window that's part of the 
application, like when you open the Preferences dialog or how some Excel 
versions can allow one to open multiple spreadsheets and minimize them 
within the application.

As to how to manipulate that sort of thing in a pre-made app... I 
haven't the slightest... except maybe SendKeys or the links you gave.

Mike

From sriram.sundararajan at gmail.com  Fri May  9 18:37:58 2008
From: sriram.sundararajan at gmail.com (Sriram Sundararajan)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:37:58 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] Excel - accessing a control's properties in an event
	handler
Message-ID: <beeedbfb0805090937n441a0816yba519fa057ab6fba@mail.gmail.com>

I have a question on the excelAddin.py sample in the win32com\demos folder.

We create a Tool Bar, add a button to it,
btnMyButton = cbcMyBar.Controls.Add(Type=constants.msoControlButton,
Parameter="Greetings")

'register' the button with the ButtonEvent class,
btnMyButton=self.toolbarButton = DispatchWithEvents(btnMyButton, ButtonEvent)

and set a couple of properties.
btnMyButton.Caption = "&Python"
btnMyButton.TooltipText = "Python rules the World"

In the OnClick event handler of the ButtonEvent class,
class ButtonEvent:
    def OnClick(self, button, cancel):

1. How is the 'button' argument related to the actual button that was
clicked? It showed up as a PyIDispatch object when I tried printing
it.

2. Assuming there is more than one button that can  be clicked, how
would I access some of the properties of the button instance that was
actually clicked by the user?

Thanks
Sriram

From neharai.nitk at gmail.com  Mon May 12 07:29:27 2008
From: neharai.nitk at gmail.com (neha rai)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 10:59:27 +0530
Subject: [python-win32] how to activate subwindow of the application ???
In-Reply-To: <48245381.8010307@co.marshall.ia.us>
References: <mailman.11468.1210229232.12833.python-win32@python.org>
	<e308b6270805072350j119adbeahddebf8ecc98bbaaf@mail.gmail.com>
	<48230E12.1030406@timgolden.me.uk>
	<48245381.8010307@co.marshall.ia.us>
Message-ID: <e308b6270805112229y21401451ma58b2d31a87b8723@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Tim and Mike,

As Tim said "whatever piece of code you're running
in the first place to open the window can persist whatever pieces of data it
needs to open the same window again."

First time the window is opened by the user, user can pick any window on
which it needs to work (in my case window are is subwindow of a application)
My code identifies the window by using :
hand=win32gui.GetForegroundWindow()
My code performs action on the window and closes it.. now i want it to open
automatically.


I hope its more clear now..

Please let me know if  any of you have a way to do this.

Thanks
Neha




On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Mike Driscoll <mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us>
wrote:

> Tim Golden wrote:
>
>> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">neha rai
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  I am making a tool that needs to open subwindow of another application,
>>> enter some text in it click ok and then open the same window again. i am
>>> able to  put text and click 'OK'  but I am not able to open the same
>>> window
>>> again using the python code. I need some thing that can remember what i
>>> opened(or the last window opened) and open it again.
>>>
>>
>> I'm sorry, but for the life of me I can't work out what you're trying
>> to do here. Unless someone has better intuition than me and comes
>> to the rescue, could you post some code to show what's you're doing
>> and indicate where it doesn't work?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> TJG
>>
>> PS If you aren't already, worth looking at WATSUP [1] and PyWinAuto [2]
>>
>> [1] http://www.tizmoi.net/watsup/intro.html
>> [2] http://pywinauto.pbwiki.com/
>>
>> </div>
>>
> Tim,
>
> The OP is probably talking about a window that's part of the application,
> like when you open the Preferences dialog or how some Excel versions can
> allow one to open multiple spreadsheets and minimize them within the
> application.
>
> As to how to manipulate that sort of thing in a pre-made app... I haven't
> the slightest... except maybe SendKeys or the links you gave.
>
> Mike
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Mon May 12 10:16:09 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 09:16:09 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] how to activate subwindow of the application ???
In-Reply-To: <e308b6270805112229y21401451ma58b2d31a87b8723@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.11468.1210229232.12833.python-win32@python.org>	
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Message-ID: <4827FCC9.1020904@timgolden.me.uk>

neha rai wrote:
> First time the window is opened by the user, user can pick any window on
> which it needs to work (in my case window are is subwindow of a application)

You're not making life easy here by your varied use of the term "window".

> My code identifies the window by using :
> hand=win32gui.GetForegroundWindow()
> My code performs action on the window and closes it.. now i want it to open
> automatically.

OK. I think I see what you're talking about. You're saying that you are, in
some way, monitoring an application. Within the app the user
performs <Action X> (pressing a button, selecting a menu, etc) which
activates some window, perhaps a dialog box? They do whatever they do 
and finally take some other action which closes the window. You know what 
the window handle was but you don't know how to reopen it? Am I right?

I think you're stuck. In the absence of any code from your end, it's
nearly impossible to determine what the sequence of events is, and
it's not going to be easy to guess what action to take to initiate an
arbitrary window.

I'm assuming the application isn't one you control. You could, perhaps,
do *very* messy and low-level things like installing a message hook [1]
and attempting to infer what command or message initiated the window.
But I suspect from the level of your questions that you're in deep enough
as it is and I think you'd be out of your depth there.

TJG

[1] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms632589(VS.85).aspx

From siddhartha.veedaluru at gmail.com  Mon May 12 12:30:31 2008
From: siddhartha.veedaluru at gmail.com (siddhartha veedaluru)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:00:31 +0530
Subject: [python-win32] Create a System DSN which points to a MSSQL
	Database on Remote Machine
Message-ID: <424b71ec0805120330t435fb683o8fc4c8b81de19358@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks tim,

But when i give user and pass information it is not able to create  the dsn
It is default local system user name and creating, which fails connecting to
database.

i gave the user information as following:
"SQL Server", SERVER="SQLSVR01",DESCRIPTION="MS SQL Server DSN",
DSN="MyDSN", DATABASE="Testing",uid="sa",pwd="sysadmin"):
if uid and pwd is not given then it creates the DSN with logged in user as
username.

Thanks a million,
Siddharrtha
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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Mon May 12 12:40:27 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 11:40:27 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Create a System DSN which points to a
 MSSQL	Database on Remote Machine
In-Reply-To: <424b71ec0805120330t435fb683o8fc4c8b81de19358@mail.gmail.com>
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siddhartha veedaluru wrote:
> But when i give user and pass information it is not able to create  the dsn
> It is default local system user name and creating, which fails connecting to
> database.
> 
> i gave the user information as following:
> "SQL Server", SERVER="SQLSVR01",DESCRIPTION="MS SQL Server DSN",
> DSN="MyDSN", DATABASE="Testing",uid="sa",pwd="sysadmin"):
> if uid and pwd is not given then it creates the DSN with logged in user as
> username.

Siddharrtha, the most useful thing you can do at this point is to post
some code, ideally with a traceback if one occurs. I'm finding it a little
difficult to understand what you're doing.

To take this forward, perhaps, the following code fragments use the 
pyodbc [1] module to connect to an MSSQL server with passthrough
authentication and with a specific username / password. I'm not
clear whether you're trying to do the same thing or something else,
but at least it'll provide a starting point for discussion :)

<code>
import pyodbc

def connection (server, database, username="", password="", **kwargs):
  connectors = ["Driver={SQL Server}"]
  connectors.append ("Server=%s" % server)
  connectors.append ("Database=%s" % database)
  if username:
      connectors.append ("UID=%s" % username)
      connectors.append ("PWD=%s" % password)
  else:
      connectors.append ("TrustedConnection=Yes")
  return pyodbc.connect (";".join (connectors), **kwargs)

db1 = connection ("SVR", "DB") # use passthrough authentication
db2 = connection ("SVR", "DB", "sa", "password") # use specific credentials

</code>

[1] http://pyodbc.sourceforge.net/

From rwupole at msn.com  Mon May 12 14:03:01 2008
From: rwupole at msn.com (Roger Upole)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:03:01 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Excel - accessing a control's properties in an event
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1071026CE3AC8D2CD81D6CA3CC0@phx.gbl>


Sriram Sundararajan wrote:
>I have a question on the excelAddin.py sample in the win32com\demos folder.
>
> We create a Tool Bar, add a button to it,
> btnMyButton = cbcMyBar.Controls.Add(Type=constants.msoControlButton,
> Parameter="Greetings")
>
> 'register' the button with the ButtonEvent class,
> btnMyButton=self.toolbarButton = DispatchWithEvents(btnMyButton,
> ButtonEvent)
>
> and set a couple of properties.
> btnMyButton.Caption = "&Python"
> btnMyButton.TooltipText = "Python rules the World"
>
> In the OnClick event handler of the ButtonEvent class,
> class ButtonEvent:
>    def OnClick(self, button, cancel):
>
> 1. How is the 'button' argument related to the actual button that was
> clicked? It showed up as a PyIDispatch object when I tried printing
> it.
> 2. Assuming there is more than one button that can  be clicked, how
> would I access some of the properties of the button instance that was
> actually clicked by the user?
>
> Thanks
> Sriram

You can use win32com.client.Dispatch(button) to get a wrapped
object that exposes all the properties of the button.
This will allow you to access the Caption, TooltipText, or any
other property you need to identify the button.

               Roger



From antonyjoseph89 at gmail.com  Tue May 13 08:37:22 2008
From: antonyjoseph89 at gmail.com (Antony Joseph)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:07:22 +0530
Subject: [python-win32] Hide the console as soon as the script starts.
Message-ID: <f14c4c340805122337n5f293466g528a0fd68f1bb90a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi ,
          I am trying to hide the console as soon as the script starts  and
display console window to System Tray .
Could someone point me to any links.

Thanks
Antony
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From graemeglass at gmail.com  Tue May 13 08:55:53 2008
From: graemeglass at gmail.com (Graeme Glass)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 08:55:53 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] Hide the console as soon as the script starts.
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On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Antony Joseph <antonyjoseph89 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi ,
>           I am trying to hide the console as soon as the script starts
> and display console window to System Tray .
> Could someone point me to any links.
>
> Thanks
> Antony


Execute your script with pythonw.exe
For more info:

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pythonwin32/chapter/ch20.html

HTH,
Graeme
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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Tue May 13 09:46:39 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 08:46:39 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] how to activate subwindow of the application ???
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[copying back to list and rearranging slightly] 
>> neha rai wrote:
>>> First time the window is opened by the user, user can pick any window on
>>> which it needs to work (in my case window are is subwindow of a
>>> application)

[Tim Golden]
>> I think you're stuck. In the absence of any code from your end, it's
>> nearly impossible to determine what the sequence of events is, and
>> it's not going to be easy to guess what action to take to initiate an
>> arbitrary window. [... snip link to system hooks documentation ...]

neha rai wrote:
> yeah.. you got my problem. But its really sad to know that there is now way
> out... i too visited the link you sent.. but you were right it becomes very
> messy for me.

Can I suggest, if you haven't already done so, that you take the query to
one of the Windows programming newsgroups / forums etc.? It's really a
Windows question rather than a Python one as such. Try describing the
requirement on one of those groups and if they come up with a solution
in Microsoft terms, bring it back here and we'll see how readily it can
translate into Python.

TJG

From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Tue May 13 10:51:57 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:51:57 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Hide the console as soon as the script starts.
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Antony Joseph wrote:
> I am trying to hide the console as soon as the script starts  and
> display console window to System Tray .
> Could someone point me to any links.

An example of running a taskbar app comes with the pywin32
demos. On my machine it's located at:

C:\Python25\Lib\site-packages\win32\Demos\win32gui_taskbar.py

TJG

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From python at bdurham.com  Tue May 13 13:47:15 2008
From: python at bdurham.com (python at bdurham.com)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 07:47:15 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Hide the console as soon as the script starts.
In-Reply-To: <482956AD.3070005@timgolden.me.uk>
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	<482956AD.3070005@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <1210679235.19886.1252882157@webmail.messagingengine.com>

Antony,

If you're just trying to hide the console Window, rename your python
script with a *.pyw file extension or launch it via pythonw.exe vs.
python.exe.

I have no idea how to have a Python application display an icon in the
System Tray (vs. Taskbar). That's a very interesting question.

Malcolm

From ionel.mc at gmail.com  Tue May 13 18:09:15 2008
From: ionel.mc at gmail.com (Ionel Maries Cristian)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 19:09:15 +0300
Subject: [python-win32] Need reviews for a patch in win32file for
	TransmitFile and ConnectEx
Message-ID: <b322b4e60805130909g16b52a78l4c7bd4e9b8ed734f@mail.gmail.com>

the patches are tracked here:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1962146&group_id=78018&atid=551956
and here:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1937527&group_id=78018&atid=551956

mark hammond requested that i post them here (he's a bit busy)

as notes on the ConnectEx call:
- one needs to get the pointer to the ConnectEx from the socket via a
WSAIoctl call and i'm going the safe way and getting the pointer every time
(sadly the msdn docs don't say if we always get the same pointer - suppose
we use ConnectEx with ip v4 and v6 sockets and the pointer could be
different)
- i'm using a getaddrinfo to convert the (host,port) tuple to a addrinfo
struct

I've included some testcases for the 2 patches on the bugtracker
(test_connectex.py, test_transmitfile.py)

-- 
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From sriram.sundararajan at gmail.com  Tue May 13 19:49:47 2008
From: sriram.sundararajan at gmail.com (Sriram Sundararajan)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 11:49:47 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] Excel - accessing a control's properties in an
	event
Message-ID: <beeedbfb0805131049h131c5328o345a1a4050b9ad55@mail.gmail.com>

>  Sriram Sundararajan wrote:
>  >I have a question on the excelAddin.py sample in the win32com\demos folder.
>  >
>  > We create a Tool Bar, add a button to it,
>  > btnMyButton = cbcMyBar.Controls.Add(Type=constants.msoControlButton,
>  > Parameter="Greetings")
>  >
>  > 'register' the button with the ButtonEvent class,
>  > btnMyButton=self.toolbarButton = DispatchWithEvents(btnMyButton,
>  > ButtonEvent)
>  >
>  > and set a couple of properties.
>  > btnMyButton.Caption = "&Python"
>  > btnMyButton.TooltipText = "Python rules the World"
>  >
>  > In the OnClick event handler of the ButtonEvent class,
>  > class ButtonEvent:
>  >    def OnClick(self, button, cancel):
>  >
>  > 1. How is the 'button' argument related to the actual button that was
>  > clicked? It showed up as a PyIDispatch object when I tried printing
>  > it.
>  > 2. Assuming there is more than one button that can  be clicked, how
>  > would I access some of the properties of the button instance that was
>  > actually clicked by the user?
>  >
>  > Thanks
>  > Sriram
>
>  You can use win32com.client.Dispatch(button) to get a wrapped
>  object that exposes all the properties of the button.
>  This will allow you to access the Caption, TooltipText, or any
>  other property you need to identify the button.
>
>                Roger
Roger,
Thanks for the answer. I could've sworn I tried that.. but it works
like a charm now!

Sriram

From rwupole at msn.com  Tue May 13 19:53:56 2008
From: rwupole at msn.com (Roger Upole)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 13:53:56 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Need reviews for a patch in win32file for
	TransmitFile and ConnectEx
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP303F4D8C70C521753F4D5DA3CF0@phx.gbl>

Ionel Maries Cristian wrote:
> the patches are tracked here:
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1962146&group_id=78018&atid=551956
> and here:
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1937527&group_id=78018&atid=551956
>
> mark hammond requested that i post them here (he's a bit busy)
>
> as notes on the ConnectEx call:
> - one needs to get the pointer to the ConnectEx from the socket via a
> WSAIoctl call and i'm going the safe way and getting the pointer every
> time
> (sadly the msdn docs don't say if we always get the same pointer - suppose
> we use ConnectEx with ip v4 and v6 sockets and the pointer could be
> different)
> - i'm using a getaddrinfo to convert the (host,port) tuple to a addrinfo
> struct
>
> I've included some testcases for the 2 patches on the bugtracker
> (test_connectex.py, test_transmitfile.py)
>

A couple of things in the ConnectEx function:

    The XDECREF of obBuf is unnecessary, and can cause a crash.

    The buffer size is a DWORD, but you're passing a Py_ssize_t.which is
    larger when compiled for 64-bit.  You can use
    PyWinObject_AsReadBuffer to convert a buffer with a DWORD length.
    It will also handle None for you, which allows you to simply initialize
    obBuf  to Py_None instead of NULL.

    Also, the entire output section can be simplified to:
        rv=Py_BuildValue("ii", rc, sent)

             Roger





From otaeris at o2.pl  Wed May 14 13:21:49 2008
From: otaeris at o2.pl (otaeris at o2.pl)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 13:21:49 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] =?utf-8?q?Attaching_Menu_to_Any_App?=
In-Reply-To: <011101c8b5a8$f9b019a0$ed104ce0$@com.au>
References: <3bb293d7.628b5f16.482ab0be.b7341@o2.pl>
	<011101c8b5a8$f9b019a0$ed104ce0$@com.au>
Message-ID: <6f090516.3760cce2.482acb4d.ede11@o2.pl>

Hi,

I'm having problem with attaching a subMenu to an application MenuBar. SubMenu is there, hanging from the MenuBar but it doesn't send/respond to any events. 
How can I get events either by pywin32 or wxpython ?

There is great example sitting here :C:\Python25\Lib\site-packages\win32\Demos\win32gui_taskbar.py

This example is great but how to, instead of using Shell_NotifyIcon(NIM_ADD, nid) connect submenu it to application menubar ?


Regards,
CgBartek 

From otaeris at o2.pl  Wed May 14 13:23:09 2008
From: otaeris at o2.pl (otaeris at o2.pl)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 13:23:09 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] =?utf-8?q?Attaching_AubMenu_to_Any_Apps_MenuBar?=
Message-ID: <7484095e.3f15e2f0.482acb9d.b345@o2.pl>

Hi,

I'm having problem with attaching a subMenu to an application MenuBar.
SubMenu is there, hanging from the MenuBar but it doesn't send/respond to any
events. 
How can I get events either by pywin32 or wxpython ?

There is great example sitting here
:C:\Python25\Lib\site-packages\win32\Demos\win32gui_taskbar.py

This example is great but how to, instead of using Shell_NotifyIcon(NIM_ADD,
nid) connect submenu it to application menubar ?


Regards,
CgBartek 


From timr at probo.com  Wed May 14 18:59:51 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:59:51 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Attaching Menu to Any App
In-Reply-To: <6f090516.3760cce2.482acb4d.ede11@o2.pl>
References: <3bb293d7.628b5f16.482ab0be.b7341@o2.pl>	<011101c8b5a8$f9b019a0$ed104ce0$@com.au>
	<6f090516.3760cce2.482acb4d.ede11@o2.pl>
Message-ID: <482B1A87.4040209@probo.com>

otaeris at o2.pl wrote:
> I'm having problem with attaching a subMenu to an application MenuBar. SubMenu is there, hanging from the MenuBar but it doesn't send/respond to any events. 
> How can I get events either by pywin32 or wxpython ?
>
> There is great example sitting here :C:\Python25\Lib\site-packages\win32\Demos\win32gui_taskbar.py
>
> This example is great but how to, instead of using Shell_NotifyIcon(NIM_ADD, nid) connect submenu it to application menubar ?
>   

Are you talking about attaching to a menu in another application?  That 
requires hooking.  You actually have to inject a DLL of your own into 
the code space of the owning process, then override that window's 
windowproc so that you can intercept its window messages.

I would arrogantly assert that this is not possible in Python, although 
I'm sure one of the gurus will be happy to contradict me.  If it were 
me, I would write a small DLL in C to do the hooking and subclass the 
window, then come up with some kind of communication scheme back to my 
Python application.

If I have misunderstood your request, then please excuse me.  What are 
you planning to do in this menu handler?

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From siddhartha.veedaluru at gmail.com  Thu May 15 09:47:41 2008
From: siddhartha.veedaluru at gmail.com (siddhartha veedaluru)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:17:41 +0530
Subject: [python-win32] Will wmi can a command on remore host and get
	the return code
Message-ID: <424b71ec0805150047h5e324353oee9816f16cbd75c6@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

i'm tring to execute a exe that is placed in the mapped network drive on
remote machine
it seems it is not getting recognised.

How can i run the exe on the mapped network drive

Thanks,
Siddhartha
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From bgailer at gmail.com  Thu May 15 13:02:59 2008
From: bgailer at gmail.com (bob gailer)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 07:02:59 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Will wmi can a command on remore host and get
 the return code
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References: <424b71ec0805150047h5e324353oee9816f16cbd75c6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <482C1863.30804@gmail.com>

siddhartha veedaluru wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> i'm tring to execute a exe that is placed in the mapped network drive 
> on remote machine
> it seems it is not getting recognised.
>  
> How can i run the exe on the mapped network drive
>  
Aw come on .... I'd think by now you'd know how to ask a question.

-- 
Bob Gailer
919-636-4239 Chapel Hill, NC


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Thu May 15 13:04:26 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 12:04:26 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Will wmi can a command on remore host and get
 the return code
In-Reply-To: <424b71ec0805150047h5e324353oee9816f16cbd75c6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <424b71ec0805150047h5e324353oee9816f16cbd75c6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <482C18BA.2050406@timgolden.me.uk>

siddhartha veedaluru wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> i'm tring to execute a exe that is placed in the mapped network drive on
> remote machine
> it seems it is not getting recognised.
> 
> How can i run the exe on the mapped network drive

Please post some code -- and any traceback -- so we can see what 
you're doing.

Thanks
TJG

From otaeris at o2.pl  Thu May 15 13:21:04 2008
From: otaeris at o2.pl (otaeris at o2.pl)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:21:04 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] =?utf-8?q?Attaching_Menu_to_Any_App?=
In-Reply-To: <482B1A87.4040209@probo.com>
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	<011101c8b5a8$f9b019a0$ed104ce0$@com.au>
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Message-ID: <6f3c956b.13c8376a.482c1ca0.44261@o2.pl>

Hello Tim,

Thanks for your answer. 
Yes, this is exactly what I want to acomplish.
Application i'm working on is going to be called from that menu. Plan is to attach it automatically to some apps through running service or some process. 
I red a lot about hooking WinApi but I don't realy know C that much. Writing a simple DLL sounds really easy.
How do you mean subclassing a window  and overtwritting windowproc can be done in python ?

Regards,
CgBartek 
> Are you talking about attaching to a menu in another application?  That 
> requires hooking.  You actually have to inject a DLL of your own into 
> the code space of the owning process, then override that window's 
> windowproc so that you can intercept its window messages.
> 
> I would arrogantly assert that this is not possible in Python, although 
> I'm sure one of the gurus will be happy to contradict me.  If it were 
> me, I would write a small DLL in C to do the hooking and subclass the 
> window, then come up with some kind of communication scheme back to my 
> Python application.
> 
> If I have misunderstood your request, then please excuse me.  What are 
> you planning to do in this menu handler?
> 
> -- 
> Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
> Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32


From siddhartha.veedaluru at gmail.com  Thu May 15 13:23:17 2008
From: siddhartha.veedaluru at gmail.com (siddhartha veedaluru)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:53:17 +0530
Subject: [python-win32] python-win32 Digest, Vol 62, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <mailman.51.1210845617.19004.python-win32@python.org>
References: <mailman.51.1210845617.19004.python-win32@python.org>
Message-ID: <424b71ec0805150423u15d50f5clde9f7a51b3f06663@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Sorry about the confusing question.

Here is what i want to achieve

i have certain updates that i need to install on different machines
These updates are placed in a location and is mapped to all the machines
There will be an exe file say "InstallUpdate.exe" for every update.

i need to run this exe on all the machines.
i tried running the exe using the following code
<code>

import wmi, os.path, time
connection = wmi.connect_server (server="orcl", user="Administrator",
password="boss")
c = wmi.WMI (wmi=connection)
pid, result = c.Win32_Process.Create(r'cmd /c Z:\update01\InstallUpdate.exe
> C:\sid.txt')
if result != 0:
    print "Update installation failed"
else:
    print "Update installation Suceeded"

<code>

Now i couldn't able to run InstallUpdate.exe as this is on Mapped drive.
If i copy the same update to local drive on the remote machine and run it,
its installing.

1) what should be added here inorder to run it from Mapped drive.
2) Also is there any way i get back the result of the command executed or i
can only redirect it to a file.

Thanks,
Siddhartha
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From bgailer at gmail.com  Thu May 15 13:53:01 2008
From: bgailer at gmail.com (bob gailer)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 07:53:01 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] python-win32 Digest, Vol 62, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <424b71ec0805150423u15d50f5clde9f7a51b3f06663@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.51.1210845617.19004.python-win32@python.org>
	<424b71ec0805150423u15d50f5clde9f7a51b3f06663@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <482C241D.3040909@gmail.com>

siddhartha veedaluru wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> Sorry about the confusing question.
>  
Thank you. This feels a LOT better. Now we can help.
> Here is what i want to achieve
>  
> i have certain updates that i need to install on different machines
> These updates are placed in a location and is mapped to all the machines
> There will be an exe file say "InstallUpdate.exe" for every update.
>  
> i need to run this exe on all the machines.
> i tried running the exe using the following code
> <code>
>  
> import wmi, os.path, time
> connection = wmi.connect_server (server="orcl", user="Administrator", 
> password="boss")
> c = wmi.WMI (wmi=connection)
> pid, result = c.Win32_Process.Create(r'cmd 
> /c Z:\update01\InstallUpdate.exe > C:\sid.txt')
> if result != 0:
>     print "Update installation failed"
> else:
>     print "Update installation Suceeded"
>  
> <code>

Why not just use subprocess.Popen?
>  
> Now i couldn't able to run InstallUpdate.exe as this is on Mapped drive.
> If i copy the same update to local drive on the remote machine and run 
> it, its installing.
>  
> 1) what should be added here inorder to run it from Mapped drive.
> 2) Also is there any way i get back the result of the command executed 
> or i can only redirect it to a file.
>  
> Thanks,
> Siddhartha
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>
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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Thu May 15 15:01:45 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:01:45 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] python-win32 Digest, Vol 62, Issue 13
In-Reply-To: <424b71ec0805150423u15d50f5clde9f7a51b3f06663@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.51.1210845617.19004.python-win32@python.org>
	<424b71ec0805150423u15d50f5clde9f7a51b3f06663@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <482C3439.1010501@timgolden.me.uk>

siddhartha veedaluru wrote:
> Sorry about the confusing question.

Your rewording is a lot clearer. Thanks.

> Here is what i want to achieve
> 
> i have certain updates that i need to install on different machines
> These updates are placed in a location and is mapped to all the machines

While I think I know what you mean, the last part of this
sentence actually doesn't make very much sense. You
can share a folder on a Windows machine and you can
access that shared folder from another Windows machine,
but the concept of mapping [a drive] is a logon-specific
one. The machine doesn't have a drive mapping: a user does.

> There will be an exe file say "InstallUpdate.exe" for every update.
> 
> i need to run this exe on all the machines.
> i tried running the exe using the following code

[... snip code ...]

The simplest thing, assuming that the orcl\Administrator account
has both share-security and file-security access to the .exe
is to use the UNC location, which bypasses the issues of drive
mapping.

As a second hint, there's no need to do the two-line dance
to connect to the remote server with credentials. The WMI
module can do that for you.

<rewritten code - untested>
import wmi

c = wmi.WMI ("orcl", user="Administrator", password="boss")
command = r"cmd /c \\svr\share\update01\installupdate.exe > c:\sid.txt"
pid, result = c.Win32_Process.Create (CommandLine=cmd)

if result != 0:
  print "Update failed with", result
else:
  print "Update succeeded"

</rewritten code>

Note that the signature of the Win32_Process.Create method...

<snippet>
import wmi
print wmi.WMI ().Win32_Process.Create
</snippet>

... suggests that you need SeAssignPrimaryToken and SeIncreaseQuotaPrivilege
enabled. It may be that the session will have these anyway, but if not you'll
need to specify them as part of the connection.

> 2) Also is there any way i get back the result of the command executed or i
> can only redirect it to a file.

I *think* you'll have to redirect it out. Obviously you could redirect it to
a log file on the shared updates server, perhaps qualified by the server
name ("orcl") or some other unique identifier.

TJG

From mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us  Thu May 15 15:05:36 2008
From: mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us (Mike Driscoll)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 08:05:36 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Will wmi can a command on remore host and get
 the return code
In-Reply-To: <424b71ec0805150047h5e324353oee9816f16cbd75c6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <424b71ec0805150047h5e324353oee9816f16cbd75c6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <482C3520.4050109@co.marshall.ia.us>

siddhartha veedaluru wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> i'm tring to execute a exe that is placed in the mapped network drive 
> on remote machine
> it seems it is not getting recognised.
>  
> How can i run the exe on the mapped network drive
>  
> Thanks,
> Siddhartha

I would use the subprocess module.

<code>

import subprocess

# replace C:\ with map drive letter or use UNC path
subprocess.Popen(r'C:\path\to\exe')


</code>

Mike

From timr at probo.com  Thu May 15 19:33:17 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 10:33:17 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Attaching Menu to Any App
In-Reply-To: <6f3c956b.13c8376a.482c1ca0.44261@o2.pl>
References: <3bb293d7.628b5f16.482ab0be.b7341@o2.pl>	<011101c8b5a8$f9b019a0$ed104ce0$@com.au>	<6f090516.3760cce2.482acb4d.ede11@o2.pl>
	<482B1A87.4040209@probo.com>
	<6f3c956b.13c8376a.482c1ca0.44261@o2.pl>
Message-ID: <482C73DD.2030600@probo.com>

otaeris at o2.pl wrote:
> Thanks for your answer. 
> Yes, this is exactly what I want to acomplish.
> Application i'm working on is going to be called from that menu. Plan is to attach it automatically to some apps through running service or some process. 
>   

This seems like a silly thing to do.  What menu are you going to insert 
yourself in?  As a Windows user, I do not expect to access third-party 
applications via the standard menus in other applications.  There are 
better ways to do that.  If you need an application to be easily 
available at any time, the right thing to do is to set up a keyboard 
shortcut.  For example, I wrote a "while you were out" application for 
our office that we all use for taking telephone messages.  I create the 
icon with a shortcut of Alt-Shift-W, and now I can bring it up at any 
time, no matter what application is currently running.

> I red a lot about hooking WinApi but I don't realy know C that much. Writing a simple DLL sounds really easy.
>   

Well, I wouldn't say it's "easy".  It's not a lot of code, but it is 
tricky code.   You always have to remind yourself that "this function is 
running in someone else's process."  That means, among other things, you 
can't use malloc and free, because you don't know what run-time library 
is available.

> How do you mean subclassing a window and overtwritting windowproc can be done in python ?
>   

What *I* said was that it could NOT be done in pure Python, but I was 
expecting Mark Hammond or Tim Golden to contradict me in such a 
pessimistic statement.  ;)

A group at the University of North Carolina has developed several Python 
packages for automating access to and control of other Windows 
applications.  You might take a look through here:
    http://www.cs.unc.edu/Research/assist/developer.shtml

Their pyAA package seems to allow you to intercept events from another 
window.  However, that still won't allow you to modify their menus.  For 
that, I'm still convinced you'll need a C application.

I think you could do what you need with a WH_MSGFILTER hook.  This gets 
called every time a menu event happens (among other places).  You would 
figure out whether the message was for a menu that was opening, and if 
it was, add yourself to the menu, and subclass the window.  Then, when 
the menu closes, you could undo the subclass and remove yourself from 
the menu.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Thu May 15 21:12:47 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 20:12:47 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Attaching Menu to Any App
In-Reply-To: <482C73DD.2030600@probo.com>
References: <3bb293d7.628b5f16.482ab0be.b7341@o2.pl>	<011101c8b5a8$f9b019a0$ed104ce0$@com.au>	<6f090516.3760cce2.482acb4d.ede11@o2.pl>	<482B1A87.4040209@probo.com>	<6f3c956b.13c8376a.482c1ca0.44261@o2.pl>
	<482C73DD.2030600@probo.com>
Message-ID: <482C8B2F.30902@timgolden.me.uk>

Tim Roberts wrote:
> What *I* said was that it could NOT be done in pure Python, but I was 
> expecting Mark Hammond or Tim Golden to contradict me in such a 
> pessimistic statement.  ;)

I was trying to hold back from a tirade of pointing
out how foolish an idea this was. Why is it that people
(a) want to to do intrusive things with other people's
interfaces? and (b) want it to be easy and risk-free?

(sigh)

Tim

From mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us  Thu May 15 22:14:40 2008
From: mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us (Mike Driscoll)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:14:40 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Problem creating a shortcut
Message-ID: <482C99B0.3090805@co.marshall.ia.us>

Hi,

I've had this niggling issue from time to time. I want to create a
shortcut on the user's desktop to a website that specifically loads
Firefox even if Firefox is not the default browser.

I usually use COM as it allows very specific settings of the shortcut,
such as the Working Directory and the Target Path. However, the
following will not work for some reason:

<code>

import win32com.client
import winshell

shell = win32com.client.Dispatch('WScript.Shell')
userDesktop = winshell.desktop()

shortcut = shell.CreateShortCut(userDesktop + '\\MyShortcut.lnk')
shortcut.Targetpath = r'"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
https:\www.myCompanyWebsite.com\ 
<http://www.myCompanyWebsite.com%5C>auth\preauth.php'
shortcut.WorkingDirectory = r'C:\Program Files\Mozilla
Firefox'
shortcut.save()

</code>

This creates the following target path (which doesn't work for obvious 
reasons) in the shortcut's Target Path. The extra "C:\" is getting in 
there somehow...

"C:\"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" https:
\www.myCompanyWebsite.com\ 
<http://www.myCompanyWebsite.com%5C>auth\preauth.php"

If I leave the website off the TargetPath, it works. If I take the path 
to Firefox
out of the TargetPath, it works too. Is there another method I can use 
other than
creating the shortcut by hand and using the shutil module?

Thank you for any ideas.

Mike


From rwupole at msn.com  Thu May 15 22:36:36 2008
From: rwupole at msn.com (Roger Upole)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:36:36 -0400
Subject: [python-win32]  Problem creating a shortcut
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP700F0E61345FC12188992A3C90@phx.gbl>

Mike Driscoll wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've had this niggling issue from time to time. I want to create a
> shortcut on the user's desktop to a website that specifically loads
> Firefox even if Firefox is not the default browser.
> 
> I usually use COM as it allows very specific settings of the shortcut,
> such as the Working Directory and the Target Path. However, the
> following will not work for some reason:
> 
> <code>
> 
> import win32com.client
> import winshell
> 
> shell = win32com.client.Dispatch('WScript.Shell')
> userDesktop = winshell.desktop()
> 
> shortcut = shell.CreateShortCut(userDesktop + '\\MyShortcut.lnk')
> shortcut.Targetpath = r'"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
> https:\www.myCompanyWebsite.com\ 
> <http://www.myCompanyWebsite.com%5C>auth\preauth.php'
> shortcut.WorkingDirectory = r'C:\Program Files\Mozilla
> Firefox'
> shortcut.save()
> 
> </code>
> 
> This creates the following target path (which doesn't work for obvious 
> reasons) in the shortcut's Target Path. The extra "C:\" is getting in 
> there somehow...
> 
> "C:\"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" https:
> \www.myCompanyWebsite.com\ 
> <http://www.myCompanyWebsite.com%5C>auth\preauth.php"
> 
> If I leave the website off the TargetPath, it works. If I take the path 
> to Firefox
> out of the TargetPath, it works too. Is there another method I can use 
> other than
> creating the shortcut by hand and using the shutil module?
> 
> Thank you for any ideas.
> 
> Mike

I think you need to put the URL in shortcut.Arguments rather than
appending it to the executable path.

          Roger


From timr at probo.com  Thu May 15 23:22:54 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:22:54 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Problem creating a shortcut
In-Reply-To: <482C99B0.3090805@co.marshall.ia.us>
References: <482C99B0.3090805@co.marshall.ia.us>
Message-ID: <482CA9AE.1080004@probo.com>

Mike Driscoll wrote:
>
> I've had this niggling issue from time to time. I want to create a
> shortcut on the user's desktop to a website that specifically loads
> Firefox even if Firefox is not the default browser.
> ...
> shortcut = shell.CreateShortCut(userDesktop + '\\MyShortcut.lnk')
> shortcut.Targetpath = r'"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
> https:\www.myCompanyWebsite.com\ 
> <http://www.myCompanyWebsite.com%5C>auth\preauth.php'
> shortcut.WorkingDirectory = r'C:\Program Files\Mozilla
> Firefox'
> shortcut.save()
>
> </code>

Do you understand that it is not safe to assume that Firefox lives in 
"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox"?  I often override my application 
install directories to keep the paths short, so I put it in 
"C:\Apps\Firefox".  Plus, the "Program Files" path name is localized on 
the international versions of Windows.

You'll need to dig in the registry, in 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Mozilla\Mozilla Firefox.  Fetch the 
"CurrentVersion" string value, then look inside that key, in Main, and 
fetch the PathToExe string.  Something like this:

ffkey = _winreg.OpenKey( _winreg.HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, 
'SOFTWARE\\Mozilla\\Mozilla Firefox')
ffver = _winreg.QueryValueEx( ffkey, 'CurrentVersion' )[0]
print ffver
ffmainkey = _winreg.OpenKey( ffkey, sub + "\\Main" )
ffpath = _winreg.QueryValueEx( ffmainkey, 'PathToExe' )[0]
_winreg.CloseKey( ffkey )
_winreg.CloseKey( ffmainkey )

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Fri May 16 01:45:54 2008
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:45:54 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] Problem creating a shortcut
In-Reply-To: <482CA9AE.1080004@probo.com>
References: <482C99B0.3090805@co.marshall.ia.us> <482CA9AE.1080004@probo.com>
Message-ID: <009d01c8b6e5$d0cb4e90$7261ebb0$@com.au>

Tim wrote:

> Plus, the "Program Files" path name is localized on
> the international versions of Windows.

Obviously Tim is correct that you can't assume FF is in Program Files, but
if you really did want the Program Files dir for other reasons, the way to
get it is:

>>> from win32com.shell import shell, shellcon
>>> shell.SHGetSpecialFolderPath(0, shellcon.CSIDL_PROGRAM_FILES)
u'C:\\Program Files'
>>>

Also, IIRC, shortcuts can include environment strings, so specifying
"%ProgramFiles%" in the target might also work (but again, only if you are
sure you really want Program Files :)

Mark


From tnelson at onresolve.com  Thu May 15 17:17:28 2008
From: tnelson at onresolve.com (Trent Nelson)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:17:28 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] [OT] Anyone happen to know the system-wide limit of
 HANDLEs in Windows 2000 Server?
Message-ID: <6167796BFEB5D0438720AC212E89A6B0078657BB@exchange.onresolve.com>

I'm debugging a weird/sporadic COM/ActiveX error with an application on a client's site that's recently been 'migrated' to Citrix Metaframe on Windows 2000 Server.  I'm starting to think we may be hitting the system-wide limit for how many HANDLEs can be created across all processes every so often, which always causes weird and wonderful behaviour.

However, I can't remember what the system-wide limit is, and stfw'ing didn't turn up any clues.  I recall reading something in a GDI programming book recently where the author used brute force to demonstrate that the system limit was around X handles -- but I can't remember what X was, I think it was around 43,000, but I'm not sure.

Anyone here happen to know off the top of their head?

    Trent.

From rwupole at msn.com  Fri May 16 03:09:45 2008
From: rwupole at msn.com (Roger Upole)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 21:09:45 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Need reviews for a patch in win32file for
	TransmitFile and ConnectEx
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP267D6A25DFE18D435FEAAFA3C80@phx.gbl>

One other thing, TransmitFile isn't checking the return value.
It should probably do something like ConnectEx does,
ie call WSAGetLastError and raise an exception for
anything other than ERROR_IO_PENDING.

        Roger


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Fri May 16 13:09:46 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 12:09:46 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Problem creating a shortcut
Message-ID: <482D6B7A.6040808@timgolden.me.uk>

Sorry, missed this one going through. Looks like
Roger's hit the nail on the head, though. Bizarre
behaviour by the IShellLink interface: I can't find
any kind of reference to this but I assume that
since the Path attribute of the link should *only*
contain an executable, there's no need for the
quotes -- which then confuse it when they're there
as it tries to make the executable into an absolute
path.

One small comment, Mike. Since you're using the
winshell module -- which I assume is the one from
my site -- why not use its CreateShortcut function?
It's basically just a light wrapper around the IShellLink
functionality which someone else mentioned:

<code>
import os, sys
import winshell

winshell.CreateShortcut (
 Path=os.path.join (winshell.desktop (), "shortcut.lnk"),
 Target=r"c:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe",
 Arguments="http://localhost",
 Description="Open http://localhost with Firefox"
)

</code>

But maybe you're using the WScript.Shell functionality
elsewhere as well?

TJG


From mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us  Fri May 16 15:48:52 2008
From: mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us (Mike Driscoll)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 08:48:52 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Problem creating a shortcut
In-Reply-To: <482CA9AE.1080004@probo.com>
References: <482C99B0.3090805@co.marshall.ia.us> <482CA9AE.1080004@probo.com>
Message-ID: <482D90C4.1080004@co.marshall.ia.us>

Tim,
> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Mike 
> Driscoll wrote:
>>
>> I've had this niggling issue from time to time. I want to create a
>> shortcut on the user's desktop to a website that specifically loads
>> Firefox even if Firefox is not the default browser.
>> ...
>> shortcut = shell.CreateShortCut(userDesktop + '\\MyShortcut.lnk')
>> shortcut.Targetpath = r'"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
>> https:\www.myCompanyWebsite.com\ 
>> <http://www.myCompanyWebsite.com%5C>auth\preauth.php'
>> shortcut.WorkingDirectory = r'C:\Program Files\Mozilla
>> Firefox'
>> shortcut.save()
>>
>> </code>
>
> Do you understand that it is not safe to assume that Firefox lives in 
> "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox"?  I often override my application 
> install directories to keep the paths short, so I put it in 
> "C:\Apps\Firefox".  Plus, the "Program Files" path name is localized 
> on the international versions of Windows.

I guess I should have described my environment a little more. This is 
for a logon script at a business. The user's have no control over where 
Firefox resides and if they happen to uninstall it or do not have it in 
the first place, one of my other scripts will install it for them in the 
background.

The reason is quite simple. We use Zimbra which runs much better in 
Firefox than any other browser we've tested. But you and the others are 
correct. If this had been an application, then I wouldn't have done this 
the way that I am.

>
> You'll need to dig in the registry, in 
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Mozilla\Mozilla Firefox.  Fetch the 
> "CurrentVersion" string value, then look inside that key, in Main, and 
> fetch the PathToExe string.  Something like this:
>
> ffkey = _winreg.OpenKey( _winreg.HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, 
> 'SOFTWARE\\Mozilla\\Mozilla Firefox')
> ffver = _winreg.QueryValueEx( ffkey, 'CurrentVersion' )[0]
> print ffver
> ffmainkey = _winreg.OpenKey( ffkey, sub + "\\Main" )
> ffpath = _winreg.QueryValueEx( ffmainkey, 'PathToExe' )[0]
> _winreg.CloseKey( ffkey )
> _winreg.CloseKey( ffmainkey )
>

Thanks for the advice,

Mike

From mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us  Fri May 16 15:49:53 2008
From: mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us (Mike Driscoll)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 08:49:53 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Problem creating a shortcut
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP700F0E61345FC12188992A3C90@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP700F0E61345FC12188992A3C90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <482D9101.7080904@co.marshall.ia.us>

Roger,
> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Mike 
> Driscoll wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've had this niggling issue from time to time. I want to create a
>> shortcut on the user's desktop to a website that specifically loads
>> Firefox even if Firefox is not the default browser.
>>
>> I usually use COM as it allows very specific settings of the shortcut,
>> such as the Working Directory and the Target Path. However, the
>> following will not work for some reason:
>>
>> <code>
>>
>> import win32com.client
>> import winshell
>>
>> shell = win32com.client.Dispatch('WScript.Shell')
>> userDesktop = winshell.desktop()
>>
>> shortcut = shell.CreateShortCut(userDesktop + '\\MyShortcut.lnk')
>> shortcut.Targetpath = r'"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
>> https:\www.myCompanyWebsite.com\ 
>> <http://www.myCompanyWebsite.com%5C>auth\preauth.php'
>> shortcut.WorkingDirectory = r'C:\Program Files\Mozilla
>> Firefox'
>> shortcut.save()
>>
>> </code>
>>
>> This creates the following target path (which doesn't work for 
>> obvious reasons) in the shortcut's Target Path. The extra "C:\" is 
>> getting in there somehow...
>>
>> "C:\"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" https:
>> \www.myCompanyWebsite.com\ 
>> <http://www.myCompanyWebsite.com%5C>auth\preauth.php"
>>
>> If I leave the website off the TargetPath, it works. If I take the 
>> path to Firefox
>> out of the TargetPath, it works too. Is there another method I can 
>> use other than
>> creating the shortcut by hand and using the shutil module?
>>
>> Thank you for any ideas.
>>
>> Mike
>
> I think you need to put the URL in shortcut.Arguments rather than
> appending it to the executable path.
>
>          Roger
>
>
> </div>

Someone on c.l.py pointed this out too. I was unaware that that existed. 
It works great though. Thanks a lot!

Mike

From larry.bates at websafe.com  Fri May 16 15:57:44 2008
From: larry.bates at websafe.com (Larry Bates)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 08:57:44 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Attaching Menu to Any App
In-Reply-To: <482C8B2F.30902@timgolden.me.uk>
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Tim Golden wrote:
> Tim Roberts wrote:
>> What *I* said was that it could NOT be done in pure Python, but I was 
>> expecting Mark Hammond or Tim Golden to contradict me in such a 
>> pessimistic statement.  ;)
> 
> I was trying to hold back from a tirade of pointing
> out how foolish an idea this was. Why is it that people
> (a) want to to do intrusive things with other people's
> interfaces? and (b) want it to be easy and risk-free?
> 
> (sigh)
> 
> Tim

While I agree with Tim that unilaterally trying to add something to another 
applications menu will be a lesson in futility, many Windows applications have 
clearly defined APIs for adding items to their menus or toolbars (Microsoft 
Office, etc).  A good place to start would be to look at Mark Hammond's 
excellent SpamBayes plug-in for Outlook on how to add utilities to such 
applications.

-Larry


From Kyle.Rickey at bakerhughes.com  Fri May 16 17:35:45 2008
From: Kyle.Rickey at bakerhughes.com (Rickey, Kyle W)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:35:45 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Volume Serial Number
Message-ID: <D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984532CD@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>

How do I get the volume serial number for a drive? For example in the
cmd prompt issuing this:

 

C:\>vol C:

 Volume in drive C is LABEL

 Volume Serial Number is FFFF-0000

 

Is the volume serial number wrapped by pywin32? I found the function
win32api.GetVolumeInformation, but it doesn't seem to return what I
want.

 

-Kyle Rickey

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From rdahlstrom at directedge.com  Fri May 16 18:03:22 2008
From: rdahlstrom at directedge.com (Dahlstrom, Roger)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 12:03:22 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Volume Serial Number
References: <D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984532CD@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>
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only way I know how to do it is 
 
import os
out = os.popen("dir SomethingThatDoesntExist")
print out

________________________________

From: python-win32-bounces at python.org [mailto:python-win32-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Rickey, Kyle W
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:36 AM
To: python-win32 at python.org
Subject: [python-win32] Volume Serial Number



How do I get the volume serial number for a drive? For example in the cmd prompt issuing this:

 

C:\>vol C:

 Volume in drive C is LABEL

 Volume Serial Number is FFFF-0000

 

Is the volume serial number wrapped by pywin32? I found the function win32api.GetVolumeInformation, but it doesn't seem to return what I want.

 

-Kyle Rickey



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From cappy2112 at gmail.com  Fri May 16 19:32:01 2008
From: cappy2112 at gmail.com (Tony Cappellini)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:32:01 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Volume Serial Number
Message-ID: <8249c4ac0805161032w70dd8442ha3d942a086d4a25e@mail.gmail.com>

That's not the serial number of the drive- as assigned by the drive
manufacturer.

If you want the SN from the drive manufacturer, you will need to issue an
IOCTL ATA Passthrough command which sends the  ATA Identify Device command
to the drive. Unless the Winapi has a wrapper for that functionality, you
can't do that via Python.

You would have to install the Windows SDK to compile a tiny program to issue
the Identify Device command and pull out the SN from the data coming back,
which is only 512 bytes.

This would have to be written in C. It's not difficult to do and the program
would only require less than100 lines of C code.
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From timr at probo.com  Fri May 16 19:33:39 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:33:39 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Volume Serial Number
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Message-ID: <482DC573.4080802@probo.com>

Rickey, Kyle W wrote:
>
> How do I get the volume serial number for a drive? For example in the 
> cmd prompt issuing this:
>
>  
>
> C:\>vol C:
>
>  Volume in drive C is LABEL
>
>  Volume Serial Number is FFFF-0000
>
>  
>
> Is the volume serial number wrapped by pywin32? I found the function 
> win32api.GetVolumeInformation, but it doesn?t seem to return what I want.
>

Yes, actually, it does.  The second item in the tuple it returns is the 
VSN as a 32-bit binary value.

You were probably confused because Python showed it to you as a signed 
decimal integer.  If your VSN is really FFFF-0000, then it probably 
showed you -65535.  If you print that in hex, you get -FFFF, and if you 
treat that as unsigned, you get FFFF0000.

I wish I knew a better way to do the signed/unsigned mangling, but try this:

    def UnsignedHex( v ):
        if v >= 0: return '%08X' % v
        return '%08X' % (0x100000000 + v )
    print UnsignedHex( win32api.GetVolumeInformation('C:\\')[1] )

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From timr at probo.com  Fri May 16 19:34:28 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:34:28 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Volume Serial Number
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Dahlstrom, Roger wrote:
> only way I know how to do it is
>  
> import os
> out = os.popen("dir SomethingThatDoesntExist")
> print out

The "vol" command was designed for this purpose:
    out = os.popen("vol")

although GetVolumeInformation is a better way.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From cappy2112 at gmail.com  Fri May 16 19:35:47 2008
From: cappy2112 at gmail.com (Tony Cappellini)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:35:47 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Volume Serial Number
Message-ID: <8249c4ac0805161035h1f7e0671m6517f01b19436404@mail.gmail.com>

Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:35:45 -0500
> From: "Rickey, Kyle W" <Kyle.Rickey at bakerhughes.com>
> Subject: [python-win32] Volume Serial Number
> To: <python-win32 at python.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984532CD at MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> >>How do I get the volume serial number for a drive? For example in the
> >>cmd prompt issuing this:
>
> It looks like Tim Golden has a way to do what you want- via Python!
http://tgolden.sc.sabren.com/python/win32_how_do_i/see_if_two_files_are_the_same_file.html
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From timr at probo.com  Fri May 16 19:40:17 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:40:17 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] [OT] Anyone happen to know the system-wide limit
 of HANDLEs in Windows 2000 Server?
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Trent Nelson wrote:
> I'm debugging a weird/sporadic COM/ActiveX error with an application on a client's site that's recently been 'migrated' to Citrix Metaframe on Windows 2000 Server.  I'm starting to think we may be hitting the system-wide limit for how many HANDLEs can be created across all processes every so often, which always causes weird and wonderful behaviour.
>
> However, I can't remember what the system-wide limit is, and stfw'ing didn't turn up any clues.  I recall reading something in a GDI programming book recently where the author used brute force to demonstrate that the system limit was around X handles -- but I can't remember what X was, I think it was around 43,000, but I'm not sure.
>
> Anyone here happen to know off the top of their head?
>   

10,000 per process.   32,700 system-wide.  That's window manager objects 
-- window handles.  GDI object handles are separate.

http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2007/07/18/3926581.aspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms725486.aspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms724291.aspx

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us  Fri May 16 19:43:19 2008
From: mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us (Mike Driscoll)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 12:43:19 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Problem creating a shortcut
In-Reply-To: <482D6B7A.6040808@timgolden.me.uk>
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Tim Golden wrote:
> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Sorry, 
> missed this one going through. Looks like
> Roger's hit the nail on the head, though. Bizarre
> behaviour by the IShellLink interface: I can't find
> any kind of reference to this but I assume that
> since the Path attribute of the link should *only*
> contain an executable, there's no need for the
> quotes -- which then confuse it when they're there
> as it tries to make the executable into an absolute
> path.
>
> One small comment, Mike. Since you're using the
> winshell module -- which I assume is the one from
> my site -- why not use its CreateShortcut function?
> It's basically just a light wrapper around the IShellLink
> functionality which someone else mentioned:
>
> <code>
> import os, sys
> import winshell
>
> winshell.CreateShortcut (
> Path=os.path.join (winshell.desktop (), "shortcut.lnk"),
> Target=r"c:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe",
> Arguments="http://localhost",
> Description="Open http://localhost with Firefox"
> )
>
> </code>
>
> But maybe you're using the WScript.Shell functionality
> elsewhere as well?
>
> TJG
>
>
> </div>

Good point. I am using your module (thanks!). Somehow I missed it's 
shortcut creating abilities. I do use the WScript.Shell earlier in my 
script, but I think it's just for other types of shortcut creation.

I'll have to look. It would be good not to have to import extra stuff.

Mike


From timr at probo.com  Fri May 16 19:43:05 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:43:05 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Volume Serial Number
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References: <8249c4ac0805161035h1f7e0671m6517f01b19436404@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <482DC7A9.2020604@probo.com>

Tony Cappellini wrote:
>
>     >>How do I get the volume serial number for a drive? For example
>     in the
>     >>cmd prompt issuing this:
>
> It looks like Tim Golden has a way to do what you want- via Python!
> http://tgolden.sc.sabren.com/python/win32_how_do_i/see_if_two_files_are_the_same_file.html

Tim Golden has a way to do just about everything, but this particular 
snippet has nothing to do with the original question.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Fri May 16 19:45:05 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 18:45:05 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Volume Serial Number
In-Reply-To: <D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984532CD@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>
References: <D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984532CD@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>
Message-ID: <482DC821.4000905@timgolden.me.uk>

Rickey, Kyle W wrote:
> How do I get the volume serial number for a drive? For example in the 
> cmd prompt issuing this:

WMI to the rescue?

<code>
import wmi

for volume in wmi.WMI ().Win32_LogicalDisk ():
   print volume.Caption, "=>", volume.VolumeSerialNumber

</code>

TJG

From Kyle.Rickey at bakerhughes.com  Fri May 16 20:18:49 2008
From: Kyle.Rickey at bakerhughes.com (Rickey, Kyle W)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 13:18:49 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Volume Serial Number [SOLVED]
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References: <D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984532CD@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>
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Thanks to all for your responses.

I tried both methods from each Tim. :)

> Yes, actually, it does.  The second item in the tuple it returns is
the
> VSN as a 32-bit binary value.

Ahh, now I understand where I messed up, your code example enlightened
me.

> WMI to the rescue?
> <code>
> import wmi
>
> for volume in wmi.WMI ().Win32_LogicalDisk ():
>    print volume.Caption, "=>", volume.VolumeSerialNumber
>
> </code>

This example also worked quite well. In addition to that there's lots of
juicy information available from the 'volume' object. Thanks for that!

> If you want the SN from the drive manufacturer, you will need to issue
an > IOCTL ATA Passthrough command which sends the  ATA Identify Device
command > to the drive. Unless the Winapi has a wrapper for that
functionality, you > can't do that via Python.

Thanks for that as well, although not what I was looking for, I'll save
that for a rainy day. :)

Just for message consistency, I've reposted Tim Robert's example below:

def UnsignedHex( v ):
        if v >= 0: return '%08X' % v
        return '%08X' % (0x100000000 + v )
    print UnsignedHex( win32api.GetVolumeInformation('C:\\')[1] )

Thanks again to everyone for your help.

-Kyle Rickey
-----Original Message-----
From: python-win32-bounces at python.org
[mailto:python-win32-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tim Golden
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 12:45 PM
Cc: python-win32 at python.org
Subject: Re: [python-win32] Volume Serial Number

Rickey, Kyle W wrote:
> How do I get the volume serial number for a drive? For example in the 
> cmd prompt issuing this:

WMI to the rescue?

<code>
import wmi

for volume in wmi.WMI ().Win32_LogicalDisk ():
   print volume.Caption, "=>", volume.VolumeSerialNumber

</code>

TJG
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From cappy2112 at gmail.com  Fri May 16 20:30:42 2008
From: cappy2112 at gmail.com (Tony Cappellini)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 11:30:42 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Volume Serial Number
Message-ID: <8249c4ac0805161130y383b2122s1c4a8a380d559367@mail.gmail.com>

>>Tim Golden has a way to do just about everything, but this particular
>>snippet has nothing to do with the original question.

def get_unique_id (hFile):
  (
    attributes,
    created_at, accessed_at, written_at,
    volume,
    file_hi, file_lo,
    n_links,
    index_hi, index_lo
  ) = win32file.GetFileInformationByHandle (hFile)
  return volume, index_hi, index_lo


The link I posted certainly has a misleading name, but the code above
(from that link) returns the volume SN.
Is the fifth item returned from
GetFileInformationByHandle() not the Volume SN?

[0] *int* : dwFileAttributes
[1] *PyTime <PyTime.html>* : ftCreationTime
[2] *PyTime <PyTime.html>* : ftLastAccessTime
[3] *PyTime <PyTime.html>* : ftLastWriteTime
[4] *int* : dwVolumeSerialNumber
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From python at bdurham.com  Fri May 16 20:37:02 2008
From: python at bdurham.com (python at bdurham.com)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 14:37:02 -0400
Subject: [python-win32]  Is WMI ever disabled?
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I've been enjoying a lot of the WMI examples posted on this mailing
list.

Does anyone know if WMI is ever fully or partially disabled by corporate
customers, eg. as a way to secure workstations?

I'm trying to figure out how confident one can be about assuming WMI
functionality will be available on real-world 'locked-down' corporate
workstations.

Thank you,
Malcolm

From timr at probo.com  Fri May 16 21:58:26 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 12:58:26 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Volume Serial Number
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References: <8249c4ac0805161130y383b2122s1c4a8a380d559367@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <482DE762.4060808@probo.com>

Tony Cappellini wrote:
> >>Tim Golden has a way to do just about everything, but this particular
> >>snippet has nothing to do with the original question.
>
> def get_unique_id (hFile):
>   (
>     attributes,
>
>     created_at, accessed_at, written_at,
>     volume,
>     file_hi, file_lo,
>     n_links,
>     index_hi, index_lo
>   ) = win32file.GetFileInformationByHandle (hFile)
>   return volume, index_hi, index_lo
>
> The link I posted certainly has a misleading name, but the code above (from that link) returns the volume SN.
> Is the fifth item returned from GetFileInformationByHandle() not the Volume SN? 
>   

You are quite correct, I apologize.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From timr at probo.com  Fri May 16 22:00:30 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 13:00:30 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Is WMI ever disabled?
In-Reply-To: <1210963022.30585.1253575235@webmail.messagingengine.com>
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python at bdurham.com wrote:
> I've been enjoying a lot of the WMI examples posted on this mailing
> list.
>
> Does anyone know if WMI is ever fully or partially disabled by corporate
> customers, eg. as a way to secure workstations?
>   

I would expect quite the opposite.  In corporate situations, WMI is 
often exploited quite heavily for monitoring, logging, and administration.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Fri May 16 22:45:12 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:45:12 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Is WMI ever disabled?
In-Reply-To: <1210963022.30585.1253575235@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984532CD@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>	<482DC821.4000905@timgolden.me.uk>	<D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D98453333@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>
	<1210963022.30585.1253575235@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <482DF258.8070605@timgolden.me.uk>

python at bdurham.com wrote:
> I've been enjoying a lot of the WMI examples posted on this mailing
> list.
> 
> Does anyone know if WMI is ever fully or partially disabled by corporate
> customers, eg. as a way to secure workstations?
> 
> I'm trying to figure out how confident one can be about assuming WMI
> functionality will be available on real-world 'locked-down' corporate
> workstations.

Interesting because of course WMI can be used to do so many
things remotely that it might be considered a security risk.
You can secure it down to namespace level but no lower than
that, I think: if a user has access to, say, view Volume labels,
then they can create new processes (altho' there are privilege
implications on some such things).

In short, though, I've never heard of an environment where it
is disabled since its potential for remote administration and
so on is so useful.

TJG

From patrick at raptr.com  Sat May 17 21:58:38 2008
From: patrick at raptr.com (Patrick Li)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 12:58:38 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] win32api.GetShortPathName() leaks memory?
Message-ID: <2b5a48740805171258y132237anca9fdf732685e8a1@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm running into some memory leak issue when running the
win32pi.GetShortPathName function.  Basically I've got a daemon that will
perform this function on lots of long windows path names.  Over time, it
looks like the memory footprint increases substantially.

You can reproduce it by simply launching this in your python interpreter:

import win32api

for x in xrange(1000000):
  win32api.GetShortPathName("c:\\documents and settings\\some
directory\\name")

You will see in your windows task manager that the memory usage shoots up.

Anyone have any idea on how to get around this problem?  I thought about
writing my own version of GetShortPathName, but so far I haven't been able
to find any source code/docs online on the proper logic to generate the
short name.

Thanks,
Patrick
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From rwupole at msn.com  Sat May 17 22:29:05 2008
From: rwupole at msn.com (Roger Upole)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 16:29:05 -0400
Subject: [python-win32]  win32api.GetShortPathName() leaks memory?
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP7B3CA47304D2D3ADEC354A3CB0@phx.gbl>

This has been fixed in CVS, and will be corrected in the
next release.

win32api.FindFiles will also return the short file name,
although only for the final component in the path.

       Roger


From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Sun May 18 03:50:48 2008
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 11:50:48 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] *****SPAM***** win32api.GetShortPathName() leaks
	memory?
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP7B3CA47304D2D3ADEC354A3CB0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP7B3CA47304D2D3ADEC354A3CB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <021101c8b889$9b2d3280$d1879780$@com.au>

Digging a little more, the spamassassin issue appears to be
https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5666, but sadly the
fix doesn't seem to yet appear in a released version, so I can't ask my ISP
to upgrade.

Cheers,

Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Upole [mailto:rwupole at msn.com]
> Sent: Sunday, 18 May 2008 6:29 AM
> To: python-win32 at python.org
> Subject: *****SPAM***** [python-win32] win32api.GetShortPathName()
> leaks memory?
> 
> Spam detection software, running on the system "vsmail2.per.eftel.com",
> has identified this incoming email as possible spam.  The original
> message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam)
> or label similar future email.  If you have any questions, see the
> administrator of that system for details.
> 
> Content preview:  This has been fixed in CVS, and will be corrected in
> the next
>    release. win32api.FindFiles will also return the short file name,
> although
>    only for the final component in the path. Roger [...]
> 
> Content analysis details:   (5.7 points, 5.0 required)
> 
>  pts rule name              description
> ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------
> -------
>  1.5 MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER  Message-Id was added by a relay
>  4.2 FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK     Forged mail pretending to be from MS
> Outlook
> 



From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Sun May 18 04:14:32 2008
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 12:14:32 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] *****SPAM***** win32api.GetShortPathName() leaks
	memory?
In-Reply-To: <021101c8b889$9b2d3280$d1879780$@com.au>
References: <BLU0-SMTP7B3CA47304D2D3ADEC354A3CB0@phx.gbl>
	<021101c8b889$9b2d3280$d1879780$@com.au>
Message-ID: <021501c8b88c$ebb837b0$c328a710$@com.au>

Oops - I'm not having a good day - this wasn't supposed to be CC'd to the
list.  No harm done though - in case anyone is interested, my ISP's spam
filter is picking up Roger's email due to a combination of his MUA and a
spamassassin bug :(

Sorry for the noise...

Mark


> -----Original Message-----
> From: python-win32-bounces at python.org [mailto:python-win32-
> bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Hammond
> Sent: Sunday, 18 May 2008 11:51 AM
> To: 'Roger Upole'; python-win32 at python.org
> Subject: Re: [python-win32] *****SPAM***** win32api.GetShortPathName()
> leaks memory?
> 
> Digging a little more, the spamassassin issue appears to be
> https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5666, but sadly
> the fix doesn't seem to yet appear in a released version, so I can't 
> ask my ISP to upgrade.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Mark
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Upole [mailto:rwupole at msn.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, 18 May 2008 6:29 AM
> > To: python-win32 at python.org
> > Subject: *****SPAM***** [python-win32] win32api.GetShortPathName()
> > leaks memory?
> >
> > Spam detection software, running on the system
> "vsmail2.per.eftel.com",
> > has identified this incoming email as possible spam.  The original
> > message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't
> spam)
> > or label similar future email.  If you have any questions, see the
> > administrator of that system for details.
> >
> > Content preview:  This has been fixed in CVS, and will be corrected
> in
> > the next
> >    release. win32api.FindFiles will also return the short file name,
> > although
> >    only for the final component in the path. Roger [...]
> >
> > Content analysis details:   (5.7 points, 5.0 required)
> >
> >  pts rule name              description
> > ---- ---------------------- -----------------------------------------
> --
> > -------
> >  1.5 MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER  Message-Id was added by a relay
> >  4.2 FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK     Forged mail pretending to be from MS
> > Outlook
> >
> 
> 
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From lgautier at gmail.com  Sun May 18 17:55:19 2008
From: lgautier at gmail.com (Laurent Gautier)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 23:55:19 +0800
Subject: [python-win32] Error while trying to compile a C module using MinGW
Message-ID: <27d1e6020805180855xdb0da67qdb907ecf4355402f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I am experiencing problems while trying to build a C module.

I have been through many explanations of how to setup a Windows XP box
and I studied them carefully, and unsuccessfully, before posting here.

For example, when trying to build the minimal example on wikipedia
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Python_Programming/Extending_with_C#A_minimal_example

I get:

C:\Documents and Settings\Bozo\>python setup.py build -g
running build
running build_ext
building 'hello' extension
creating build\temp.win32-2.5\Debug
gcc -mno-cygwin -mdll -O -Wall -g -IC:\Python25\include
-IC:\Python25\PC -c hellomodule.c -o
build\temp.win32-2.5\Debug\hellomodule.o
error: command 'gcc' failed: No such file or directory

The odd thing is that when I copy/paste the line
gcc -mno-cygwin -mdll -O -Wall -g -IC:\Python25\include
-IC:\Python25\PC -c hellomodule.c -o
build\temp.win32-2.5\Debug\hellomodule.o
into the very same DOS shell that gave the error, that line runs just fine.



Any hint would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks,


Laurent

From lgautier at gmail.com  Sun May 18 20:02:53 2008
From: lgautier at gmail.com (Laurent Gautier)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 02:02:53 +0800
Subject: [python-win32] Error while trying to compile a C module using
	MinGW
In-Reply-To: <27d1e6020805180855xdb0da67qdb907ecf4355402f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <27d1e6020805180855xdb0da67qdb907ecf4355402f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <27d1e6020805181102y4a98424auc68de51db4f92337@mail.gmail.com>

Some follow-up.
When having a minimal "Path" variable defined (that is with only
C:\MinGW\bin), "python setup.py build" does work.
There might be something in my complete regular Path that confuses distutils.



2008/5/18 Laurent Gautier <lgautier at gmail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> I am experiencing problems while trying to build a C module.
>
> I have been through many explanations of how to setup a Windows XP box
> and I studied them carefully, and unsuccessfully, before posting here.
>
> For example, when trying to build the minimal example on wikipedia
> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Python_Programming/Extending_with_C#A_minimal_example
>
> I get:
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Bozo\>python setup.py build -g
> running build
> running build_ext
> building 'hello' extension
> creating build\temp.win32-2.5\Debug
> gcc -mno-cygwin -mdll -O -Wall -g -IC:\Python25\include
> -IC:\Python25\PC -c hellomodule.c -o
> build\temp.win32-2.5\Debug\hellomodule.o
> error: command 'gcc' failed: No such file or directory
>
> The odd thing is that when I copy/paste the line
> gcc -mno-cygwin -mdll -O -Wall -g -IC:\Python25\include
> -IC:\Python25\PC -c hellomodule.c -o
> build\temp.win32-2.5\Debug\hellomodule.o
> into the very same DOS shell that gave the error, that line runs just fine.
>
>
>
> Any hint would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Laurent
>

From singhai.nish at gmail.com  Mon May 19 16:24:11 2008
From: singhai.nish at gmail.com (kNish)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 19:54:11 +0530
Subject: [python-win32] maya and python
Message-ID: <81bfef2e0805190724v76d3df2y775b496f2e3119e4@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

           How good is python 3rd party plugin like wxpython compatible with
maya 2008 that is running on windows 64. Do you say it is a good idea to run
scripts on it and expect a smooth function flow.

BRgds,


kNish
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From singhai.nish at gmail.com  Mon May 19 20:14:06 2008
From: singhai.nish at gmail.com (kNish)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 23:44:06 +0530
Subject: [python-win32] maya and python
In-Reply-To: <81bfef2e0805190724v76d3df2y775b496f2e3119e4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <81bfef2e0805190724v76d3df2y775b496f2e3119e4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <81bfef2e0805191114p783809d1u61e50b108fbfab10@mail.gmail.com>

            I need to call it from inside Maya.



On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 7:54 PM, kNish <singhai.nish at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>            How good is python 3rd party plugin like wxpython compatible
> with maya 2008 that is running on windows 64. Do you say it is a good idea
> to run scripts on it and expect a smooth function flow.
>
> BRgds,
>
>
> kNish
>
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From cappy2112 at gmail.com  Tue May 20 00:25:56 2008
From: cappy2112 at gmail.com (Tony Cappellini)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:25:56 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] using the wave module for reading wave files
Message-ID: <8249c4ac0805191525p386726fct25b6bcd988664047@mail.gmail.com>

In the wave module, is the term "frame" synonymous with sample?
That is, does the method wave.readframes(1) read a sample that is
getsampwidth() bits wide, where each sample was sampled at the frequency
found at wave.getframerate() ?
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From gerdusvanzyl at gmail.com  Tue May 20 10:42:51 2008
From: gerdusvanzyl at gmail.com (Gerdus van Zyl)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 10:42:51 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] maya and python
In-Reply-To: <81bfef2e0805191114p783809d1u61e50b108fbfab10@mail.gmail.com>
References: <81bfef2e0805190724v76d3df2y775b496f2e3119e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<81bfef2e0805191114p783809d1u61e50b108fbfab10@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <91882ea90805200142o74bf353dy32d0aa0e2ceffb43@mail.gmail.com>

Depends on how python is integrated with maya, are there other plugins
that use external GUI libraries? You might want to ask a maya list
they will know better.

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 8:14 PM, kNish <singhai.nish at gmail.com> wrote:
>             I need to call it from inside Maya.
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 7:54 PM, kNish <singhai.nish at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>            How good is python 3rd party plugin like wxpython compatible
>> with maya 2008 that is running on windows 64. Do you say it is a good idea
>> to run scripts on it and expect a smooth function flow.
>>
>> BRgds,
>>
>>
>> kNish
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>
>

From otaeris at o2.pl  Tue May 20 12:19:55 2008
From: otaeris at o2.pl (otaeris at o2.pl)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 12:19:55 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] =?utf-8?q?maya_and_python?=
In-Reply-To: <91882ea90805200142o74bf353dy32d0aa0e2ceffb43@mail.gmail.com>
References: <81bfef2e0805190724v76d3df2y775b496f2e3119e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<81bfef2e0805191114p783809d1u61e50b108fbfab10@mail.gmail.com>
	<91882ea90805200142o74bf353dy32d0aa0e2ceffb43@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <67378d78.76620ce5.4832a5cb.cbc98@o2.pl>

To use wx in maya you have to add wxPython folder path into 
mayapython sys.path. Python 2.5 is integrated with maya 2008, so it should work just fine. You can do quite a lot with maya UI using maya.cmds.

cgBartek

> Depends on how python is integrated with maya, are there other plugins
> that use external GUI libraries? You might want to ask a maya list
> they will know better.
> 
> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 8:14 PM, kNish <singhai.nish at gmail.com> wrote:
> >             I need to call it from inside Maya.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 7:54 PM, kNish <singhai.nish at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>            How good is python 3rd party plugin like wxpython compatible
> >> with maya 2008 that is running on windows 64. Do you say it is a good idea
> >> to run scripts on it and expect a smooth function flow.
> >>
> >> BRgds,
> >>
> >>
> >> kNish
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > python-win32 mailing list
> > python-win32 at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32


From mugunth at gmail.com  Tue May 20 13:01:34 2008
From: mugunth at gmail.com (Muguntharaj Subramanian)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 04:01:34 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Is it possible to send Unicode characters using
	SendKeys ?
Message-ID: <8dd9fd0805200401p211fa9d4xbd930b182075600b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
I have started exploring Sendkeys:
http://www.rutherfurd.net/python/sendkeys/ for one of my applications.
I find sendkey works well for sending ascii characters to the active
applications. I am not able to find any documentation on how to send unicode
characters using sendkey.
Is it possible for us to use sendkeys to send unicode characters to
applications? If yes please let me know how to do it.

Regards
Mugunth

-- 
http://mugunth.blogspot.com
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From siddhartha.veedaluru at gmail.com  Tue May 20 13:03:12 2008
From: siddhartha.veedaluru at gmail.com (siddhartha veedaluru)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 16:33:12 +0530
Subject: [python-win32] import COM modules and access the methods and
	properties
Message-ID: <424b71ec0805200403u3d81f570x21308a8a4f53701f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

we are using HP Quality Center Test Director.
It provides Open Test Architecture API so that we can you use this API with
other tools such as VB,C++ to connect,perform operation etc with
TestDirector.The Open Test Architecture API is a COM library.

Using PythonWin COM Browser i can see its Objects.It seems we can use
win32com/pythoncom to access the objects and interact with TD.

But i'm new to COM,So help needed in importing modules and getting the
objects to use with in my scripts.

If i'm incomplete anywhere and require more information please specify.

Thanks  a million,
Siddhartha.
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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Tue May 20 15:09:28 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 14:09:28 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Is it possible to send Unicode characters using
 SendKeys ?
In-Reply-To: <8dd9fd0805200401p211fa9d4xbd930b182075600b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8dd9fd0805200401p211fa9d4xbd930b182075600b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4832CD88.7090403@timgolden.me.uk>

Muguntharaj Subramanian wrote:
> Hi All,
> I have started exploring Sendkeys:
> http://www.rutherfurd.net/python/sendkeys/ for one of my applications.
> I find sendkey works well for sending ascii characters to the active
> applications. I am not able to find any documentation on how to send unicode
> characters using sendkey.
> Is it possible for us to use sendkeys to send unicode characters to
> applications? If yes please let me know how to do it.

>From a quick glance, the source in _sendkeys.c is using the
MapVirtualKeyA API call, which is non-Unicode. Frankly, I've
never used this package and I'm unaware of any subtleties, but
I'd guess it won't handle Unicode.

Have you contacted the authors?

TJG

From adam at volition-inc.com  Tue May 20 15:55:24 2008
From: adam at volition-inc.com (Adam Pletcher)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 08:55:24 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] maya and python
References: <81bfef2e0805190724v76d3df2y775b496f2e3119e4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <893A44FF792E904A97B7515CE3419146032057B2@volimxs01.thqinc.com>

A good source of Maya + Python information is CGTalk's Maya Programming forum:
http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=89
?
In particular, there's this lengthy thread titled "wxPython and Maya 8.5".
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=89&t=453070
?
I imagine it's all still applicable to Maya 2008.
?
- Adam

________________________________________
From: python-win32-bounces at python.org on behalf of kNish
Sent: Mon 5/19/2008 9:24 AM
To: python-win32 at python.org
Subject: [python-win32] maya and python
Hi,

?????????? How good is python 3rd party plugin like wxpython compatible with maya 2008 that is running on windows 64. Do you say it is a good idea to run scripts on it and expect a smooth function flow.

BRgds,


kNish

From timr at probo.com  Tue May 20 18:55:14 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 09:55:14 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] using the wave module for reading wave files
In-Reply-To: <8249c4ac0805191525p386726fct25b6bcd988664047@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8249c4ac0805191525p386726fct25b6bcd988664047@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48330272.60003@probo.com>

Tony Cappellini wrote:
>
> In the wave module, is the term "frame" synonymous with sample?
> That is, does the method wave.readframes(1) read a sample that is 
> getsampwidth() bits wide, where each sample was sampled at the 
> frequency found at wave.getframerate() ?

The nice thing about Python is that you can go look in the source.  
wave.py is in the standard library.

Each "frame" is sample width X number of channels.  If you have a 
44100-S-16 audio stream, each frame is 4 bytes (stereo x 16 bits per 
sample).

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From siddhartha.veedaluru at gmail.com  Tue May 20 19:58:32 2008
From: siddhartha.veedaluru at gmail.com (siddhartha veedaluru)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 23:28:32 +0530
Subject: [python-win32] Fwd: import COM modules and access the methods and
	properties
In-Reply-To: <424b71ec0805200403u3d81f570x21308a8a4f53701f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <424b71ec0805200403u3d81f570x21308a8a4f53701f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <424b71ec0805201058n2cb5e602hcb3c1946165afafe@mail.gmail.com>

 Hi,

we are using HP Quality Center Test Director.
It provides Open Test Architecture API so that we can you use this API with
other tools such as VB,C++ to connect,perform operation etc with
TestDirector.The Open Test Architecture API is a COM library.

Using PythonWin COM Browser i can see its Objects.It seems we can use
win32com/pythoncom to access the objects and interact with TD.

But i'm new to COM,So help needed in importing modules and getting the
objects to use with in my scripts.

If i'm incomplete anywhere and require more information please specify.

Thanks  a million,
Siddhartha.
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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Wed May 21 10:12:08 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 09:12:08 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Fwd: import COM modules and access the methods
	and properties
In-Reply-To: <424b71ec0805201058n2cb5e602hcb3c1946165afafe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <424b71ec0805200403u3d81f570x21308a8a4f53701f@mail.gmail.com>
	<424b71ec0805201058n2cb5e602hcb3c1946165afafe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4833D958.90102@timgolden.me.uk>

siddhartha veedaluru wrote:
> we are using HP Quality Center Test Director.
> It provides Open Test Architecture API so that we can you use this API with
> other tools such as VB,C++ to connect,perform operation etc with
> TestDirector.The Open Test Architecture API is a COM library.
> 
> Using PythonWin COM Browser i can see its Objects.It seems we can use
> win32com/pythoncom to access the objects and interact with TD.
> 
> But i'm new to COM,So help needed in importing modules and getting the
> objects to use with in my scripts.
> 
> If i'm incomplete anywhere and require more information please specify.

I can't remember if someone's already suggested this to you, but if
not, then the best thing is to get hold of "Python Programming on Win32"
from O'Reilly [1], either by buying it or through Safari. By good fortune,
one of the sample chapters [2] is exactly on COM programming. Have
a look and try some things out.

TJG

[1] http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9781565926219/
[2] http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pythonwin32/chapter/ch12.html

From Ron.Henderson at dreamworks.com  Thu May 22 05:03:19 2008
From: Ron.Henderson at dreamworks.com (Ron Henderson)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 20:03:19 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] MSProject and export maps
Message-ID: <4834E277.8010507@anim.dreamworks.com>

Does anybody know how to avoid the "Export Wizard" when saving a file 
with MSProject?  The FileSaveAs method seems to ignore the Map keyword.  
My code looks essentially like this:

mp = Dispatch("MSProject.Application")
mp.FileOpen(mppFile)
mp.FileSaveAs(csvFile, Format=3, Map="My Export Map")
mp.FileClose(Save=0)
mp.FileQuit()

This gets the correct data into the file, but MSProject pops up the 
"Export Wizard" and forces me to select the map manually in order to 
complete the FileSaveAs() operation.

Other people seem have encountered the same problem, but I haven't seen 
a solution anywhere.

The only workaround I've found is to record this action as a macro and 
execute the macro:

mp = Dispatch("MSProject.Application")
mp.FileOpen(mppFile)
mp.Run("My Export Macro")
mp.FileClose(Save=0)
mp.FileQuit()



From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Thu May 22 11:33:38 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:33:38 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] MSProject and export maps
In-Reply-To: <4834E277.8010507@anim.dreamworks.com>
References: <4834E277.8010507@anim.dreamworks.com>
Message-ID: <48353DF2.2020505@timgolden.me.uk>

Ron Henderson wrote:
> Does anybody know how to avoid the "Export Wizard" when saving a file 
> with MSProject?  The FileSaveAs method seems to ignore the Map keyword.  

Hopefully someone here will have a clue (altho' it won't be me :) )
But have you tried posting to an MS-specific group? It doesn't
look to be a Python issue specifically?

TJG

From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Thu May 22 18:21:47 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:21:47 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
Message-ID: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>

I have a request of the python-win32 community. Have a look at:

http://timgolden.me.uk/python-on-windows/

In particular, click through to the section on the Registry 
(which is the only section which has anything useful in it!)
and then tell me what you think. About anything. The contents,
the style, the colours, the colors, the depth of examples, the
notes. What should be there? What shouldn't? How much overlap
there should be with other sources of documentation? How much
should just be links across? Should I reproduce the pywin32 docs
verbatim. (Difficult: I've got a branch which is trying. Very trying).
Anything.

Points to bear in mind:

  * This is very alpha
  * I'm using Sphinx but I've done very little with its capabilities
  * The examples I've put together work: you can drop them straight 
onto an interpreter window and run them. But is that a desirable goal.
  * My intention is that this be a community effort. (The source is actually
hosted at Google Code).
  * This URL (probably) won't be its final resting place.

In particular, it will be very clear as you read that I'm 100% sure where 
I'm going with it yet. But at the very least I want lots of examples which, 
even in passing, semi-document the kind of stuff which people ask about
on python-win32 and python-list.

Enough babble from me. Have a look.

TJG

From python at bdurham.com  Thu May 22 18:59:11 2008
From: python at bdurham.com (python at bdurham.com)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:59:11 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <1211475551.12362.1254583373@webmail.messagingengine.com>

Tim,

1. Layout (color, font, margins) looks great.

2. Home page:

a. Include a next (page) link in header/footer?

b. Include an about page with brief note about site's reStructuredText
markup and Sphinx. Include a brief description of the Show Source links
(cool!).

3. Getting Started page:

a. Include links to pywin32 and comtypes downloads.

4. When I randomly walked the site, the previous/next links in the
headers and footers don't seem to link to what I would consider the
previous/next logical pages.

Looking forward to reading your site.

Regards,
Malcolm

From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk  Thu May 22 18:39:26 2008
From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:39:26 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <4835A1BE.3090405@voidspace.org.uk>

Hello Tim,

That looks really good!

Michael

Tim Golden wrote:
> I have a request of the python-win32 community. Have a look at:
>
> http://timgolden.me.uk/python-on-windows/
>
> In particular, click through to the section on the Registry (which is 
> the only section which has anything useful in it!)
> and then tell me what you think. About anything. The contents,
> the style, the colours, the colors, the depth of examples, the
> notes. What should be there? What shouldn't? How much overlap
> there should be with other sources of documentation? How much
> should just be links across? Should I reproduce the pywin32 docs
> verbatim. (Difficult: I've got a branch which is trying. Very trying).
> Anything.
>
> Points to bear in mind:
>
>  * This is very alpha
>  * I'm using Sphinx but I've done very little with its capabilities
>  * The examples I've put together work: you can drop them straight 
> onto an interpreter window and run them. But is that a desirable goal.
>  * My intention is that this be a community effort. (The source is 
> actually
> hosted at Google Code).
>  * This URL (probably) won't be its final resting place.
>
> In particular, it will be very clear as you read that I'm 100% sure 
> where I'm going with it yet. But at the very least I want lots of 
> examples which, even in passing, semi-document the kind of stuff which 
> people ask about
> on python-win32 and python-list.
>
> Enough babble from me. Have a look.
>
> TJG
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32


From Ron.Henderson at dreamworks.com  Thu May 22 19:20:40 2008
From: Ron.Henderson at dreamworks.com (Ron Henderson)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:20:40 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] MSProject and export maps
In-Reply-To: <48353DF2.2020505@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <4834E277.8010507@anim.dreamworks.com>
	<48353DF2.2020505@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <4835AB68.4090209@dreamworks.com>

My guess is that it *is* a Python problem somewhere in the win32com 
bindings, based on the fact that executing a macro seems to do the right 
thing but going directly through the com API from Python does not.

The macro executes essentially the same functionality:

Sub my_export()
     FileSaveAs name:="...", formatId:="MSProject.CSV", map:="My Map"
End Sub

Tim Golden wrote:

> Hopefully someone here will have a clue (altho' it won't be me :) )
> But have you tried posting to an MS-specific group? It doesn't
> look to be a Python issue specifically?


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Thu May 22 19:42:31 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 18:42:31 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] MSProject and export maps
In-Reply-To: <4835AB68.4090209@dreamworks.com>
References: <4834E277.8010507@anim.dreamworks.com>	<48353DF2.2020505@timgolden.me.uk>
	<4835AB68.4090209@dreamworks.com>
Message-ID: <4835B087.10406@timgolden.me.uk>

Ron Henderson wrote:
> My guess is that it *is* a Python problem somewhere in the win32com 
> bindings, based on the fact that executing a macro seems to do the right 
> thing but going directly through the com API from Python does not.

Ah. You cunningly missed that out from your previous description ;)
(All right; now I read it more carefully I see that it's
there really. Oh well).

> The macro executes essentially the same functionality:
> 
> Sub my_export()
>     FileSaveAs name:="...", formatId:="MSProject.CSV", map:="My Map"
> End Sub

If I get a chance tomorrow I'll have a look on a machine
with MS Project installed. Not near one here.

TJG

From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk  Thu May 22 20:37:14 2008
From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 19:37:14 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <4835BD5A.9040205@voidspace.org.uk>

Hello Tim,

I posted the link on Twitter, and got a response back asking if there 
would be documentation on deployment - py2exe, PyInstaller etc.

Whilst I doubt you can be expected to be a fount of *all* knowledge, 
perhaps links or summaries of these topics could be good.

Michael Foord
http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/

Tim Golden wrote:
> I have a request of the python-win32 community. Have a look at:
>
> http://timgolden.me.uk/python-on-windows/
>
> In particular, click through to the section on the Registry (which is 
> the only section which has anything useful in it!)
> and then tell me what you think. About anything. The contents,
> the style, the colours, the colors, the depth of examples, the
> notes. What should be there? What shouldn't? How much overlap
> there should be with other sources of documentation? How much
> should just be links across? Should I reproduce the pywin32 docs
> verbatim. (Difficult: I've got a branch which is trying. Very trying).
> Anything.
>
> Points to bear in mind:
>
>  * This is very alpha
>  * I'm using Sphinx but I've done very little with its capabilities
>  * The examples I've put together work: you can drop them straight 
> onto an interpreter window and run them. But is that a desirable goal.
>  * My intention is that this be a community effort. (The source is 
> actually
> hosted at Google Code).
>  * This URL (probably) won't be its final resting place.
>
> In particular, it will be very clear as you read that I'm 100% sure 
> where I'm going with it yet. But at the very least I want lots of 
> examples which, even in passing, semi-document the kind of stuff which 
> people ask about
> on python-win32 and python-list.
>
> Enough babble from me. Have a look.
>
> TJG
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Thu May 22 20:50:06 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 19:50:06 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <4835BD5A.9040205@voidspace.org.uk>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
	<4835BD5A.9040205@voidspace.org.uk>
Message-ID: <4835C05E.4030302@timgolden.me.uk>

Michael Foord wrote:
> Hello Tim,
> 
> I posted the link on Twitter, and got a response back asking if there 
> would be documentation on deployment - py2exe, PyInstaller etc.
> 
> Whilst I doubt you can be expected to be a fount of *all* knowledge, 
> perhaps links or summaries of these topics could be good.

I think the main point here is that, while I expect to provide
impetus and a fair bit of content, I *want* other people to chip
in. At the least, as you've done here, with a "What about...?"
but even better with content or, at least, links. Ideally there
should be some value added above and beyond whatever someone
can find out by typing "Python deployment windows" into Google.

I'm adding stub pages with "ideas" as ideas like this come in
and/or they occur to me. When I've got just a little more substance
to it, I'll publish the Subversion repos. (which is on Google code)
so people can patch against it, or even join the project. (He says,
optimistically!)

TJG

From python at bdurham.com  Thu May 22 21:46:07 2008
From: python at bdurham.com (python at bdurham.com)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 15:46:07 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <4835C05E.4030302@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
	<4835BD5A.9040205@voidspace.org.uk>
	<4835C05E.4030302@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <1211485567.13655.1254609905@webmail.messagingengine.com>

Tim,

Some ideas for high-level sections:

- Creating COM components
- Interfacing to COM components
- Creating NT services
- Sending/receiving Windows messages
- Interfacing to the clipboard
- Interfacing to DDE
- Monitoring processes (Task Manager stats on a process)
- Reading/writing NT Event logs

The News2News site may give you (and your audience) some ideas as well.
>From this site's about page:

QUOTE: Welcome to the FoxPro WinAPI Online Reference, your source of
information on how to use Windows API functions in Visual FoxPro.
Several hundred proven FoxPro code samples make the core of this
reference. Use "copy and paste" and try them now. Sometimes a line of
code is worth a dozen of pages and hours of online searching.

http://news2news.com/vfp/index.php

Malcolm

From rwupole at msn.com  Fri May 23 02:20:01 2008
From: rwupole at msn.com (Roger Upole)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:20:01 -0400
Subject: [python-win32]  MSProject and export maps
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP29E16760528DE270CA48C7A3C10@phx.gbl>

Ron Henderson wrote:
> My guess is that it *is* a Python problem somewhere in the win32com 
> bindings, based on the fact that executing a macro seems to do the right 
> thing but going directly through the com API from Python does not.
> 
> The macro executes essentially the same functionality:
> 
> Sub my_export()
>     FileSaveAs name:="...", formatId:="MSProject.CSV", map:="My Map"
> End Sub
> 

Have you tried using exactly the same parameters in your Python code?
It's using Format=3 instead of FormatId.

If that doesn't get it, it may have something to do with the default
values for arguments that you're not passing.

          Roger


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Fri May 23 10:44:37 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 09:44:37 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] MSProject and export maps
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP29E16760528DE270CA48C7A3C10@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP29E16760528DE270CA48C7A3C10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <483683F5.5030901@timgolden.me.uk>

Roger Upole wrote:
> Ron Henderson wrote:
>> My guess is that it *is* a Python problem somewhere in the win32com 
>> bindings, based on the fact that executing a macro seems to do the 
>> right thing but going directly through the com API from Python does not.
>>
>> The macro executes essentially the same functionality:
>>
>> Sub my_export()
>>     FileSaveAs name:="...", formatId:="MSProject.CSV", map:="My Map"
>> End Sub
>>
> 
> Have you tried using exactly the same parameters in your Python code?
> It's using Format=3 instead of FormatId.
> 
> If that doesn't get it, it may have something to do with the default
> values for arguments that you're not passing.

This works for me (I basically recorded a Macro and reproduced it):

<code>
import win32com.client

project = win32com.client.Dispatch ("MSProject.Application")
project.FileOpen ("c:/temp/p1.mpp")
project.FileSaveAs (Name="c:/temp/p2.csv", FormatID="MSProject.CSV", Map="p1")
project.FileClose (Save=0)
project.FileQuit ()

</code>

TJG

From graemeglass at gmail.com  Fri May 23 10:48:46 2008
From: graemeglass at gmail.com (Graeme Glass)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 10:48:46 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <ead817660805230148w778808f8x1e96e6120f7e5187@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Tim Golden <mail at timgolden.me.uk> wrote:

> I have a request of the python-win32 community. Have a look at:
>
> http://timgolden.me.uk/python-on-windows/
>
> In particular, click through to the section on the Registry (which is the
> only section which has anything useful in it!)
> and then tell me what you think. About anything. The contents,
> the style, the colours, the colors, the depth of examples, the
> notes. What should be there? What shouldn't? How much overlap
> there should be with other sources of documentation? How much
> should just be links across? Should I reproduce the pywin32 docs
> verbatim. (Difficult: I've got a branch which is trying. Very trying).
> Anything.
>
> Points to bear in mind:
>
>  * This is very alpha
>  * I'm using Sphinx but I've done very little with its capabilities
>  * The examples I've put together work: you can drop them straight onto an
> interpreter window and run them. But is that a desirable goal.
>  * My intention is that this be a community effort. (The source is actually
> hosted at Google Code).
>  * This URL (probably) won't be its final resting place.
>
> In particular, it will be very clear as you read that I'm 100% sure where
> I'm going with it yet. But at the very least I want lots of examples which,
> even in passing, semi-document the kind of stuff which people ask about
> on python-win32 and python-list.
>
> Enough babble from me. Have a look.
>
> TJG
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>


Thanks for this Tim,
I think the site is layed out nicely and easy to navigate, and will be a
great edition for anyone searching for resources on programming in the win32
domain.

Kind Regards,
Graeme
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From mc at mclaveau.com  Fri May 23 11:23:33 2008
From: mc at mclaveau.com (Michel Claveau)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 11:23:33 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <B75C155EEA214A38B614EA7778B3523F@MCI1330>

Hi!

For IPC.Mailslot, if you need, you can look my little example-code (below).
Tested for compatibility with Vista.waitfor.exe ;     and tested  XP <=> 
Vista via LAN
(sorry for my bad english)

@-salutations
--
Michel Claveau




# -*- coding: cp1252 -*-

def mailslotserver(duree=999999, systemname='.', mailslotname="waitfor.exe", 
signal="SIGNAL"):
    """Attend (surveille) un mailslot
    Exemple :
       flag,data=mailslot.mailslotserver( duree=600, systemname=".", 
mailslotname="waitfor.exe", signal="SIGNAL" )
    """
    import ctypes, win32file
    myslot = '\\\\'+systemname+'\\mailslot\\'+mailslotname+'\\'+signal
    nbs=ctypes.c_long(duree*1000)
    hReceive = ctypes.windll.kernel32.CreateMailslotA(myslot, 0, nbs, 0)
    if hReceive == -1:
        data="Access error to Mailslot"
        return False,data
    buffer = win32file.AllocateReadBuffer(400)
    try:
        rc, data = win32file.ReadFile(hReceive, buffer)
    except:
        data="out of time"
        return False,data
    return True,data

def mailslotclient( systemname='.', mailslotname="waitfor.exe", 
signal="SIGNAL", data='ABC'):
    """Envoie un message par mailslot
    Exemples :
       mailslotclient( systemname="*", mailslotname="waitfor.exe", 
signal="SIGNAL", data="TESTCLIENT et c'est no?l ?" )
       mailslotclient( systemname="ServeurCPQ", mailslotname="waitfor.exe", 
signal="SYNCHRO", data="Termin?" )
    """
    import win32file,win32con
    #print  23,'\\\\'+systemname+'\\mailslot\\'+mailslotname+'\\'+signal
    mailslot = 
win32file.CreateFile('\\\\'+systemname+'\\mailslot\\'+mailslotname+'\\'+signal, 
win32file.GENERIC_WRITE, 0, None, win32con.CREATE_NEW, 0, None)
    #print 24,"mailslot",mailslot
    import time
    time.sleep(0.1)
    win32file.WriteFile(mailslot, data)
    mailslot.Close()

if __name__ == '__main__':
    import sys
    if len(sys.argv)>1:
        if sys.argv[1].upper()[:4]=="SERV":
            flag,data=mailslotserver(duree=9, systemname=".", 
mailslotname="waitfor.exe", signal="SIGNAL")
            print "R?sultat : ",flag,"  (",data,") "
        else:
            mailslotclient(systemname=".", mailslotname="waitfor.exe", 
signal="SIGNAL", data="TESTCLIENT")



From tejovathi.p at gmail.com  Fri May 23 14:18:28 2008
From: tejovathi.p at gmail.com (Tejovathi P)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 17:48:28 +0530
Subject: [python-win32] Py2exe and win32com.shell
Message-ID: <aefc0fa70805230518n258331e7g3205c6fe5acd9157@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all...

I created an exe for my application. While generating the exe, py2exe
reports that win32com.shell module is not found and continues generating
exe.
When I try to run the exe, I get an import error that "No module named
shell".......

I opened pythonwin and tried importing wincom.shell. Its working
fine.....!!!!! Then where am I doing wrong....

My setup file looks like:


#Start here
from distutils.core import setup
import py2exe

setup(options = {"py2exe": {"compressed": 1,
                          "optimize": 2,
                          "ascii": 1,
                          "bundle_files": 1}},
    zipfile = None,
    console = ["Sample.py"],
    name = 'test')
#End here

Thanks..

Tejovathi
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From njp at njp.us  Fri May 23 15:06:59 2008
From: njp at njp.us (Norm Petterson)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 09:06:59 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Py2exe and win32com.shell
In-Reply-To: <aefc0fa70805230518n258331e7g3205c6fe5acd9157@mail.gmail.com>
References: <aefc0fa70805230518n258331e7g3205c6fe5acd9157@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9670a730805230606l8edffa8jca6984ce327666fd@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Tejovathi P <tejovathi.p at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> I opened pythonwin and tried importing wincom.shell. Its working
> fine.....!!!!! Then where am I doing wrong....
>
>

Hello Tejovathi,

Googling py2exe win32com gave this reference among the first few:

http://www.wiredfool.com/2006/11/18/python-and-com-components/

containing this clue:

*The final wrinkle in this exercise is packaging using py2exe. Win32com
needs to be added as a package in the setup.py,

*HTH,

Norm
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From Ron.Henderson at dreamworks.com  Fri May 23 15:11:04 2008
From: Ron.Henderson at dreamworks.com (Ron Henderson)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 06:11:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [python-win32] MSProject and export maps
In-Reply-To: <483683F5.5030901@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <BLU0-SMTP29E16760528DE270CA48C7A3C10@phx.gbl>
	<483683F5.5030901@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0805230608260.1666@dunwoody.anim.dreamworks.com>


Can you confirm that the output is really a CVS (text) file?  When I tried 
this the file that was written was still a binary .mpp file, i.e., the 
FormatID was ignored.

> This works for me (I basically recorded a Macro and reproduced it):
>
> <code>
> import win32com.client
>
> project = win32com.client.Dispatch ("MSProject.Application")
> project.FileOpen ("c:/temp/p1.mpp")
> project.FileSaveAs (Name="c:/temp/p2.csv", FormatID="MSProject.CSV", 
> Map="p1")
> project.FileClose (Save=0)
> project.FileQuit ()
>
> </code>

-- 
Ron Henderson
DreamWorks Feature Animation, R&D
818 695-3199

From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Fri May 23 15:14:43 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 14:14:43 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] [Fwd: Re:  MSProject and export maps]
Message-ID: <4836C343.6070200@timgolden.me.uk>

[Sorry, copying back to list]

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [python-win32] MSProject and export maps
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 14:14:24 +0100
From: Tim Golden <mail at timgolden.me.uk>
To: Ron Henderson <Ron.Henderson at dreamworks.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP29E16760528DE270CA48C7A3C10 at phx.gbl> <483683F5.5030901 at timgolden.me.uk> <Pine.LNX.4.63.0805230608260.1666 at dunwoody.anim.dreamworks.com>

Ron Henderson wrote:
> 
> Can you confirm that the output is really a CVS (text) file?  When I 
> tried this the file that was written was still a binary .mpp file, i.e., 
> the FormatID was ignored.
> 
>> This works for me (I basically recorded a Macro and reproduced it):
>>
>> <code>
>> import win32com.client
>>
>> project = win32com.client.Dispatch ("MSProject.Application")
>> project.FileOpen ("c:/temp/p1.mpp")
>> project.FileSaveAs (Name="c:/temp/p2.csv", FormatID="MSProject.CSV", 
>> Map="p1")
>> project.FileClose (Save=0)
>> project.FileQuit ()
>>
>> </code>

I hadn't thought to check but, yes, it is:

<p2.csv>
Name,Actual_Cost
Do something,?0.00
</p2.csv>

Sorry not to be much more help; I'm not really an MS Project man myself.

TJG


From kevin.horn at gmail.com  Fri May 23 19:41:12 2008
From: kevin.horn at gmail.com (Kevin Horn)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 12:41:12 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <562bcc10805231041x406cd754n9915bf054e6e5b04@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Tim Golden <mail at timgolden.me.uk> wrote:

> I have a request of the python-win32 community. Have a look at:
>
> http://timgolden.me.uk/python-on-windows/
>

Wow, Tim!  Thanks for doing this.


> In particular, click through to the section on the Registry (which is the
> only section which has anything useful in it!)
> and then tell me what you think. About anything. The contents,
> the style, the colours, the colors, the depth of examples, the
> notes. What should be there? What shouldn't? How much overlap
> there should be with other sources of documentation? How much
> should just be links across? Should I reproduce the pywin32 docs
> verbatim. (Difficult: I've got a branch which is trying. Very trying).
> Anything.
>

I'd like to see a little more prose to go with the examples, not just code.

No too much, but enough that the reader can understand WHY a certain task i
s done a certain way (and maybe why you would want to do it in the first
place).

I do like the fact that it's more of  a "cookbook" than "stereo
instructions".
I think focusing on examples is right on target (and I love your other
Py-win HOWTO pages BTW)

Points to bear in mind:
>
>  * This is very alpha
>  * I'm using Sphinx but I've done very little with its capabilities


Sphinx can auto-create "Prev" and "Next" links, which might be useful.

Kevin Horn
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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Fri May 23 21:21:50 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 20:21:50 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
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Kevin Horn wrote:
> I'd like to see a little more prose to go with the examples, not just 
> code. 
> No too much, but enough that the reader can understand WHY a certain task i
> s done a certain way (and maybe why you would want to do it in the first 
> place).

Thanks for this input Kevin. Would you mind just posting
up a paragraph or so of the kind of thing you mean, to
give me an idea of the extent you feel would be useful?
(If you're not au fait with Registry things, just pick
some other Python-Win32 subject which you can write about:
I just want to get a feel for what you had in mind).

> Sphinx can auto-create "Prev" and "Next" links, which might be useful.

Unless I misunderstand you, I think it's doing that, both across
the top Navigation bar and along the left sidebar. Or did you
mean something else?

Thanks for taking the trouble to respond. It is appreciated.

TJG

From kevin.horn at gmail.com  Fri May 23 21:25:48 2008
From: kevin.horn at gmail.com (Kevin Horn)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 14:25:48 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
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On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Tim Golden <mail at timgolden.me.uk> wrote:

> Kevin Horn wrote:
>
>  Sphinx can auto-create "Prev" and "Next" links, which might be useful.
>>
>
> Unless I misunderstand you, I think it's doing that, both across
> the top Navigation bar and along the left sidebar. Or did you
> mean something else?
>

Yeah, i had missed those initially, though I saw them after I sent my email.
I guess I've been trained to expect them at teh bottom and/or top corners of
the page.

Thanks for taking the trouble to respond. It is appreciated.
>
>
> TJG
>

No Problem. :)

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From bgailer at gmail.com  Sat May 24 00:30:04 2008
From: bgailer at gmail.com (bob gailer)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 18:30:04 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
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Tim Golden wrote:
> I have a request of the python-win32 community. Have a look at:
>
> http://timgolden.me.uk/python-on-windows/
>
> In particular, click through to the section on the Registry (which is 
> the only section which has anything useful in it!)
> and then tell me what you think.

Thanks for a much needed resource.

Please omit the space before ( in code. I find that very distracting. 
Example:

print result.Properties_ ("sValue").Value # current

print result.Properties_("sValue").Value # preferred, and how most code I've seen looks.

You said "you can drop them straight onto an interpreter window and run 
them"

It would be quite nice if the Python for Windows Interactive Window also 
worked that way. Unfortunately copying your examples and pasting there 
does NOT work, and that has always been a pain in the butt for me.

I'd also like to see a section on Python for Windows customization. I 
have looked at the (I forget the name of) file that defines keystrokes 
and other goodies, but have no clue as to how to modify or extend it. I 
asked years ago for guidance and got none.

I would love to be able to hack Python for Window for a variety of 
reasons, so would also like some guidance rather than just "go read the 
source".

-- 
Bob Gailer
919-636-4239 Chapel Hill, NC


From timr at probo.com  Sat May 24 01:14:57 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:14:57 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
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bob gailer wrote:
>
> Please omit the space before ( in code. I find that very distracting. 
> Example:
>
> print result.Properties_ ("sValue").Value # current
>
> print result.Properties_("sValue").Value # preferred, and how most 
> code I've seen looks.

Do you understand that this is strictly a personal preference?  Some 
people like it, some people don't.  You are certainly allowed to 
"prefer" one over the other, but it's a bit much to ask someone else to 
change their coding style to match yours, unless you are a paying 
client.  ;)


> You said "you can drop them straight onto an interpreter window and 
> run them"
>
> It would be quite nice if the Python for Windows Interactive Window 
> also worked that way. Unfortunately copying your examples and pasting 
> there does NOT work, and that has always been a pain in the butt for me.
>
> I'd also like to see a section on Python for Windows customization. I 
> have looked at the (I forget the name of) file that defines keystrokes 
> and other goodies, but have no clue as to how to modify or extend it. 
> I asked years ago for guidance and got none.
>
> I would love to be able to hack Python for Window for a variety of 
> reasons, so would also like some guidance rather than just "go read 
> the source".

I think that each of these items is specifically talking about the 
Pythonwin editor here.  Is that correct?  I've never had problems 
cutting and pasting code, although I tend to use gvim and a command line 
instead.  What issues do you see?

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From rdahlstrom at directedge.com  Sat May 24 04:13:45 2008
From: rdahlstrom at directedge.com (Dahlstrom, Roger)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 22:13:45 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
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I'd add to that that I prefer the space, and I only use notepad++ for coding.  Everything worked fine for me.  

My only suggestion was that the navigation was a bit inconsistent on the front page - I had to scroll down to see what the "contents" were - the "registry"
section was hidden at first.  I would have expected that to be in the upper left with the rest of the nav.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: python-win32-bounces at python.org [mailto:python-win32-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tim Roberts
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 7:15 PM
To: Python-Win32 List
Subject: Re: [python-win32] Request for comments

bob gailer wrote:
>
> Please omit the space before ( in code. I find that very distracting. 
> Example:
>
> print result.Properties_ ("sValue").Value # current
>
> print result.Properties_("sValue").Value # preferred, and how most 
> code I've seen looks.

Do you understand that this is strictly a personal preference?  Some 
people like it, some people don't.  You are certainly allowed to 
"prefer" one over the other, but it's a bit much to ask someone else to 
change their coding style to match yours, unless you are a paying 
client.  ;)


> You said "you can drop them straight onto an interpreter window and 
> run them"
>
> It would be quite nice if the Python for Windows Interactive Window 
> also worked that way. Unfortunately copying your examples and pasting 
> there does NOT work, and that has always been a pain in the butt for me.
>
> I'd also like to see a section on Python for Windows customization. I 
> have looked at the (I forget the name of) file that defines keystrokes 
> and other goodies, but have no clue as to how to modify or extend it. 
> I asked years ago for guidance and got none.
>
> I would love to be able to hack Python for Window for a variety of 
> reasons, so would also like some guidance rather than just "go read 
> the source".

I think that each of these items is specifically talking about the 
Pythonwin editor here.  Is that correct?  I've never had problems 
cutting and pasting code, although I tend to use gvim and a command line 
instead.  What issues do you see?

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.

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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Sat May 24 10:22:06 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 09:22:06 +0100
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Dahlstrom, Roger wrote:
> My only suggestion was that the navigation was a bit 
 > inconsistent on the front page - I had to scroll down
 > to see what the "contents" were - the "registry"
> section was hidden at first.  I would have expected 
 > that to be in the upper left with the rest of the nav.

I think it confused me, too. I'm still feeling my way with
Sphinx. By default the TOC includes the page's own headings
and not its children (or something like that). I need to
ask on the sphinx-dev list about options to change that.

TJG

From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Sat May 24 10:27:48 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 09:27:48 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
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bob gailer wrote:
> You said "you can drop them straight onto an interpreter window and run 
> them"
> 
> It would be quite nice if the Python for Windows Interactive Window also 
> worked that way. Unfortunately copying your examples and pasting there 
> does NOT work, and that has always been a pain in the butt for me.

I don't really use the PythonWin stuff myself so I haven't experienced
that. I'll give it a go to see if there's something straightforward I
can do to help there. As a consolation, all the examples are included
.py files, so as soon as I've worked out how to get sphinx to include
them in the doc generation, I'll add links to each so you can download
to a file and run it how you like.

> I'd also like to see a section on Python for Windows customization. I 
> have looked at the (I forget the name of) file that defines keystrokes 
> and other goodies, but have no clue as to how to modify or extend it. I 
> asked years ago for guidance and got none.
> 
> I would love to be able to hack Python for Window for a variety of 
> reasons, so would also like some guidance rather than just "go read the 
> source".

I'll add it to the todo list, altho' I've no real experience in this
area myself so the content might have to come from elsewhere.

Thanks for you input

TJG


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Sat May 24 10:28:19 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 09:28:19 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
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[bob gailer]
>> Please omit the space before ( in code. I find that very distracting. 
>> Example:
>>
>> print result.Properties_ ("sValue").Value # current
>>
>> print result.Properties_("sValue").Value # preferred, and how most 
>> code I've seen looks.

[Tim Roberts]
> Do you understand that this is strictly a personal preference?  Some 
> people like it, some people don't.  You are certainly allowed to 
> "prefer" one over the other, but it's a bit much to ask someone else to 
> change their coding style to match yours, unless you are a paying 
> client.  ;)

[Roger Dahlstrom]
> I'd add to that that I prefer the space, and I only use notepad++ for 
> coding.  Everything worked fine for me.

On balance I'm inclined to stick to my spaces-before style, not
least because I've been coding that way for well over 20 years
and it's not that easy to change, even if I felt well-disposed.
(Which I don't :) )

Apologies to Bob & anyone else who finds this style irksome. As
you might imagine, I find the opposite style cluttered and hard
to read. Likewise I imagine there are many who find my two-spaces
indent style cluttered while I find even four and certainly any
more to be grotesquely elongated.

TJG


From adam at volition-inc.com  Sat May 24 14:36:50 2008
From: adam at volition-inc.com (Adam Pletcher)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 07:36:50 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] COM illegal argument puzzler
Message-ID: <893A44FF792E904A97B7515CE3419146F1ED2A@volimxs01.thqinc.com>

A co-worker of mine is writing a tool to automate tasks in Photoshop, and found a win32 error we can't explain.  And possibly a bug.

The following script generates an error about how Select() can only take one-dimensional arrays:

import win32com.client
ps_app = win32com.client.Dispatch('Photoshop.Application')
ps_app.Documents.Add(128, 128, 72)
 
# select a 10x10 square in the upper left corner of the document
sel_area = ((0, 0), (10, 0), (10, 10), (0, 10), (0, 0))
ps_app.ActiveDocument.Selection.Select(sel_area)
 
The error: 
 
com_error: (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, 'Adobe Photoshop', 'Illegal argument - argument 1\n- Only arrays with dimension 1 are supported', None, 0, -2147220262), None)
File "c:\Python_Scripts\COM\Photoshop\selectionTest.py", line 7, in <module>
  ps_app.ActiveDocument.Selection.Select(sel_area)
File "C:\Python25\Lib\site-packages\win32com\gen_py\E891EE9A-D0AE-4CB4-8871-F92C0109F18Ex0x9x0.py", line 2606, in Select
  , Type, Feather, AntiAlias)
 
The problem is that that method is documented as taking two dimensional arrays. Here's an exerpt from the Photoshop CS3 VBScript Ref doc:
 
docH = appRef.ActiveDocument.Width / 2
docV = appRef.ActiveDocument.Height / 2
selRegion = Array( Array( topLeftH * docH, topLeftV * docV), _
Array( topLeftH * docH + docH, topLeftV * docV), _
Array( topLeftH * docH + docH, topLeftV * docV + docV), _
Array( topLeftH * docH, topLeftV * docV + docV), _
Array( topLeftH * docH, topLeftV * docV))
appRef.ActiveDocument.Selection.Select(selRegion)
 
It makes sense that it has to take a sequence of two-element sequences, right?  Oddly enough, if you run the above code using the comtypes extensions instead of win32com, it works perfectly.  The first two lines then become:
 
import comtypes.client
ps_app = comtypes.client.CreateObject('Photoshop.Application')

Any ideas why this throws an exception with win32com.client/Dispatch?  Is this a bug?

Thanks in advance.

- Adam

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From rdahlstrom at directedge.com  Sat May 24 15:07:28 2008
From: rdahlstrom at directedge.com (Dahlstrom, Roger)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 09:07:28 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
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Ha - you'd hate my code then.  I like a lot of spaces, makes it easier for me to keep the blocks seperated. 

-----Original Message-----
From: python-win32-bounces at python.org [mailto:python-win32-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tim Golden
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 4:28 AM
Cc: Python-Win32 List
Subject: Re: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue

[bob gailer]
>> Please omit the space before ( in code. I find that very distracting. 
>> Example:
>>
>> print result.Properties_ ("sValue").Value # current
>>
>> print result.Properties_("sValue").Value # preferred, and how most 
>> code I've seen looks.

[Tim Roberts]
> Do you understand that this is strictly a personal preference?  Some 
> people like it, some people don't.  You are certainly allowed to 
> "prefer" one over the other, but it's a bit much to ask someone else to 
> change their coding style to match yours, unless you are a paying 
> client.  ;)

[Roger Dahlstrom]
> I'd add to that that I prefer the space, and I only use notepad++ for 
> coding.  Everything worked fine for me.

On balance I'm inclined to stick to my spaces-before style, not
least because I've been coding that way for well over 20 years
and it's not that easy to change, even if I felt well-disposed.
(Which I don't :) )

Apologies to Bob & anyone else who finds this style irksome. As
you might imagine, I find the opposite style cluttered and hard
to read. Likewise I imagine there are many who find my two-spaces
indent style cluttered while I find even four and certainly any
more to be grotesquely elongated.

TJG

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From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk  Sat May 24 15:26:10 2008
From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 14:26:10 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
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Dahlstrom, Roger wrote:
> Ha - you'd hate my code then.  I like a lot of spaces, makes it easier for me to keep the blocks seperated. 
>   

I'm afraid that I abhor them. :-)

Michael Foord
http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: python-win32-bounces at python.org [mailto:python-win32-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tim Golden
> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 4:28 AM
> Cc: Python-Win32 List
> Subject: Re: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
>
> [bob gailer]
>   
>>> Please omit the space before ( in code. I find that very distracting. 
>>> Example:
>>>
>>> print result.Properties_ ("sValue").Value # current
>>>
>>> print result.Properties_("sValue").Value # preferred, and how most 
>>> code I've seen looks.
>>>       
>
> [Tim Roberts]
>   
>> Do you understand that this is strictly a personal preference?  Some 
>> people like it, some people don't.  You are certainly allowed to 
>> "prefer" one over the other, but it's a bit much to ask someone else to 
>> change their coding style to match yours, unless you are a paying 
>> client.  ;)
>>     
>
> [Roger Dahlstrom]
>   
>> I'd add to that that I prefer the space, and I only use notepad++ for 
>> coding.  Everything worked fine for me.
>>     
>
> On balance I'm inclined to stick to my spaces-before style, not
> least because I've been coding that way for well over 20 years
> and it's not that easy to change, even if I felt well-disposed.
> (Which I don't :) )
>
> Apologies to Bob & anyone else who finds this style irksome. As
> you might imagine, I find the opposite style cluttered and hard
> to read. Likewise I imagine there are many who find my two-spaces
> indent style cluttered while I find even four and certainly any
> more to be grotesquely elongated.
>
> TJG
>
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From bgailer at gmail.com  Sat May 24 16:37:10 2008
From: bgailer at gmail.com (bob gailer)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 10:37:10 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
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Tim Roberts wrote:
> bob gailer wrote:
>>
>> Please omit the space before ( in code. I find that very distracting. 
>> Example:
>>
>> print result.Properties_ ("sValue").Value # current
>>
>> print result.Properties_("sValue").Value # preferred, and how most 
>> code I've seen looks.
>
> Do you understand that this is strictly a personal preference?  Some 
> people like it, some people don't.  You are certainly allowed to 
> "prefer" one over the other, but it's a bit much to ask someone else 
> to change their coding style to match yours, unless you are a paying 
> client.  ;)

I agree. Please consider that all of the code examples I've seen in the 
official Python documentation have no space before the (. Most newcomers 
to Python who goes thru the tutorial will learn that way of coding. I 
imagine it would be confusing for them to later see code with the space. 
Same true for Python cookbook. Follow Tim's link to Windows Registry 
Functions 
<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms724875%28VS.85%29.aspx>. MS's 
examples. Ditto. I'm aiming for consistency, and minimal confusion for many.
>
>> You said "you can drop them straight onto an interpreter window and 
>> run them"
>>
>> It would be quite nice if the Python for Windows Interactive Window 
>> also worked that way. Unfortunately copying your examples and pasting 
>> there does NOT work, and that has always been a pain in the butt for me.
>>
>> I'd also like to see a section on Python for Windows customization. I 
>> have looked at the (I forget the name of) file that defines 
>> keystrokes and other goodies, but have no clue as to how to modify or 
>> extend it. I asked years ago for guidance and got none.
>>
>> I would love to be able to hack Python for Window for a variety of 
>> reasons, so would also like some guidance rather than just "go read 
>> the source".
>
> I think that each of these items is specifically talking about the 
> Pythonwin editor here.  Is that correct?

True.

> I've never had problems cutting and pasting code, although I tend to 
> use gvim and a command line instead.  What issues do you see?
>
I copy 2 lines from an example:

import win32api
import win32con

I paste them into the PythonWin Interactive window following the >>>. 
This is what I get:

 >>> import win32api
import win32con|

Where | is the blinking cursor.

Neither line has been executed!

There is no >>>

Whereas pasting the same into the Python interpreter gives:

 >>> import win32api
 >>> import win32con
 >>>

and both lines have executed.

-- 
Bob Gailer
919-636-4239 Chapel Hill, NC


From len200612 at revolutioncontrols.com  Sat May 24 16:40:21 2008
From: len200612 at revolutioncontrols.com (Len Remmerswaal)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 16:40:21 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <mailman.23747.1211532288.12833.python-win32@python.org>
References: <mailman.23747.1211532288.12833.python-win32@python.org>
Message-ID: <483828D5.5080803@revolutioncontrols.com>

Tim,
Could you add "up" buttons to the "previous|next" lines? I always use 
that type of button to regain my bearings in the multitude of pages.
Also I miss a possibility to walk from the start page to all pages 
linearly, if I feel like browsing the lot.
Especially on page one, it seems there are only two links, embedded in 
the text, to move on. Once I've read that first page, when revisiting 
the site, it would be nice to be able to move on immediately, without 
having to recall that the links are at the bottom in the text and scroll 
down to find them.
Apart from that, please continue with providing this documentation. It 
contains a wealth of starting points for all of us that are not fully 
versed on MS APIs.
Thanks,
Len.
> I have a request of the python-win32 community. Have a look at:
>
> http://timgolden.me.uk/python-on-windows/
>
> In particular, click through to the section on the Registry (which is 
> the only section which has anything useful in it!)
> and then tell me what you think. About anything. The contents,
> the style, the colours, the colors, the depth of examples, the
> notes. What should be there? What shouldn't? How much overlap
> there should be with other sources of documentation? How much
> should just be links across? Should I reproduce the pywin32 docs
> verbatim. (Difficult: I've got a branch which is trying. Very trying).
> Anything.
>
>

From bgailer at gmail.com  Sat May 24 16:40:13 2008
From: bgailer at gmail.com (bob gailer)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 10:40:13 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
In-Reply-To: <4837D1A3.8080107@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
	<4837456C.3000902@gmail.com>	<48374FF1.7090706@probo.com>
	<4837D1A3.8080107@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <483828CD.7070006@gmail.com>

Tim Golden wrote:
> [snip]

> Likewise I imagine there are many who find my two-spaces
> indent style cluttered while I find even four and certainly any
> more to be grotesquely elongated.

I also prefer the 2 space indent!

I also realize that when I wrote my previous reply I was not conscious 
that I was replying to the original post. So I referred to you as Tim. 
Sorry for that.

-- 
Bob Gailer
919-636-4239 Chapel Hill, NC


From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk  Sat May 24 18:20:50 2008
From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 17:20:50 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
In-Reply-To: <483828CD.7070006@gmail.com>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>	<4837456C.3000902@gmail.com>	<48374FF1.7090706@probo.com>	<4837D1A3.8080107@timgolden.me.uk>
	<483828CD.7070006@gmail.com>
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bob gailer wrote:
> Tim Golden wrote:
>> [snip]
>
>> Likewise I imagine there are many who find my two-spaces
>> indent style cluttered while I find even four and certainly any
>> more to be grotesquely elongated.
>
> I also prefer the 2 space indent!
>
> I also realize that when I wrote my previous reply I was not conscious 
> that I was replying to the original post. So I referred to you as Tim. 
> Sorry for that.
>

Four spaces is useful so that anything more than a few levels 
indentation really *is* too elongated - it is a good sign that you need 
to refactor your code. :-)

Dropping to two space indent isn't a good way of solving the problem. ;-)

FWIW Guido remarked a while ago that all of google's Python code is two 
space indented.

Michael Foord
http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/

From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Sat May 24 21:05:17 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 20:05:17 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <483828D5.5080803@revolutioncontrols.com>
References: <mailman.23747.1211532288.12833.python-win32@python.org>
	<483828D5.5080803@revolutioncontrols.com>
Message-ID: <483866ED.6020007@timgolden.me.uk>

Len Remmerswaal wrote:
> Tim,
> Could you add "up" buttons to the "previous|next" lines? I always use 
> that type of button to regain my bearings in the multitude of pages.
> Also I miss a possibility to walk from the start page to all pages 
> linearly, if I feel like browsing the lot.
> Especially on page one, it seems there are only two links, embedded in 
> the text, to move on. Once I've read that first page, when revisiting 
> the site, it would be nice to be able to move on immediately, without 
> having to recall that the links are at the bottom in the text and scroll 
> down to find them.

Good points there, Len. I'm always very keen to make
the very best use of navigation possibilities. In this
case I'm using Sphinx (rather than rolling my own) so
I'll have to delve into the docs & templates there to
try to do the right thing.

Meanwhile I'm playing about quite a bit with the first
page since it's the most important one for most people.
Not sure I've got the right balance yet, though.

TJG

From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Sat May 24 21:12:04 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 20:12:04 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <48382816.9030907@gmail.com>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
	<4837456C.3000902@gmail.com>	<48374FF1.7090706@probo.com>
	<48382816.9030907@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48386884.2050101@timgolden.me.uk>

bob gailer wrote:
> Tim Roberts wrote:
>> bob gailer wrote:
>>>
>>> Please omit the space before ( in code. I find that very distracting. 
>>> Example:
>>>
>>> print result.Properties_ ("sValue").Value # current
>>>
>>> print result.Properties_("sValue").Value # preferred, and how most 
>>> code I've seen looks.
>>
>> Do you understand that this is strictly a personal preference?  Some 
>> people like it, some people don't.  You are certainly allowed to 
>> "prefer" one over the other, but it's a bit much to ask someone else 
>> to change their coding style to match yours, unless you are a paying 
>> client.  ;)
> 
> I agree. Please consider that all of the code examples I've seen in the 
> official Python documentation have no space before the (. Most newcomers 
> to Python who goes thru the tutorial will learn that way of coding. I 
> imagine it would be confusing for them to later see code with the space. 
> Same true for Python cookbook. Follow Tim's link to Windows Registry 
> Functions 
> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms724875%28VS.85%29.aspx>. MS's 
> examples. Ditto. I'm aiming for consistency, and minimal confusion for 
> many.

It's a fair point. For now (basically because I can do it faster)
I'll go with my spaces-before convention. When I get a chance to
breathe we can revisit this and other other coding style issues.
All the example code is in individual Python files so a global
search-and-replace should be possible if it becomes desirable.

[... snip description of problems with the PythonWin interpreter ...]

Yes, I tried that to see what you meant. I'm not sure there's
much I'm going to be able to do about that, unless someone
jumps in with a solution. My main point about the examples is
that they're self-contained. (ie you don't need to prearrange
any data or install any modules unless indicated). The ability
to drop them into a Python interpreter window is a nice-to-have
which I make use of whenever I'm posting code.

If anyone can suggest anything here, even in the form of a hint
in the docs, please let me know.

Thanks for your continued interest, Bob.

TJG

From rwupole at msn.com  Sun May 25 01:02:36 2008
From: rwupole at msn.com (Roger Upole)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 19:02:36 -0400
Subject: [python-win32]  COM illegal argument puzzler
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP53B1BA76C04508933BFF9A3C00@phx.gbl>


Adam Pletcher wrote:
> A co-worker of mine is writing a tool to automate tasks in Photoshop, and
> found a win32 error we can't explain.  And possibly a bug.
>
> The following script generates an error about how Select() can only take
> one-dimensional arrays:
>
> import win32com.client
> ps_app = win32com.client.Dispatch('Photoshop.Application')
> ps_app.Documents.Add(128, 128, 72)
>
> # select a 10x10 square in the upper left corner of the document
> sel_area = ((0, 0), (10, 0), (10, 10), (0, 10), (0, 0))
> ps_app.ActiveDocument.Selection.Select(sel_area)
>
> The error:
>
> com_error: (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, 'Adobe Photoshop',
> 'Illegal argument - argument 1\n- Only arrays with dimension 1 are
> supported', None, 0, -2147220262), None)
> File "c:\Python_Scripts\COM\Photoshop\selectionTest.py", line 7, in
> <module>
>  ps_app.ActiveDocument.Selection.Select(sel_area)
> File
> "C:\Python25\Lib\site-packages\win32com\gen_py\E891EE9A-D0AE-4CB4-8871-F92C0109F18Ex0x9x0.py",
> line 2606, in Select
>  , Type, Feather, AntiAlias)
>
> The problem is that that method is documented as taking two dimensional
> arrays. Here's an exerpt from the Photoshop CS3 VBScript Ref doc:
>
> docH = appRef.ActiveDocument.Width / 2
> docV = appRef.ActiveDocument.Height / 2
> selRegion = Array( Array( topLeftH * docH, topLeftV * docV), _
> Array( topLeftH * docH + docH, topLeftV * docV), _
> Array( topLeftH * docH + docH, topLeftV * docV + docV), _
> Array( topLeftH * docH, topLeftV * docV + docV), _
> Array( topLeftH * docH, topLeftV * docV))
> appRef.ActiveDocument.Selection.Select(selRegion)
>
> It makes sense that it has to take a sequence of two-element sequences,
> right?  Oddly enough, if you run the above code using the comtypes
> extensions instead of win32com, it works perfectly.  The > first two lines
> then become:
>
> import comtypes.client
> ps_app = comtypes.client.CreateObject('Photoshop.Application')
>
> Any ideas why this throws an exception with win32com.client/Dispatch?  Is
> this a bug?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> - Adam

I think the difference here is whether to interpret the tuple as a 2-dim 
array or
a 1 dim array of 1 dim arrays.  Comtypes apparently does it in the way that
this particular API expects, although other applications may have different
requirements.

There's a patch (#1195096) for giving finer grained control over how arrays
are passed to and from COM calls.

            Roger



From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Sun May 25 09:29:14 2008
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:29:14 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
In-Reply-To: <4837D1A3.8080107@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
	<4837456C.3000902@gmail.com>	<48374FF1.7090706@probo.com>
	<4837D1A3.8080107@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <00ce01c8be39$0b5f08d0$221d1a70$@com.au>

In general, I *try* and stick to the Python Style Guide
(http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/), particularly for new code.  This
makes it easier to contribute code to Python itself, and a number of other
projects (eg bzr) have a policy that requires contributed code conform (and
indeed, they make use of tools to check this).  While I don't agree with
everything in the style guide, IMO more is gained by me following it than by
indulging myself in personal taste issues that really don't matter.  One of
my favourite things about pep8 is that the first real heading is "A Foolish
Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds", so I think its tone is quite
reasonable.

Unfortunately for this discussion, the space before the parens can be found
under the "Pet Peeves" section :)

Cheers,

Mark


From nytrokiss at gmail.com  Sun May 25 22:55:50 2008
From: nytrokiss at gmail.com (James Matthews)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:55:50 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <48386884.2050101@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk> <4837456C.3000902@gmail.com>
	<48374FF1.7090706@probo.com> <48382816.9030907@gmail.com>
	<48386884.2050101@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <8a6b8e350805251355q4594b6ebm9e18690f4362d841@mail.gmail.com>

Great site. I like the idea and am going to start posting some code..

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Tim Golden <mail at timgolden.me.uk> wrote:

> bob gailer wrote:
>
>> Tim Roberts wrote:
>>
>>> bob gailer wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please omit the space before ( in code. I find that very distracting.
>>>> Example:
>>>>
>>>> print result.Properties_ ("sValue").Value # current
>>>>
>>>> print result.Properties_("sValue").Value # preferred, and how most code
>>>> I've seen looks.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you understand that this is strictly a personal preference?  Some
>>> people like it, some people don't.  You are certainly allowed to "prefer"
>>> one over the other, but it's a bit much to ask someone else to change their
>>> coding style to match yours, unless you are a paying client.  ;)
>>>
>>
>> I agree. Please consider that all of the code examples I've seen in the
>> official Python documentation have no space before the (. Most newcomers to
>> Python who goes thru the tutorial will learn that way of coding. I imagine
>> it would be confusing for them to later see code with the space. Same true
>> for Python cookbook. Follow Tim's link to Windows Registry Functions <
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms724875%28VS.85%29.aspx>. MS's
>> examples. Ditto. I'm aiming for consistency, and minimal confusion for many.
>>
>
> It's a fair point. For now (basically because I can do it faster)
> I'll go with my spaces-before convention. When I get a chance to
> breathe we can revisit this and other other coding style issues.
> All the example code is in individual Python files so a global
> search-and-replace should be possible if it becomes desirable.
>
> [... snip description of problems with the PythonWin interpreter ...]
>
> Yes, I tried that to see what you meant. I'm not sure there's
> much I'm going to be able to do about that, unless someone
> jumps in with a solution. My main point about the examples is
> that they're self-contained. (ie you don't need to prearrange
> any data or install any modules unless indicated). The ability
> to drop them into a Python interpreter window is a nice-to-have
> which I make use of whenever I'm posting code.
>
> If anyone can suggest anything here, even in the form of a hint
> in the docs, please let me know.
>
> Thanks for your continued interest, Bob.
>
> TJG
>
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From bgailer at gmail.com  Mon May 26 04:45:35 2008
From: bgailer at gmail.com (bob gailer)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:45:35 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
In-Reply-To: <00ce01c8be39$0b5f08d0$221d1a70$@com.au>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>	<4837456C.3000902@gmail.com>	<48374FF1.7090706@probo.com>	<4837D1A3.8080107@timgolden.me.uk>
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Mark Hammond wrote:
> In general, I *try* and stick to the Python Style Guide
> (http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/)

Interesting. I don't like the idea of 2 spaces after a period. Internet 
research on this topic seems to favor one space.

I notice when a PEP is set in monospace there are 2 spaces after 
periods, otherwise 1 space. That seems inconsistent.

-- 
Bob Gailer
919-636-4239 Chapel Hill, NC


From Andrew.MacIntyre at acma.gov.au  Mon May 26 06:04:21 2008
From: Andrew.MacIntyre at acma.gov.au (Andrew MacIntyre)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 14:04:21 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
	[SEC=PERSONAL]
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> Interesting. I don't like the idea of 2 spaces after a period. 
> Internet research on this topic seems to favor one space.
> 
> I notice when a PEP is set in monospace there are 2 spaces after 
> periods, otherwise 1 space. That seems inconsistent.

It's not as inconsistent as might seem, as the two spaces after a period
rule comes from monospaced typewriters where the period occupies a full
character width.  The 1 space after a period rule applies to
proportional fonts fonts where the period is much narrower than the
adjacent characters or the space.

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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Mon May 26 07:37:42 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 06:37:42 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
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bob gailer wrote:
> Mark Hammond wrote:
>> In general, I *try* and stick to the Python Style Guide
>> (http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/)
> 
> Interesting. I don't like the idea of 2 spaces after a period. Internet 
> research on this topic seems to favor one space.

As it happens I'm with you on this one, but it's one of those
aesthetic things where there's no "right" answer: some people
prefer one approach; some another. Any organisation setting out
its stall simply opts for some position to achieve consistency. [*]
As Mark H pointed out earlier, some (most?) projects will insist
on your following their style guidelines, which seems fair enough.

However I don't see those guidelines (PEP8 in our case) as meaning
that I should format *my* code, even code which is published, in
the same way if it doesn't suit me. Opinions definitely vary on
this matter :)

TJG

[*] Notwithstanding proportional vs fixed differences!

From tejovathi.p at gmail.com  Mon May 26 14:39:54 2008
From: tejovathi.p at gmail.com (Tejovathi P)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:09:54 +0530
Subject: [python-win32] Py2exe and win32com.shell
In-Reply-To: <9670a730805230606l8edffa8jca6984ce327666fd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <aefc0fa70805230518n258331e7g3205c6fe5acd9157@mail.gmail.com>
	<9670a730805230606l8edffa8jca6984ce327666fd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aefc0fa70805260539q3c1c3539u2569578c6d185e49@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Norm..

Thanks for your reply,.. I tried to include the win32com package using
"includes" option as well as "package" option. But still
the same error reappears " Import error: No module named shell" !!

Any pointers????

-Teja




On 5/23/08, Norm Petterson <njp at njp.us> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Tejovathi P <tejovathi.p at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I opened pythonwin and tried importing wincom.shell. Its working
>> fine.....!!!!! Then where am I doing wrong....
>>
>>
>
> Hello Tejovathi,
>
> Googling py2exe win32com gave this reference among the first few:
>
> http://www.wiredfool.com/2006/11/18/python-and-com-components/
>
> containing this clue:
>
> *The final wrinkle in this exercise is packaging using py2exe. Win32com
> needs to be added as a package in the setup.py,
>
> *HTH,
>
> Norm
>
>
>
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From billburns at pennswoods.net  Tue May 27 02:55:30 2008
From: billburns at pennswoods.net (Bill Burns)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 20:55:30 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Py2exe and win32com.shell
In-Reply-To: <aefc0fa70805230518n258331e7g3205c6fe5acd9157@mail.gmail.com>
References: <aefc0fa70805230518n258331e7g3205c6fe5acd9157@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <483B5C02.3060405@pennswoods.net>

Tejovathi P wrote:
> Hi all...
>  
> I created an exe for my application. While generating the exe, py2exe 
> reports that win32com.shell module is not found and continues generating 
> exe.
> When I try to run the exe, I get an import error that "No module named 
> shell".......
>  

<snip>

Take a look at this page:

http://www.py2exe.org/index.cgi/WinShell

HTH,

Bill

From tejovathi.p at gmail.com  Tue May 27 06:45:36 2008
From: tejovathi.p at gmail.com (Tejovathi P)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:15:36 +0530
Subject: [python-win32] Py2exe and win32com.shell
In-Reply-To: <483B5C02.3060405@pennswoods.net>
References: <aefc0fa70805230518n258331e7g3205c6fe5acd9157@mail.gmail.com>
	<483B5C02.3060405@pennswoods.net>
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hi....

Thanks all.....It worked like a charm!!!!!!!!!

Thanks once again!

-Tejovathi


On 5/27/08, Bill Burns <billburns at pennswoods.net> wrote:
>
> Tejovathi P wrote:
>
>> Hi all...
>>  I created an exe for my application. While generating the exe, py2exe
>> reports that win32com.shell module is not found and continues generating
>> exe.
>> When I try to run the exe, I get an import error that "No module named
>> shell".......
>>
>>
>
> <snip>
>
> Take a look at this page:
>
> http://www.py2exe.org/index.cgi/WinShell
>
> HTH,
>
> Bill
>
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From le.dahut at laposte.net  Tue May 27 12:17:46 2008
From: le.dahut at laposte.net (le dahut)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:17:46 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] Vista, _winreg and "Access denied"
Message-ID: <483BDFCA.6020807@laposte.net>

Hello

With Vista (XP works fine), when using SetValueEx in a script ran by an 
administrator I get "Access Denied". I know that's it's due to UAC so 
does someone know how to do a 'sudo' when using something else than 
CreateProcess ?


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Tue May 27 13:08:19 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:08:19 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Vista, _winreg and "Access denied"
In-Reply-To: <483BDFCA.6020807@laposte.net>
References: <483BDFCA.6020807@laposte.net>
Message-ID: <483BEBA3.903@timgolden.me.uk>

le dahut wrote:
> Hello
> 
> With Vista (XP works fine), when using SetValueEx in a script ran by an 
> administrator I get "Access Denied". I know that's it's due to UAC so 
> does someone know how to do a 'sudo' when using something else than 
> CreateProcess ?

I'm not on Vista at the mo, so this is a very tentative reply, but this
article:

http://www.codeproject.com/KB/vista-security/VistaElevator.aspx

looks useful. Do let us know if it is or isn't because I'm sure this
question is going to come up more and more.

TJG

From mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us  Tue May 27 15:53:07 2008
From: mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us (Mike Driscoll)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 08:53:07 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <48386884.2050101@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>	<4837456C.3000902@gmail.com>	<48374FF1.7090706@probo.com>	<48382816.9030907@gmail.com>
	<48386884.2050101@timgolden.me.uk>
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Tim Golden wrote:
> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">bob 
> gailer wrote:
>> Tim Roberts wrote:
>>> bob gailer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Please omit the space before ( in code. I find that very 
>>>> distracting. Example:
>>>>
>>>> print result.Properties_ ("sValue").Value # current
>>>>
>>>> print result.Properties_("sValue").Value # preferred, and how most 
>>>> code I've seen looks.
>>>
>>> Do you understand that this is strictly a personal preference?  Some 
>>> people like it, some people don't.  You are certainly allowed to 
>>> "prefer" one over the other, but it's a bit much to ask someone else 
>>> to change their coding style to match yours, unless you are a paying 
>>> client.  ;)
>>
>> I agree. Please consider that all of the code examples I've seen in 
>> the official Python documentation have no space before the (. Most 
>> newcomers to Python who goes thru the tutorial will learn that way of 
>> coding. I imagine it would be confusing for them to later see code 
>> with the space. Same true for Python cookbook. Follow Tim's link to 
>> Windows Registry Functions 
>> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms724875%28VS.85%29.aspx>. 
>> MS's examples. Ditto. I'm aiming for consistency, and minimal 
>> confusion for many.
>
> It's a fair point. For now (basically because I can do it faster)
> I'll go with my spaces-before convention. When I get a chance to
> breathe we can revisit this and other other coding style issues.
> All the example code is in individual Python files so a global
> search-and-replace should be possible if it becomes desirable.
>
> [... snip description of problems with the PythonWin interpreter ...]
>
> Yes, I tried that to see what you meant. I'm not sure there's
> much I'm going to be able to do about that, unless someone
> jumps in with a solution. My main point about the examples is
> that they're self-contained. (ie you don't need to prearrange
> any data or install any modules unless indicated). The ability
> to drop them into a Python interpreter window is a nice-to-have
> which I make use of whenever I'm posting code.
>
> If anyone can suggest anything here, even in the form of a hint
> in the docs, please let me know.

Well, there's at least 2 ways around this.

1) Change it to:      import win32api; import win32con   (note the 
important semi-colon)
2) Change it to:      import win32api, win32con 

>
> Thanks for your continued interest, Bob.
>
> TJG
>
> </div>

I personally like to use my delete key, so when I try to copy and paste 
something like this into IDLE or PythonWin, I position my cursor at the 
end of the first import, add a semi-colon and hit delete until the 2nd 
import jumps to the first line.

However, any code that is more than one statement, I tend to copy into a 
blank file and save it before running it, which circumvents this issue 
entirely.

Mike


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Tue May 27 16:00:04 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 15:00:04 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <483C1243.8070606@co.marshall.ia.us>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>	<4837456C.3000902@gmail.com>	<48374FF1.7090706@probo.com>	<48382816.9030907@gmail.com>	<48386884.2050101@timgolden.me.uk>
	<483C1243.8070606@co.marshall.ia.us>
Message-ID: <483C13E4.8040003@timgolden.me.uk>

Mike Driscoll wrote:
> Tim Golden wrote:
>> Yes, I tried that to see what you meant. I'm not sure there's
>> much I'm going to be able to do about that, unless someone
>> jumps in with a solution. My main point about the examples is
>> that they're self-contained. (ie you don't need to prearrange
>> any data or install any modules unless indicated). The ability
>> to drop them into a Python interpreter window is a nice-to-have
>> which I make use of whenever I'm posting code.
>>
>> If anyone can suggest anything here, even in the form of a hint
>> in the docs, please let me know.
> 
> Well, there's at least 2 ways around this.
> 
> 1) Change it to:      import win32api; import win32con   (note the 
> important semi-colon)
> 2) Change it to:      import win32api, win32con

That's fine for two lines, but I can't change a whole script to work
that way :) The intepreter window in PythonWin just doesn't work
the same way as the conventional console-based one, it seems.

> However, any code that is more than one statement, I tend to copy into a 
> blank file and save it before running it, which circumvents this issue 
> entirely.

Fair enough, and I think that my main point is that the code can run
as-is, without needing any kind of setup. Pasting it direct into an
interpreter session is handy to check it runs, but it's not a must-have.

TJG

From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Tue May 27 16:12:34 2008
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 00:12:34 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <483C13E4.8040003@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>	<4837456C.3000902@gmail.com>	<48374FF1.7090706@probo.com>	<48382816.9030907@gmail.com>	<48386884.2050101@timgolden.me.uk>	<483C1243.8070606@co.marshall.ia.us>
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Message-ID: <027101c8c003$b66d2420$23476c60$@com.au>

TimG writes:

> That's fine for two lines, but I can't change a whole script to work
> that way :) The intepreter window in PythonWin just doesn't work
> the same way as the conventional console-based one, it seems.

Yeah - it is pretty dumb.  I'd love to make pythonwin smarter in this regard
though, but the best I can realistically hope for is patches.

Cheers,

Mark


From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Tue May 27 16:02:15 2008
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 00:02:15 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] Vista, _winreg and "Access denied"
In-Reply-To: <483BDFCA.6020807@laposte.net>
References: <483BDFCA.6020807@laposte.net>
Message-ID: <027001c8c002$46d3c390$d47b4ab0$@com.au>

> With Vista (XP works fine), when using SetValueEx in a script ran by an
> administrator I get "Access Denied". I know that's it's due to UAC so
> does someone know how to do a 'sudo' when using something else than
> CreateProcess ?

The short version of my understanding of Vista and UAC:  Firstly, an
existing process can not be elevated - once you are running, you are out of
luck - your option is, basically, re-execute yourself requesting elevation
and have the new process retry the operation (the exception is when you are
using a COM object - in which case you can ask for an "elevated" COM object
- but that is rare, so I'm treating it as the exception :)  If you want to
reexecute yourself, IIUC you are limited to calling ShellExecute(Ex), with
the "verb" set to "runas" - which can be a PITA, but I'm not aware of other
options.  My current best guess for when you might *need* to do this if is
win32com.shell.IsUserAnAdmin() returns true (which needs pywin32-211, which
I promise is in the process of being tested right now :)

As Tim said though, please read MSDN and all other references you can find,
and please correct me if I'm wrong/mistaken/confused/etc for everyone elses
benefit...

Cheers,

Mark 


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Tue May 27 17:47:34 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:47:34 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Docs & bonus: pywin32 docs
Message-ID: <483C2D16.4040707@timgolden.me.uk>

Thanks to everyone who's replied and commented onlist and in private mail. 
Hopefully within the next few days I'll have completed at least one more section
of the docs and I'll announce the project more formally on c.l.py etc. 
Please feel free to continue to comment and to contribute ideas and suggestions.

Meanwhile, as a side effect of needing to link to various parts of the pywin32
docs, I've uploaded an online version of the pywin32 documentation set here:

http://timgolden.me.uk/pywin32-docs

It's merely a copy of the decompiled .chm, very slightly munged to make
the HTML work properly. Hopefully it can be of benefit to others, too.
There's no built-in search, but Google's usually quite quick to pick up
changes, so hopefully in a bit you'll be able to put:

site:timgolden.me.uk/pywin32-docs privileges

into Google and see some useful results.

TJG

From simon.dahlbacka at gmail.com  Tue May 27 19:10:35 2008
From: simon.dahlbacka at gmail.com (Simon Dahlbacka)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 20:10:35 +0300
Subject: [python-win32] Docs & bonus: pywin32 docs
In-Reply-To: <483C2D16.4040707@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <483C2D16.4040707@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <57124720805271010i31bf2600ie5a3eba295d3f3b1@mail.gmail.com>

Very nice, however you might want to fix the code samples to be properly
indented instead of collapsed whitespace..

regards,
Simon

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Tim Golden <mail at timgolden.me.uk> wrote:

> Thanks to everyone who's replied and commented onlist and in private mail.
> Hopefully within the next few days I'll have completed at least one more
> section
> of the docs and I'll announce the project more formally on c.l.py etc.
> Please feel free to continue to comment and to contribute ideas and
> suggestions.
>
> Meanwhile, as a side effect of needing to link to various parts of the
> pywin32
> docs, I've uploaded an online version of the pywin32 documentation set
> here:
>
> http://timgolden.me.uk/pywin32-docs
>
> It's merely a copy of the decompiled .chm, very slightly munged to make
> the HTML work properly. Hopefully it can be of benefit to others, too.
> There's no built-in search, but Google's usually quite quick to pick up
> changes, so hopefully in a bit you'll be able to put:
>
> site:timgolden.me.uk/pywin32-docs privileges
>
> into Google and see some useful results.
>
> TJG
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From timr at probo.com  Tue May 27 19:16:55 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:16:55 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
In-Reply-To: <483A244F.2060701@gmail.com>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>	<4837456C.3000902@gmail.com>	<48374FF1.7090706@probo.com>	<4837D1A3.8080107@timgolden.me.uk>	<00ce01c8be39$0b5f08d0$221d1a70$@com.au>
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bob gailer wrote:
> Mark Hammond wrote:
>> In general, I *try* and stick to the Python Style Guide
>> (http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/)
>
> Interesting. I don't like the idea of 2 spaces after a period. 
> Internet research on this topic seems to favor one space.

I'm not sure where you got that.  Internet research seems to show that 
there is no agreement on this topic at all.  It is interesting to me 
that this single topic (spacing after a full stop) occupies an entire 
Wikipedia article, with no less than 114 referenced footnotes 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_spacing).

If anything, research shows that two spaces after a period increases 
reader comprehension, but font designers don't like the aesthetics.  The 
general trend these days is toward one space, but they'll never stop me.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Tue May 27 19:32:39 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:32:39 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Docs & bonus: pywin32 docs
In-Reply-To: <57124720805271010i31bf2600ie5a3eba295d3f3b1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <483C2D16.4040707@timgolden.me.uk>
	<57124720805271010i31bf2600ie5a3eba295d3f3b1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <483C45B7.7080903@timgolden.me.uk>

Simon Dahlbacka wrote:
> Very nice, however you might want to fix the code samples to be properly 
> indented instead of collapsed whitespace..

Can you point me towards an example?

TJG

From mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us  Tue May 27 19:34:50 2008
From: mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us (Mike Driscoll)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:34:50 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <483C13E4.8040003@timgolden.me.uk>
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Tim Golden wrote:
> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Mike 
> Driscoll wrote:
>> Tim Golden wrote:
>>> Yes, I tried that to see what you meant. I'm not sure there's
>>> much I'm going to be able to do about that, unless someone
>>> jumps in with a solution. My main point about the examples is
>>> that they're self-contained. (ie you don't need to prearrange
>>> any data or install any modules unless indicated). The ability
>>> to drop them into a Python interpreter window is a nice-to-have
>>> which I make use of whenever I'm posting code.
>>>
>>> If anyone can suggest anything here, even in the form of a hint
>>> in the docs, please let me know.
>>
>> Well, there's at least 2 ways around this.
>>
>> 1) Change it to:      import win32api; import win32con   (note the 
>> important semi-colon)
>> 2) Change it to:      import win32api, win32con
>
> That's fine for two lines, but I can't change a whole script to work
> that way :) The intepreter window in PythonWin just doesn't work
> the same way as the conventional console-based one, it seems.
>
>> However, any code that is more than one statement, I tend to copy 
>> into a blank file and save it before running it, which circumvents 
>> this issue entirely.
>
> Fair enough, and I think that my main point is that the code can run
> as-is, without needing any kind of setup. Pasting it direct into an
> interpreter session is handy to check it runs, but it's not a must-have.
>
> TJG
>
> </div>

True enough. I was only commenting on what the OP was commenting on. 
Putting semi-colons throughout would make for pretty ugly looking code.

Mike

From Kyle.Rickey at bakerhughes.com  Tue May 27 19:26:45 2008
From: Kyle.Rickey at bakerhughes.com (Rickey, Kyle W)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:26:45 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Dispatch InternetExplorer.Application fails
Message-ID: <D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984F4518@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>

Whenever I try the following:

>> import win32com.client
>> ie = win32com.client.Dispatch("InternetExplorer.Application")

I get this traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<interactive input>", line 1, in <module>
  File "C:\Python25\Lib\site-packages\win32com\client\__init__.py", line
95, in Dispatch
    dispatch, userName =
dynamic._GetGoodDispatchAndUserName(dispatch,userName,clsctx)
  File "C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py", line
98, in _GetGoodDispatchAndUserName
    return (_GetGoodDispatch(IDispatch, clsctx), userName)
  File "C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py", line
78, in _GetGoodDispatch
    IDispatch = pythoncom.CoCreateInstance(IDispatch, None, clsctx,
pythoncom.IID_IDispatch)
com_error: (-2147024894, 'The system cannot find the file specified.',
None, None)

Any ideas what would cause this? My end goal is to COM into IE and load
an xml file, then print it to PDF.


-Kyle Rickey


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Tue May 27 21:46:10 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 20:46:10 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Dispatch InternetExplorer.Application fails
In-Reply-To: <D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984F4518@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>
References: <D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984F4518@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>
Message-ID: <483C6502.6070001@timgolden.me.uk>

Rickey, Kyle W wrote:
> Whenever I try the following:
> 
>>> import win32com.client
>>> ie = win32com.client.Dispatch("InternetExplorer.Application")
> 
> I get this traceback:
> 
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "<interactive input>", line 1, in <module>
>   File "C:\Python25\Lib\site-packages\win32com\client\__init__.py", line
> 95, in Dispatch
>     dispatch, userName =
> dynamic._GetGoodDispatchAndUserName(dispatch,userName,clsctx)
>   File "C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py", line
> 98, in _GetGoodDispatchAndUserName
>     return (_GetGoodDispatch(IDispatch, clsctx), userName)
>   File "C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py", line
> 78, in _GetGoodDispatch
>     IDispatch = pythoncom.CoCreateInstance(IDispatch, None, clsctx,
> pythoncom.IID_IDispatch)
> com_error: (-2147024894, 'The system cannot find the file specified.',
> None, None)
> 
> Any ideas what would cause this? My end goal is to COM into IE and load
> an xml file, then print it to PDF.

FWIW, you might find it worth looking at PAMIE which uses COM
the way you're doing, but which has already ironed out a few
creases. That said, it doesn't really answer your question. Can
you see what result this script gives:

<code>
import os
import _winreg

hKey = _winreg.OpenKey (
   _winreg.HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT,
   r"InternetExplorer.Application\CLSID"
)
clsid, type = _winreg.QueryValueEx (hKey, "")

print clsid

hKey = _winreg.OpenKey (
   _winreg.HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT,
   r"CLSID\%s\LocalServer32" % clsid
)
server, type = _winreg.QueryValueEx (hKey, "")

print server, os.path.exists (server.strip ('"'))

<code>

This should, crudely, go through the same steps that
the Dispatch process does and should show up whether
IE's not where it thinks it should be. The strip ()
on the server name is because, on my machine, the
location is double-quoted, presumably because it's
got an embedded space which would cause some problem
in the mechanism.

TJG

From Kyle.Rickey at bakerhughes.com  Tue May 27 22:41:21 2008
From: Kyle.Rickey at bakerhughes.com (Rickey, Kyle W)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 15:41:21 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Dispatch InternetExplorer.Application fails
In-Reply-To: <483C6502.6070001@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984F4518@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>
	<483C6502.6070001@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984F45B6@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>

Tim, thanks for your response. I realize where I've got this messed up.

I had turned off Windows File Protection for
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer
So that I could replace internet explorer with my own executable that
calls firefox :) The reason for this is some of our proprietary software
is hardcoded to launch files in IE, but there are advantages to using
firefox instead.

Anyway, that's a bit off topic. I restored the real IE and rebooted and
now
>> ie = win32com.client.Dispatch("InternetExplorer.Application")
works as expected.

I'm also checking out PAMIE but I'm beginning to think I may be going
about this whole thing the wrong way.

Basically, said software above generates reports as xml files. The xml
file references an xsl file used to transform the report. This xml gets
launched and transformed by IE.

What we want to happen is a way to take that xml file and go to PDF. As
it is now we have to print from IE to the Adobe Acrobat PDF printer.
This is cumbersome for the amount of reports that need run. So here are
some solutions I was considering:

1) COM into IE and load the xml, print it to PDF. Works, but we still
get prompted for the file name to save the pdf as (my code could supply
an appropriate name)

2) use some python libraries (libxml2, libxslt) to transform the xml to
html. That part works but now how to I make a pdf from the html file?

3) COM into Adobe Acrobat and generate the pdf (no idea where to begin)

4) Rewrite entire reporting system to use pdf natively. Since the data
is freely available in our SQL server, this would be possible, but very
time consuming.

I'm open to suggestions on a better way to go about this. Also, assuming
I changed the registry to point to iexplore2 (original IE) would COM'ing
into work?

Kyle Rickey
-----Original Message-----
From: python-win32-bounces at python.org
[mailto:python-win32-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tim Golden
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:46 PM
Cc: python-win32 at python.org
Subject: Re: [python-win32] Dispatch InternetExplorer.Application fails

Rickey, Kyle W wrote:
> Whenever I try the following:
> 
>>> import win32com.client
>>> ie = win32com.client.Dispatch("InternetExplorer.Application")
> 
> I get this traceback:
> 
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "<interactive input>", line 1, in <module>
>   File "C:\Python25\Lib\site-packages\win32com\client\__init__.py",
line
> 95, in Dispatch
>     dispatch, userName =
> dynamic._GetGoodDispatchAndUserName(dispatch,userName,clsctx)
>   File "C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py",
line
> 98, in _GetGoodDispatchAndUserName
>     return (_GetGoodDispatch(IDispatch, clsctx), userName)
>   File "C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py",
line
> 78, in _GetGoodDispatch
>     IDispatch = pythoncom.CoCreateInstance(IDispatch, None, clsctx,
> pythoncom.IID_IDispatch)
> com_error: (-2147024894, 'The system cannot find the file specified.',
> None, None)
> 
> Any ideas what would cause this? My end goal is to COM into IE and
load
> an xml file, then print it to PDF.

FWIW, you might find it worth looking at PAMIE which uses COM
the way you're doing, but which has already ironed out a few
creases. That said, it doesn't really answer your question. Can
you see what result this script gives:

<code>
import os
import _winreg

hKey = _winreg.OpenKey (
   _winreg.HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT,
   r"InternetExplorer.Application\CLSID"
)
clsid, type = _winreg.QueryValueEx (hKey, "")

print clsid

hKey = _winreg.OpenKey (
   _winreg.HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT,
   r"CLSID\%s\LocalServer32" % clsid
)
server, type = _winreg.QueryValueEx (hKey, "")

print server, os.path.exists (server.strip ('"'))

<code>

This should, crudely, go through the same steps that
the Dispatch process does and should show up whether
IE's not where it thinks it should be. The strip ()
on the server name is because, on my machine, the
location is double-quoted, presumably because it's
got an embedded space which would cause some problem
in the mechanism.

TJG
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From Ron.Henderson at dreamworks.com  Tue May 27 23:08:50 2008
From: Ron.Henderson at dreamworks.com (Ron Henderson)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:08:50 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] MSProject and export maps
In-Reply-To: <4836C330.2030503@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <BLU0-SMTP29E16760528DE270CA48C7A3C10@phx.gbl>
	<483683F5.5030901@timgolden.me.uk>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0805230608260.1666@dunwoody.anim.dreamworks.com>
	<4836C330.2030503@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <483C7862.70705@dreamworks.com>

Thanks so much for trying this out.  You've verified that it's possible 
to get this working.

However, when I execute the same code, the file "p2.csv" is exactly same 
size as p1.mpp and contains binary data, not the text.  Since you have 
it working it must be a bug in either my version of MSProject or 
win32com.  I'm using:

MSProject 2003
Python 2.5.2
pywin32-210

Could you verify which versions you tested with?

Tim Golden wrote:

>>> <code>
>>> import win32com.client
>>>
>>> project = win32com.client.Dispatch ("MSProject.Application")
>>> project.FileOpen ("c:/temp/p1.mpp")
>>> project.FileSaveAs (Name="c:/temp/p2.csv", FormatID="MSProject.CSV", 
>>> Map="p1")
>>> project.FileClose (Save=0)
>>> project.FileQuit ()
>>>
>>> </code>
> 
> I hadn't thought to check but, yes, it is:
> 
> <p2.csv>
> Name,Actual_Cost
> Do something,?0.00
> </p2.csv>
> 
> Sorry not to be much more help; I'm not really an MS Project man myself.
> 
> TJG


From bgailer at gmail.com  Wed May 28 01:59:53 2008
From: bgailer at gmail.com (bob gailer)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 19:59:53 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
In-Reply-To: <483C4207.2030307@probo.com>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>	<4837456C.3000902@gmail.com>	<48374FF1.7090706@probo.com>	<4837D1A3.8080107@timgolden.me.uk>	<00ce01c8be39$0b5f08d0$221d1a70$@com.au>	<483A244F.2060701@gmail.com>
	<483C4207.2030307@probo.com>
Message-ID: <483CA079.4090904@gmail.com>

Tim Roberts wrote:
> bob gailer wrote:
>> Mark Hammond wrote:
>>> In general, I *try* and stick to the Python Style Guide
>>> (http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/)
>>
>> Interesting. I don't like the idea of 2 spaces after a period. 
>> Internet research on this topic seems to favor one space.
>
> I'm not sure where you got that.  

I googled "sites favoring 1 space after a period"

*joke*

I guess I did not read enough. The articles I read seemed to lean toward 
one space.
> Internet research seems to show that there is no agreement on this 
> topic at all.  It is interesting to me that this single topic (spacing 
> after a full stop) occupies an entire Wikipedia article, with no less 
> than 114 referenced footnotes 
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_spacing).
>
> If anything, research shows that two spaces after a period increases 
> reader comprehension, 

For me I notice reading the above (especially in monospace font) the 2 
spaces are jarring, and distract me from the material I'm reading.
> but font designers don't like the aesthetics.  The general trend these 
> days is toward one space, but they'll never stop me.

What's really weird: The Harbrace College handbook says "Two spaces 
follow the period, question mark ...." Yet the book consistently uses 
one space in its own text!


-- 
Bob Gailer
919-636-4239 Chapel Hill, NC


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Wed May 28 09:37:42 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:37:42 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] MSProject and export maps
In-Reply-To: <483C7862.70705@dreamworks.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP29E16760528DE270CA48C7A3C10@phx.gbl>
	<483683F5.5030901@timgolden.me.uk>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0805230608260.1666@dunwoody.anim.dreamworks.com>
	<4836C330.2030503@timgolden.me.uk> <483C7862.70705@dreamworks.com>
Message-ID: <483D0BC6.1030106@timgolden.me.uk>

Ron Henderson wrote:
> Thanks so much for trying this out.  You've verified that it's possible 
> to get this working.
> 
> However, when I execute the same code, the file "p2.csv" is exactly same 
> size as p1.mpp and contains binary data, not the text.  Since you have 
> it working it must be a bug in either my version of MSProject or 
> win32com.  I'm using:
> 
> MSProject 2003
> Python 2.5.2
> pywin32-210
> 
> Could you verify which versions you tested with?

Certainly Python 2.5.2 and pywin32-210. I'll have to
go back to the machine I used MSProject on to check
the other. I'll let you know.

TJG

From theller at ctypes.org  Wed May 28 10:16:54 2008
From: theller at ctypes.org (Thomas Heller)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:16:54 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] Docs & bonus: pywin32 docs
In-Reply-To: <483C45B7.7080903@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <483C2D16.4040707@timgolden.me.uk>	<57124720805271010i31bf2600ie5a3eba295d3f3b1@mail.gmail.com>
	<483C45B7.7080903@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <g1j4do$ftb$1@ger.gmane.org>

Tim Golden schrieb:
> Simon Dahlbacka wrote:
>> Very nice, however you might want to fix the code samples to be properly 
>> indented instead of collapsed whitespace..
> 
> Can you point me towards an example?

Here's an example:

http://timgolden.me.uk/pywin32-docs/html/win32/help/process_info.html

Thomas


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Wed May 28 10:32:22 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:32:22 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
In-Reply-To: <483CA079.4090904@gmail.com>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>	<4837456C.3000902@gmail.com>	<48374FF1.7090706@probo.com>	<4837D1A3.8080107@timgolden.me.uk>	<00ce01c8be39$0b5f08d0$221d1a70$@com.au>	<483A244F.2060701@gmail.com>	<483C4207.2030307@probo.com>
	<483CA079.4090904@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <483D1896.8040007@timgolden.me.uk>

bob gailer wrote:
> Tim Roberts wrote:
>> bob gailer wrote:
>>> Mark Hammond wrote:
>>>> In general, I *try* and stick to the Python Style Guide
>>>> (http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/)
>>>
>>> Interesting. I don't like the idea of 2 spaces after a period. 
>>> Internet research on this topic seems to favor one space.
>>
>> I'm not sure where you got that.  
> 
> I googled "sites favoring 1 space after a period"
> 
> *joke*

<grins>

> For me I notice reading the above (especially in monospace font) the 2 
> spaces are jarring, and distract me from the material I'm reading.

FWIW, I'm with you on that. But I think it's just one of those
aesthetic / what-you-grew-up-with things. You're never going
to find consensus, only an amicable compromise. Or a house-style
to follow.

> What's really weird: The Harbrace College handbook says "Two spaces 
> follow the period, question mark ...." Yet the book consistently uses 
> one space in its own text!

Editors: who needs 'em?

TJG


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Wed May 28 10:32:28 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:32:28 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] MSProject and export maps
In-Reply-To: <483C7862.70705@dreamworks.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP29E16760528DE270CA48C7A3C10@phx.gbl>
	<483683F5.5030901@timgolden.me.uk>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0805230608260.1666@dunwoody.anim.dreamworks.com>
	<4836C330.2030503@timgolden.me.uk> <483C7862.70705@dreamworks.com>
Message-ID: <483D189C.7060002@timgolden.me.uk>

Ron Henderson wrote:
> Thanks so much for trying this out.  You've verified that it's possible 
> to get this working.
> 
> However, when I execute the same code, the file "p2.csv" is exactly same 
> size as p1.mpp and contains binary data, not the text.  Since you have 
> it working it must be a bug in either my version of MSProject or 
> win32com.  I'm using:

(BTW Office Project Standard 2003 11.0.2003.0816.15)

Also, and please don't take this the wrong way, could you post
a screen dump of your interpreter window, showing the (equivalent)
code *and the output file*. I attach mine below. What I'm trying to
eliminate is one of those annoying typo-thinko errors we all make
where we pass the wrong filename or something and don't notice.

<dump>
Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Feb 21 2008, 13:11:45) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import win32com.client
>>>
>>> project = win32com.client.Dispatch ("MSProject.Application")
>>> project.FileOpen ("c:/temp/p1.mpp")
True
>>> FILENAME = "c:/temp/p2.csv"
>>> project.FileSaveAs (Name=FILENAME, FormatID="MSProject.CSV", Map="p1")
True
>>> project.FileClose (Save=0)
True
>>> project.FileQuit ()
True
>>> print open (FILENAME).read ()
Name,Actual_Cost
Do something,?0.00

>>>

</dump>

Because I was reusing a filename, I had to press the [OK] to overwrite
somewhere in the FileSaveAs manoeuvre. Doubt it made a difference.

TJG


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Wed May 28 10:56:25 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:56:25 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Docs & bonus: pywin32 docs
In-Reply-To: <g1j4do$ftb$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <483C2D16.4040707@timgolden.me.uk>	<57124720805271010i31bf2600ie5a3eba295d3f3b1@mail.gmail.com>	<483C45B7.7080903@timgolden.me.uk>
	<g1j4do$ftb$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <483D1E39.8090601@timgolden.me.uk>

Thomas Heller wrote:
> Tim Golden schrieb:
>> Simon Dahlbacka wrote:
>>> Very nice, however you might want to fix the code samples to be properly 
>>> indented instead of collapsed whitespace..
>> Can you point me towards an example?
> 
> Here's an example:
> 
> http://timgolden.me.uk/pywin32-docs/html/win32/help/process_info.html

Thanks, Thomas. Simon replied in a private email with a whole
list of them which I'll be trying to get to soon(ish).

TJG

From gerdusvanzyl at gmail.com  Wed May 28 11:11:24 2008
From: gerdusvanzyl at gmail.com (Gerdus van Zyl)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:11:24 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] Dispatch InternetExplorer.Application fails
In-Reply-To: <D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984F45B6@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>
References: <D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984F4518@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>
	<483C6502.6070001@timgolden.me.uk>
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Message-ID: <91882ea90805280211i2a8398b0k7f9b45a5444be19f@mail.gmail.com>

Have you seen www.htmltopdf.org?

Otherwise might I suggest http://www.openreport.org/; you could then
transform your XML into RML(xml reporting format) into a PDF. You can also
design RML with OpenOffice.

~Gerdus

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Rickey, Kyle W <
Kyle.Rickey at bakerhughes.com> wrote:

> Tim, thanks for your response. I realize where I've got this messed up.
>
> I had turned off Windows File Protection for
> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer
> So that I could replace internet explorer with my own executable that
> calls firefox :) The reason for this is some of our proprietary software
> is hardcoded to launch files in IE, but there are advantages to using
> firefox instead.
>
> Anyway, that's a bit off topic. I restored the real IE and rebooted and
> now
> >> ie = win32com.client.Dispatch("InternetExplorer.Application")
> works as expected.
>
> I'm also checking out PAMIE but I'm beginning to think I may be going
> about this whole thing the wrong way.
>
> Basically, said software above generates reports as xml files. The xml
> file references an xsl file used to transform the report. This xml gets
> launched and transformed by IE.
>
> What we want to happen is a way to take that xml file and go to PDF. As
> it is now we have to print from IE to the Adobe Acrobat PDF printer.
> This is cumbersome for the amount of reports that need run. So here are
> some solutions I was considering:
>
> 1) COM into IE and load the xml, print it to PDF. Works, but we still
> get prompted for the file name to save the pdf as (my code could supply
> an appropriate name)
>
> 2) use some python libraries (libxml2, libxslt) to transform the xml to
> html. That part works but now how to I make a pdf from the html file?
>
> 3) COM into Adobe Acrobat and generate the pdf (no idea where to begin)
>
> 4) Rewrite entire reporting system to use pdf natively. Since the data
> is freely available in our SQL server, this would be possible, but very
> time consuming.
>
> I'm open to suggestions on a better way to go about this. Also, assuming
> I changed the registry to point to iexplore2 (original IE) would COM'ing
> into work?
>
> Kyle Rickey
> -----Original Message-----
> From: python-win32-bounces at python.org
> [mailto:python-win32-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tim Golden
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:46 PM
> Cc: python-win32 at python.org
> Subject: Re: [python-win32] Dispatch InternetExplorer.Application fails
>
> Rickey, Kyle W wrote:
> > Whenever I try the following:
> >
> >>> import win32com.client
> >>> ie = win32com.client.Dispatch("InternetExplorer.Application")
> >
> > I get this traceback:
> >
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File "<interactive input>", line 1, in <module>
> >   File "C:\Python25\Lib\site-packages\win32com\client\__init__.py",
> line
> > 95, in Dispatch
> >     dispatch, userName =
> > dynamic._GetGoodDispatchAndUserName(dispatch,userName,clsctx)
> >   File "C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py",
> line
> > 98, in _GetGoodDispatchAndUserName
> >     return (_GetGoodDispatch(IDispatch, clsctx), userName)
> >   File "C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py",
> line
> > 78, in _GetGoodDispatch
> >     IDispatch = pythoncom.CoCreateInstance(IDispatch, None, clsctx,
> > pythoncom.IID_IDispatch)
> > com_error: (-2147024894, 'The system cannot find the file specified.',
> > None, None)
> >
> > Any ideas what would cause this? My end goal is to COM into IE and
> load
> > an xml file, then print it to PDF.
>
> FWIW, you might find it worth looking at PAMIE which uses COM
> the way you're doing, but which has already ironed out a few
> creases. That said, it doesn't really answer your question. Can
> you see what result this script gives:
>
> <code>
> import os
> import _winreg
>
> hKey = _winreg.OpenKey (
>   _winreg.HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT,
>   r"InternetExplorer.Application\CLSID"
> )
> clsid, type = _winreg.QueryValueEx (hKey, "")
>
> print clsid
>
> hKey = _winreg.OpenKey (
>   _winreg.HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT,
>   r"CLSID\%s\LocalServer32" % clsid
> )
> server, type = _winreg.QueryValueEx (hKey, "")
>
> print server, os.path.exists (server.strip ('"'))
>
> <code>
>
> This should, crudely, go through the same steps that
> the Dispatch process does and should show up whether
> IE's not where it thinks it should be. The strip ()
> on the server name is because, on my machine, the
> location is double-quoted, presumably because it's
> got an embedded space which would cause some problem
> in the mechanism.
>
> TJG
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From Kyle.Rickey at bakerhughes.com  Wed May 28 15:20:36 2008
From: Kyle.Rickey at bakerhughes.com (Rickey, Kyle W)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:20:36 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Dispatch InternetExplorer.Application fails
In-Reply-To: <91882ea90805280211i2a8398b0k7f9b45a5444be19f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984F4518@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>
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Thanks, I'll check out those links.

 

-Kyle Rickey

________________________________

From: Gerdus van Zyl [mailto:gerdusvanzyl at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 4:11 AM
To: Rickey, Kyle W
Cc: python-win32 at python.org
Subject: Re: [python-win32] Dispatch InternetExplorer.Application fails

 

Have you seen www.htmltopdf.org?

Otherwise might I suggest http://www.openreport.org/; you could then
transform your XML into RML(xml reporting format) into a PDF. You can
also design RML with OpenOffice.

~Gerdus

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Rickey, Kyle W
<Kyle.Rickey at bakerhughes.com> wrote:

Tim, thanks for your response. I realize where I've got this messed up.

I had turned off Windows File Protection for
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer
So that I could replace internet explorer with my own executable that
calls firefox :) The reason for this is some of our proprietary software
is hardcoded to launch files in IE, but there are advantages to using
firefox instead.

Anyway, that's a bit off topic. I restored the real IE and rebooted and
now

>> ie = win32com.client.Dispatch("InternetExplorer.Application")

works as expected.

I'm also checking out PAMIE but I'm beginning to think I may be going
about this whole thing the wrong way.

Basically, said software above generates reports as xml files. The xml
file references an xsl file used to transform the report. This xml gets
launched and transformed by IE.

What we want to happen is a way to take that xml file and go to PDF. As
it is now we have to print from IE to the Adobe Acrobat PDF printer.
This is cumbersome for the amount of reports that need run. So here are
some solutions I was considering:

1) COM into IE and load the xml, print it to PDF. Works, but we still
get prompted for the file name to save the pdf as (my code could supply
an appropriate name)

2) use some python libraries (libxml2, libxslt) to transform the xml to
html. That part works but now how to I make a pdf from the html file?

3) COM into Adobe Acrobat and generate the pdf (no idea where to begin)

4) Rewrite entire reporting system to use pdf natively. Since the data
is freely available in our SQL server, this would be possible, but very
time consuming.

I'm open to suggestions on a better way to go about this. Also, assuming
I changed the registry to point to iexplore2 (original IE) would COM'ing
into work?

Kyle Rickey

-----Original Message-----
From: python-win32-bounces at python.org
[mailto:python-win32-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tim Golden
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:46 PM
Cc: python-win32 at python.org
Subject: Re: [python-win32] Dispatch InternetExplorer.Application fails

Rickey, Kyle W wrote:
> Whenever I try the following:
>
>>> import win32com.client
>>> ie = win32com.client.Dispatch("InternetExplorer.Application")
>
> I get this traceback:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "<interactive input>", line 1, in <module>
>   File "C:\Python25\Lib\site-packages\win32com\client\__init__.py",
line
> 95, in Dispatch
>     dispatch, userName =
> dynamic._GetGoodDispatchAndUserName(dispatch,userName,clsctx)
>   File "C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py",
line
> 98, in _GetGoodDispatchAndUserName
>     return (_GetGoodDispatch(IDispatch, clsctx), userName)
>   File "C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py",
line
> 78, in _GetGoodDispatch
>     IDispatch = pythoncom.CoCreateInstance(IDispatch, None, clsctx,
> pythoncom.IID_IDispatch)
> com_error: (-2147024894, 'The system cannot find the file specified.',
> None, None)
>
> Any ideas what would cause this? My end goal is to COM into IE and
load
> an xml file, then print it to PDF.

FWIW, you might find it worth looking at PAMIE which uses COM
the way you're doing, but which has already ironed out a few
creases. That said, it doesn't really answer your question. Can
you see what result this script gives:

<code>
import os
import _winreg

hKey = _winreg.OpenKey (
  _winreg.HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT,
  r"InternetExplorer.Application\CLSID"
)
clsid, type = _winreg.QueryValueEx (hKey, "")

print clsid

hKey = _winreg.OpenKey (
  _winreg.HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT,
  r"CLSID\%s\LocalServer32" % clsid
)
server, type = _winreg.QueryValueEx (hKey, "")

print server, os.path.exists (server.strip ('"'))

<code>

This should, crudely, go through the same steps that
the Dispatch process does and should show up whether
IE's not where it thinks it should be. The strip ()
on the server name is because, on my machine, the
location is double-quoted, presumably because it's
got an embedded space which would cause some problem
in the mechanism.

TJG
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From vernondcole at gmail.com  Wed May 28 17:40:56 2008
From: vernondcole at gmail.com (Vernon Cole)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:40:56 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
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Let's not loose track of the thread here.
The question was whether there should be a space between the function name
and the leading parenthesis, as:
  my_function (arg)
vs:
  my_function(arg)

PEP8 clearly requires the latter.

IMHO any published example code, which is what we are talking about here,
should follow the PEP8 style guide.

(Besides which I personally REALLY hate the extra space.)
--
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From timr at probo.com  Wed May 28 18:46:31 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:46:31 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
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Vernon Cole wrote:
> Let's not loose track of the thread here.
> The question was whether there should be a space between the function 
> name and the leading parenthesis, as:
>   my_function (arg)
> vs:
>   my_function(arg)
>
> PEP8 clearly requires the latter.

PEP8 is a coding standard document for the Python standard library.  
Nothing more.  It is not a mandate for all Python code.  I disagree with 
several of the conventions in PEP8, although if I ever submit anything 
to the standard library, I will reformat it to match.

The key lesson in that PEP is that you should stick to SOME standard.  
It need not be the same standard used by others.


> IMHO any published example code, which is what we are talking about 
> here, should follow the PEP8 style guide.

No, that's going WAY too far.  It is a mandate for the standard library, 
and it is a starting point for new Python coders.


> (Besides which I personally REALLY hate the extra space.)

You are entitled to do so.  I don't like it either, but I will certainly 
defend TJG's right to write his code using his own standards.  I, 
personally, like Camel-cased names with an extra space inside the 
parentheses, both of which are discouraged by PEP8:

    obj = myFunction( one, two )

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Wed May 28 19:36:16 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:36:16 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
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Vernon Cole wrote:
> Let's not loose track of the thread here.
> The question was whether there should be a space between the function 
> name and the leading parenthesis, as:
>   my_function (arg)
> vs:
>   my_function(arg)
> 
> PEP8 clearly requires the latter.
> 
> IMHO any published example code, which is what we are talking about 
> here, should follow the PEP8 style guide.
> 
> (Besides which I personally REALLY hate the extra space.)

(Whistles quietly to himself and carries on trying to
generate as much useful documentation as he can while
holding down a day job and looking after a boys' club
at weekends :) )

TJG


From vernondcole at gmail.com  Wed May 28 19:56:14 2008
From: vernondcole at gmail.com (Vernon Cole)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:56:14 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
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Tim:
  I think you missed my point...
As you say, the PEP8 style guide "is a starting point for new Python
coders."
That is precisely why it ought to be followed in sample code.

I normally format my function calls exactly the way you do, and I do so in
open source code which I contribute to the community. That is not EXAMPLE
code which also works, it is working code which might be used as an example:
a subtle but important difference.
--
Vernon Cole

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Tim Roberts <timr at probo.com> wrote:

> Vernon Cole wrote:
>
>> Let's not loose track of the thread here.
>> The question was whether there should be a space between the function name
>> and the leading parenthesis, as:
>>  my_function (arg)
>> vs:
>>  my_function(arg)
>>
>> PEP8 clearly requires the latter.
>>
>
> PEP8 is a coding standard document for the Python standard library.
>  Nothing more.  It is not a mandate for all Python code.  I disagree with
> several of the conventions in PEP8, although if I ever submit anything to
> the standard library, I will reformat it to match.
>
> The key lesson in that PEP is that you should stick to SOME standard.  It
> need not be the same standard used by others.
>
>
>  IMHO any published example code, which is what we are talking about here,
>> should follow the PEP8 style guide.
>>
>
> No, that's going WAY too far.  It is a mandate for the standard library,
> and it is a starting point for new Python coders.
>
>
>  (Besides which I personally REALLY hate the extra space.)
>>
>
> You are entitled to do so.  I don't like it either, but I will certainly
> defend TJG's right to write his code using his own standards.  I,
> personally, like Camel-cased names with an extra space inside the
> parentheses, both of which are discouraged by PEP8:
>
>   obj = myFunction( one, two )
>
> --
> Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
> Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
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From rdahlstrom at directedge.com  Wed May 28 20:15:35 2008
From: rdahlstrom at directedge.com (Dahlstrom, Roger)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:15:35 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
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I think there are perhaps billions of people who get down on their knees every day and pray to whatever god they believe in that they had such problems as a
space between a function name and a parenthesis.  For crying out loud, it's a simple search/replace at *worst* to change this to be however you want it.

________________________________

From: python-win32-bounces at python.org [mailto:python-win32-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Vernon Cole
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:56 PM
To: Python-Win32 List
Subject: Re: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue


Tim:
  I think you missed my point...
As you say, the PEP8 style guide "is a starting point for new Python coders."
That is precisely why it ought to be followed in sample code.

I normally format my function calls exactly the way you do, and I do so in open source code which I contribute to the community. That is not EXAMPLE code which
also works, it is working code which might be used as an example: a subtle but important difference.
--

Vernon Cole

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Tim Roberts <timr at probo.com> wrote:


	Vernon Cole wrote:
	

		Let's not loose track of the thread here.
		The question was whether there should be a space between the function name and the leading parenthesis, as:
		 my_function (arg)
		vs:
		 my_function(arg)
		
		PEP8 clearly requires the latter.
		


	PEP8 is a coding standard document for the Python standard library.  Nothing more.  It is not a mandate for all Python code.  I disagree with several of
the conventions in PEP8, although if I ever submit anything to the standard library, I will reformat it to match.
	
	The key lesson in that PEP is that you should stick to SOME standard.  It need not be the same standard used by others. 




		IMHO any published example code, which is what we are talking about here, should follow the PEP8 style guide.
		


	No, that's going WAY too far.  It is a mandate for the standard library, and it is a starting point for new Python coders. 




		(Besides which I personally REALLY hate the extra space.)
		


	You are entitled to do so.  I don't like it either, but I will certainly defend TJG's right to write his code using his own standards.  I, personally,
like Camel-cased names with an extra space inside the parentheses, both of which are discouraged by PEP8:
	
	  obj = myFunction( one, two ) 


	-- 
	Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
	Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
	
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From timr at probo.com  Wed May 28 20:22:38 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:22:38 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
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Vernon Cole wrote:
> Tim:
>   I think you missed my point...
> As you say, the PEP8 style guide "is a starting point for new Python 
> coders."
> That is precisely why it ought to be followed in sample code.
>
> I normally format my function calls exactly the way you do, and I do 
> so in open source code which I contribute to the community. That is 
> not EXAMPLE code which also works, it is working code which might be 
> used as an example: a subtle but important difference.

But wouldn't you agree that there is a huge difference between official 
code coming from and endorsed by a member of the Python development 
team, and sample code contributed from the private library of a helpful 
member of the general public?

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us  Wed May 28 20:44:14 2008
From: mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us (Mike Driscoll)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 13:44:14 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments - the spaces issue
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Vernon,

> Tim:
>   I think you missed my point...
> As you say, the PEP8 style guide "is a starting point for new Python 
> coders."
> That is precisely why it ought to be followed in sample code.
>
> I normally format my function calls exactly the way you do, and I do 
> so in open source code which I contribute to the community. That is 
> not EXAMPLE code which also works, it is working code which might be 
> used as an example: a subtle but important difference.
> --
> Vernon Cole

I always find it interesting when people flip out over semantics like 
this. This seems especially true when someone is trying to contribute 
back to the community. I get flak every time I talk about my Python 
Extension Building Network because people don't like executables and 
think that everyone should use the command line. I admit that I have 
found it personally discouraging when this happens, which is why my site 
doesn't get updated regularly any more.

I'm sure I'll get some hate mail over my wxPython tutorials soon since I 
use camelCase as Tim R. does. Oddly enough, this seems to be the 
convention in the wxPython camp, which flies in the face of PEP8.

I guess I would recommend that you create a mirror site and reformat it 
to the standards you use. Then Tim can link to your site too. I also 
recommend that you read Aesop's Fable: "The Man, the boy and the donkey" 
: http://members.cox.net/deleyd2/prose/aesop63.htm

Mike

>
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Tim Roberts <timr at probo.com 
> <mailto:timr at probo.com>> wrote:
>
>     Vernon Cole wrote:
>
>         Let's not loose track of the thread here.
>         The question was whether there should be a space between the
>         function name and the leading parenthesis, as:
>          my_function (arg)
>         vs:
>          my_function(arg)
>
>         PEP8 clearly requires the latter.
>
>
>     PEP8 is a coding standard document for the Python standard
>     library.  Nothing more.  It is not a mandate for all Python code.
>      I disagree with several of the conventions in PEP8, although if I
>     ever submit anything to the standard library, I will reformat it
>     to match.
>
>     The key lesson in that PEP is that you should stick to SOME
>     standard.  It need not be the same standard used by others.
>
>
>
>         IMHO any published example code, which is what we are talking
>         about here, should follow the PEP8 style guide.
>
>
>     No, that's going WAY too far.  It is a mandate for the standard
>     library, and it is a starting point for new Python coders.
>
>
>
>         (Besides which I personally REALLY hate the extra space.)
>
>
>     You are entitled to do so.  I don't like it either, but I will
>     certainly defend TJG's right to write his code using his own
>     standards.  I, personally, like Camel-cased names with an extra
>     space inside the parentheses, both of which are discouraged by PEP8:
>
>       obj = myFunction( one, two )
>
>
>     -- 
>     Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com <mailto:timr at probo.com>
>     Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     python-win32 mailing list
>     python-win32 at python.org <mailto:python-win32 at python.org>
>     http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
>
>


From bgailer at gmail.com  Wed May 28 21:03:40 2008
From: bgailer at gmail.com (bob gailer)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:03:40 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Concerns with PythonWin documentation
Message-ID: <483DAC8C.7000309@gmail.com>

A few years ago I wrote on this subject and never had a response. Since 
Tim has put the docs on the Web I revisited them. And I still have 
questions and concerns. So here goes:

Under Keyboard Bindings:
What does "Common Keystrokes" mean?
What does "Builtin Keystrokes" mean? How are they different from Common 
Keystrokes?
How does mention of Scintilla help me understand or use PyWin in this 
document?
Why is Ctrl+ followed by upper case letters when one must use the lower 
case equivalent?
Ctrl+T says Transpose (swap) the current line with the line above but it 
really is <<toggle-tabs>>.

Regarding the default configuration file:

There  is a lot of inconsistency (and therefore confusion) in the use of 
the word Shift.

It is claimed that extensive comments help me create my own customization.
However the comments do not help me understand the syntax or meaning of 
the right side of the =
Why are some words inside << >> and others not?
Where are these words defined? Are there others available? Can we "roll" 
our own?
For example: what is <<paren-open>> What does it mean? What does it do?
Up = <<check-calltip-cancel>>
Does Up refer to the uparrow? What is the significance of binding it to 
<<check-calltip-cancel>>? It seems to me that would cancel any other use 
of that key. Or is this an additive thing?

I am vary lost when looking at the function defs starting with 
AddBanner. I can guess some of what's going on but feel helpless about 
writing my own with success.

Please consider adding explanations for these things so I (and a lot of 
others) could have more confidence. For example I'd really like to have 
a key to "Transpose (swap) the current line with the line above". I'd be 
glad to write my own if I knew how to.

Also where is Ctrl+d documented? It seems to duplicate the current line! 
Are there other undocumented useful key bindings?


-- 
Bob Gailer
919-636-4239 Chapel Hill, NC


From timr at probo.com  Wed May 28 21:15:58 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:15:58 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Concerns with PythonWin documentation
In-Reply-To: <483DAC8C.7000309@gmail.com>
References: <483DAC8C.7000309@gmail.com>
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bob gailer wrote:
> A few years ago I wrote on this subject and never had a response. 
> Since Tim has put the docs on the Web I revisited them. And I still 
> have questions and concerns. So here goes:
> ...
> Under Keyboard Bindings:
> ...
> Why is Ctrl+ followed by upper case letters when one must use the 
> lower case equivalent?

There are actually several reasons for this.

I don't know about yours, but on my keyboard, all of the alpha keys are 
labeled with upper case letters.  That is, I press the Ctrl and T keys 
to get the ASCII value 0x24, not the Ctrl and t keys.

Original ASCII, from whence these names derived, only had lowercase, 
uppercase, and control.  Ctrl-A was unambiguous, because there was no 
code for Ctrl-Shift-A.

The Ctrl+T spelling was also mandated by the old Windows User Interface 
Style Guide.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Wed May 28 22:13:06 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:13:06 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Docs & bonus: pywin32 docs
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Simon Dahlbacka wrote:
> Very nice, however you might want to fix the code samples to be properly 
> indented instead of collapsed whitespace..

Thanks to those who pointed out errors in the code
samples. Since all I've done is to extract the HTML
in the compiled help file, I've fixed those indent
issues which were the result of my over-zealous
stripping, but any errors which were dodgy markup
in the original or invalid links, I've simply left
as-is. I *do* hope to get the time to let the upstream
developers know, but I don't really want to get into
micro-surgery at this point, since I'm effectively
post-processing every page of the extracted .chm
and there are >5,500 of them!

I've reuploaded the pywin32 docs and I hope they continue
to be useful, but the real effort is going into the main
python-on-windows docs.

Thanks to everyone who's contributed to the discussion.
Even the sideshows like spacing issues do throw light
on different people's concerns. You can't please all
the people all the time, but I'll do my best to at
least please some of them.

[
Currently being worked on:
http://timgolden.me.uk/python-on-windows/programming-areas/security.html
]

TJG

From waldemar.osuch at gmail.com  Wed May 28 22:25:39 2008
From: waldemar.osuch at gmail.com (Waldemar Osuch)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:25:39 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] Dispatch InternetExplorer.Application fails
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>
> 2) use some python libraries (libxml2, libxslt) to transform the xml to
> html. That part works but now how to I make a pdf from the html file?
>
I would use lxml for the transformation and wx for printing.
The example below will prompt you with the dialog but
it should be possible to silence it somehow.
Instead of Acrobat Printer I would use PDFCreator.
It is free and one of the myriad options is to automatically save
without prompting for a file name.

For example:

8<------------------------------------------------------------------------------
import wx
from wx import html
import lxml.etree as ET


def get_reports():
    xmlfile = 'report.xml'
    xslfile = 'style.xsl'
    for i in range(3):
        transform = ET.XSLT(ET.parse(xslfile))
        result = transform(ET.parse(xmlfile))
        yield ET.tostring(result)


class MyFrame(wx.Frame):
    def __init__(self):
        wx.Frame.__init__(self, None)
        self.prn = html.HtmlEasyPrinting()
        but = wx.Button(self, label='Go')
        self.Bind(wx.EVT_BUTTON, self.PrintReports)

    def PrintReports(self, evt):
        for rpt in get_reports():
            self.prn.PrintText(rpt)


if __name__ == '__main__':
    app = wx.PySimpleApp()
    frame = MyFrame()
    frame.Show(True)
    app.MainLoop()

From Ron.Henderson at dreamworks.com  Wed May 28 22:49:43 2008
From: Ron.Henderson at dreamworks.com (Ron Henderson)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 13:49:43 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] MSProject and export maps
In-Reply-To: <483D189C.7060002@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <BLU0-SMTP29E16760528DE270CA48C7A3C10@phx.gbl>
	<483683F5.5030901@timgolden.me.uk>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0805230608260.1666@dunwoody.anim.dreamworks.com>
	<4836C330.2030503@timgolden.me.uk> <483C7862.70705@dreamworks.com>
	<483D189C.7060002@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <483DC567.5010101@anim.dreamworks.com>

Tim Golden wrote:

> Ron Henderson wrote:
>
>> Thanks so much for trying this out. You've verified that it's 
>> possible to get this working.
>>
>> However, when I execute the same code, the file "p2.csv" is exactly 
>> same size as p1.mpp and contains binary data, not the text. Since you 
>> have it working it must be a bug in either my version of MSProject or 
>> win32com. I'm using:
>
We're using identical versions of Python and win32com

> (BTW Office Project Standard 2003 11.0.2003.0816.15)

I'm using a slightly different (but nominally more recent) version of 
Project:

Office Project Professional 2003 (11.3.2007.1529.15) SP3

> Also, and please don't take this the wrong way, could you post
> a screen dump of your interpreter window, showing the (equivalent)
> code *and the output file*.

Absolutely. This has got to be either something silly that I'm doing or 
some software glitch in my version of Project or Windows. Here the 
screen dump from my session (I named the input and output files to match 
yours):

<dump>
Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Feb 21 2008, 13:11:45) [MSC v.1310 32 bit 
(Intel)] on
win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
 >>> import win32com.client
 >>>
 >>> project = win32com.client.Dispatch ("MSProject.Application")
 >>> project.FileOpen ("c:/temp/p1.mpp")
True
 >>>
 >>> FILENAME = "c:/temp/p2.csv"
 >>> project.FileSaveAs (Name=FILENAME, FormatID="MSProject.CSV", Map="p1")
True
 >>>
 >>> project.FileClose (Save=0)
True
 >>> project.FileQuit ()
True
 >>>
 >>> print open (FILENAME).read ()
??????
</dump>

I'm not sure how those binary characters will be handled by my email 
client, but essentially the file "p2.csv" seems to have been written out 
as a binary project file, not as a CSV file. If I open the file "p2.csv" 
in Project using "All Files" in the open dialog, it loads as an exact 
copy of the original "p1.mpp".

Thanks for your help. I'm really baffled as to why this isn't working.



From timr at probo.com  Wed May 28 23:00:22 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:00:22 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] MSProject and export maps
In-Reply-To: <483DC567.5010101@anim.dreamworks.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP29E16760528DE270CA48C7A3C10@phx.gbl>	<483683F5.5030901@timgolden.me.uk>	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0805230608260.1666@dunwoody.anim.dreamworks.com>	<4836C330.2030503@timgolden.me.uk>
	<483C7862.70705@dreamworks.com>	<483D189C.7060002@timgolden.me.uk>
	<483DC567.5010101@anim.dreamworks.com>
Message-ID: <483DC7E6.2010408@probo.com>

Ron Henderson wrote:
>
> <dump>
> ...
> >>> print open (FILENAME).read ()
> ??????
> </dump>
>
> I'm not sure how those binary characters will be handled by my email 
> client, but essentially the file "p2.csv" seems to have been written 
> out as a binary project file, not as a CSV file. If I open the file 
> "p2.csv" in Project using "All Files" in the open dialog, it loads as 
> an exact copy of the original "p1.mpp".

Yes.  For whatever it's worth, those first 4 characters have the hex 
values D0 CF 11 E0, which is a hex pseudo-representation of the word 
"DOCFILE".  This is the standard signature for a COM "structure storage 
document", which is the binary format used by all of the Microsoft 
Office programs prior to Office 2007.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From bgailer at gmail.com  Wed May 28 22:53:11 2008
From: bgailer at gmail.com (bob gailer)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:53:11 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Concerns with PythonWin documentation
In-Reply-To: <483DAF6E.4030407@probo.com>
References: <483DAC8C.7000309@gmail.com> <483DAF6E.4030407@probo.com>
Message-ID: <483DC637.70303@gmail.com>

Tim Roberts wrote:
> bob gailer wrote:
>> A few years ago I wrote on this subject and never had a response. 
>> Since Tim has put the docs on the Web I revisited them. And I still 
>> have questions and concerns. So here goes:
>> ...
>> Under Keyboard Bindings:
>> ...
>> Why is Ctrl+ followed by upper case letters when one must use the 
>> lower case equivalent?
>
> There are actually several reasons for this.
>
> I don't know about yours, but on my keyboard, all of the alpha keys 
> are labeled with upper case letters.  That is, I press the Ctrl and T 
> keys to get the ASCII value 0x24, not the Ctrl and t keys.
>
> Original ASCII, from whence these names derived, only had lowercase, 
> uppercase, and control.  Ctrl-A was unambiguous, because there was no 
> code for Ctrl-Shift-A.
>
> The Ctrl+T spelling was also mandated by the old Windows User 
> Interface Style Guide.

Thanks Tim. I thought I had removed comments anent that after figuring 
out what you just said.


-- 
Bob Gailer
919-636-4239 Chapel Hill, NC


From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Thu May 29 01:33:05 2008
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 09:33:05 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] Concerns with PythonWin documentation
In-Reply-To: <483DAC8C.7000309@gmail.com>
References: <483DAC8C.7000309@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00b801c8c11b$302a1080$907e3180$@com.au>

If you can make some edits which reflect your concerns I would be happy to
thrash out the detail - eg, you could restructure things, and leave explicit
questions where you feel the current docs don't cover the info.  That would
make my task much simpler and achievable, but also ensure that you aren't
again relying on *my* best attempts at this, which really isn't going to be
that great.

To paraphrase a .sig that Aahz is fond of: the best way to get correct
documententation would be to submit patches to the docs that includes wrong
information ;)

Cheers,

Mark


> -----Original Message-----
> From: python-win32-bounces at python.org [mailto:python-win32-
> bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of bob gailer
> Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2008 5:04 AM
> To: Python-Win32 List
> Subject: [python-win32] Concerns with PythonWin documentation
> 
> A few years ago I wrote on this subject and never had a response. Since
> Tim has put the docs on the Web I revisited them. And I still have
> questions and concerns. So here goes:
> 
> Under Keyboard Bindings:
> What does "Common Keystrokes" mean?
> What does "Builtin Keystrokes" mean? How are they different from Common
> Keystrokes?
> How does mention of Scintilla help me understand or use PyWin in this
> document?
> Why is Ctrl+ followed by upper case letters when one must use the lower
> case equivalent?
> Ctrl+T says Transpose (swap) the current line with the line above but
> it
> really is <<toggle-tabs>>.
> 
> Regarding the default configuration file:
> 
> There  is a lot of inconsistency (and therefore confusion) in the use
> of
> the word Shift.
> 
> It is claimed that extensive comments help me create my own
> customization.
> However the comments do not help me understand the syntax or meaning of
> the right side of the =
> Why are some words inside << >> and others not?
> Where are these words defined? Are there others available? Can we
> "roll"
> our own?
> For example: what is <<paren-open>> What does it mean? What does it do?
> Up = <<check-calltip-cancel>>
> Does Up refer to the uparrow? What is the significance of binding it to
> <<check-calltip-cancel>>? It seems to me that would cancel any other
> use
> of that key. Or is this an additive thing?
> 
> I am vary lost when looking at the function defs starting with
> AddBanner. I can guess some of what's going on but feel helpless about
> writing my own with success.
> 
> Please consider adding explanations for these things so I (and a lot of
> others) could have more confidence. For example I'd really like to have
> a key to "Transpose (swap) the current line with the line above". I'd
> be
> glad to write my own if I knew how to.
> 
> Also where is Ctrl+d documented? It seems to duplicate the current
> line!
> Are there other undocumented useful key bindings?
> 
> 
> --
> Bob Gailer
> 919-636-4239 Chapel Hill, NC
> 
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32


From bgailer at gmail.com  Thu May 29 03:49:19 2008
From: bgailer at gmail.com (bob gailer)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:49:19 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] Concerns with PythonWin documentation
In-Reply-To: <00b801c8c11b$302a1080$907e3180$@com.au>
References: <483DAC8C.7000309@gmail.com>
	<00b801c8c11b$302a1080$907e3180$@com.au>
Message-ID: <483E0B9F.4020803@gmail.com>

Mark Hammond wrote:
> If you can make some edits which reflect your concerns I would be happy to
> thrash out the detail - eg, you could restructure things, and leave explicit
> questions where you feel the current docs don't cover the info.  

Will do  as best as I can.

> That would make my task much simpler and achievable, but also ensure that you aren't
> again relying on *my* best attempts at this, which really isn't going to be that great.
>
> To paraphrase a .sig that Aahz is fond of: the best way to get correct documententation would be to submit patches to the docs that includes wrong information ;)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>   


-- 
Bob Gailer
919-636-4239 Chapel Hill, NC


From ri at eeda.denso.co.jp  Thu May 29 07:15:14 2008
From: ri at eeda.denso.co.jp (ri at eeda.denso.co.jp)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 14:15:14 +0900
Subject: [python-win32] How to get all the variables in a python shell
Message-ID: <1D61C8BB5122A54798F01ABBFC3E613D071F239F@eed8s05.eeda.denso.co.jp>

Hi! 
 
I'm currently working on a scientific computation software built in python.
What I want to implement is a Matlab style command window <-> workspace interaction.
 
For example, you type 'a=1' in the command window, and you see a list item named 'a' in the workspace.
You double click the icon of the item, and you see its value. You can modify the value of the list item,
1 -> 100 etc,  after which if you go back to the command window and type 'a'  and press enter, you see that
varable a's value has been changed to 100. 
 
So my question is : if you have two DOS command windows running under WINDOWS OS, how can you make 
them share the same internal variable buffer? Or is there any easier way to implemente such kind of interaction?
 
I'm looking forward to your answers. Thanks in advance!
 
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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Thu May 29 10:18:19 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 09:18:19 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] How to get all the variables in a python shell
In-Reply-To: <b7d41f54-0a1d-406d-8fec-da3a11697258@l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>
References: <b7d41f54-0a1d-406d-8fec-da3a11697258@l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <483E66CB.1010003@timgolden.me.uk>

lixinyi.23 at gmail.com wrote:
> I'm currently working on a scientific computation software built in
> python.
> What I want to implement is a Matlab style command window <->
> workspace interaction.
> 
> For example, you type 'a=1' in the command window, and you see a list
> item named 'a' in the workspace.
> You double click the icon of the item, and you see its value. You can
> modify the value of the list item,
> 1 -> 100 etc,  after which if you go back to the command window and
> type 'a'  and press enter, you see that
> varable a's value has been changed to 100.
> 
> So my question is : if you have two DOS command windows running under
> WINDOWS OS, how can you make them share the same internal variable
> buffer? Or is there any easier way to implement such kind of
> interaction?

I stronly suggest you look at IPython [1]. To do what I think
you're describing, you'd need to hack or reimplement the interpreter.
And that's what they've done. ISTR that they even have a branch
which is dealing with parallel instances.

TJG

[1] http://ipython.scipy.org/moin/

From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Thu May 29 10:10:51 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 09:10:51 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] How to get all the variables in a python shell
In-Reply-To: <b7d41f54-0a1d-406d-8fec-da3a11697258@l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>
References: <b7d41f54-0a1d-406d-8fec-da3a11697258@l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <483E650B.5060902@timgolden.me.uk>

lixinyi.23 at gmail.com wrote:
> I'm currently working on a scientific computation software built in
> python.
> What I want to implement is a Matlab style command window <->
> workspace interaction.
> 
> For example, you type 'a=1' in the command window, and you see a list
> item named 'a' in the workspace.
> You double click the icon of the item, and you see its value. You can
> modify the value of the list item,
> 1 -> 100 etc,  after which if you go back to the command window and
> type 'a'  and press enter, you see that
> varable a's value has been changed to 100.
> 
> So my question is : if you have two DOS command windows running under
> WINDOWS OS, how can you make them share the same internal variable
> buffer? Or is there any easier way to implement such kind of
> interaction?

I stronly suggest you look at IPython [1]. To do what I think
you're describing, you'd need to hack or reimplement the interpreter.
And that's what they've done. ISTR that they even have a branch
which is dealing with parallel instances.

TJG

[1] http://ipython.scipy.org/moin/

From rdahlstrom at directedge.com  Thu May 29 13:03:40 2008
From: rdahlstrom at directedge.com (Dahlstrom, Roger)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:03:40 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] How to get all the variables in a python shell
References: <b7d41f54-0a1d-406d-8fec-da3a11697258@l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>
	<483E650B.5060902@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <DE02840141C15249B2FAE5A61B40EA1C04299A@jc1wsmail6.global.knight.com>

-----Original Message-----
> From: python-win32-bounces at python.org [mailto:python-win32-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tim Golden
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:11 AM
> To: Python-Win32 List; python-list at python.org
> Cc: Python-Win32 List
> Subject: Re: [python-win32] How to get all the variables in a python shell
> 
> lixinyi.23 at gmail.com wrote:
> > I'm currently working on a scientific computation software built in
> > python.
> > What I want to implement is a Matlab style command window <->
> > workspace interaction.
> > 
> > For example, you type 'a=1' in the command window, and you see a list
> > item named 'a' in the workspace.
> > You double click the icon of the item, and you see its value. You can
> > modify the value of the list item,
> > 1 -> 100 etc,  after which if you go back to the command window and
> > type 'a'  and press enter, you see that
> > varable a's value has been changed to 100.
> > 
> > So my question is : if you have two DOS command windows running under
> > WINDOWS OS, how can you make them share the same internal variable
> > buffer? Or is there any easier way to implement such kind of
> > interaction?
> 
> I stronly suggest you look at IPython [1]. To do what I think
> you're describing, you'd need to hack or reimplement the interpreter.
> And that's what they've done. ISTR that they even have a branch
> which is dealing with parallel instances.
> 
> TJG
> 
> [1] http://ipython.scipy.org/moin/
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32


I'd try looking at memcached (http://www.danga.com/memcached/apis.html).  No hacking or reimplementation of the interpreter would be necessary, and there's a
Python api available.  I haven't used it for anything production related, but I have played with it a bit, and it's fast and stable.



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From p.f.moore at gmail.com  Thu May 29 13:22:45 2008
From: p.f.moore at gmail.com (Paul Moore)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:22:45 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] How to get all the variables in a python shell
In-Reply-To: <DE02840141C15249B2FAE5A61B40EA1C04299A@jc1wsmail6.global.knight.com>
References: <b7d41f54-0a1d-406d-8fec-da3a11697258@l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>
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On 29/05/2008, Dahlstrom, Roger <rdahlstrom at directedge.com> wrote:
> I'd try looking at memcached (http://www.danga.com/memcached/apis.html).
>  No hacking or reimplementation of the interpreter would be necessary, and
> there's a Python api available.  I haven't used it for anything production related,
> but I have played with it a bit, and it's fast and stable.

Is memcached available for Windows, then? I've heard nice things about
it, but thought it was Unix-only.

Paul.

From rdahlstrom at directedge.com  Thu May 29 13:23:45 2008
From: rdahlstrom at directedge.com (Dahlstrom, Roger)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:23:45 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] How to get all the variables in a python shell
References: <b7d41f54-0a1d-406d-8fec-da3a11697258@l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>
	<483E650B.5060902@timgolden.me.uk>
	<DE02840141C15249B2FAE5A61B40EA1C04299A@jc1wsmail6.global.knight.com>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Moore [mailto:p.f.moore at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:23 AM
To: Dahlstrom, Roger
Cc: Python-Win32 List; python-list at python.org
Subject: Re: [python-win32] How to get all the variables in a python shell

On 29/05/2008, Dahlstrom, Roger <rdahlstrom at directedge.com> wrote:
> I'd try looking at memcached (http://www.danga.com/memcached/apis.html).
>  No hacking or reimplementation of the interpreter would be necessary, and
> there's a Python api available.  I haven't used it for anything production related,
> but I have played with it a bit, and it's fast and stable.

Is memcached available for Windows, then? I've heard nice things about
it, but thought it was Unix-only.

Paul.


----------------------------

It is available for Windows, yes.  As a matter of fact, I've never used it on Unix.


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From mcpacino at gmail.com  Thu May 29 10:38:16 2008
From: mcpacino at gmail.com (McPacino)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:38:16 +0800
Subject: [python-win32] how to change paper size while printing
Message-ID: <62fa579f0805290138s391bb1c5ia7c4d140858ec192@mail.gmail.com>

I have a network printer. the default paper size is A4.
I have tried 2 ways to change the paper size:

1)
p = win32print.OpenPrinter(dp)
t = win32print.GetPrinter(p, 2)
t['pDevMode'].FormName=u'a3'
win32print.SetPrinter(p, 2, t, 0)

these code cause error refuse access, which maybe because of it's network
printer

2)
I get a DEVMODE (dmo) struct by calling win32print.DocumentProperties(0, p,
dp, dmo, dmo, win32con.DM_IN_BUFFER|win32con.DM_OUT_BUFFER),
but I have no idea to apply the DEVMODE to my DC. ( use resetDC()?  it seems
that no resetDC in python)


anybody can give me some hint or sample code? thanks a lot.

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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Thu May 29 14:00:59 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:00:59 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] How to get all the variables in a python shell
In-Reply-To: <483E650B.5060902@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <b7d41f54-0a1d-406d-8fec-da3a11697258@l28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>
	<483E650B.5060902@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <483E9AFB.2040402@timgolden.me.uk>

Tim Golden wrote:
> lixinyi.23 at gmail.com wrote:
>> I'm currently working on a scientific computation software built in
>> python.
>> What I want to implement is a Matlab style command window <->
>> workspace interaction.
>>
>> For example, you type 'a=1' in the command window, and you see a list
>> item named 'a' in the workspace.
>> You double click the icon of the item, and you see its value. You can
>> modify the value of the list item,
>> 1 -> 100 etc,  after which if you go back to the command window and
>> type 'a'  and press enter, you see that
>> varable a's value has been changed to 100.
>>
>> So my question is : if you have two DOS command windows running under
>> WINDOWS OS, how can you make them share the same internal variable
>> buffer? Or is there any easier way to implement such kind of
>> interaction?
> 
> I stronly suggest you look at IPython [1]. To do what I think
> you're describing, you'd need to hack or reimplement the interpreter.
> And that's what they've done. ISTR that they even have a branch
> which is dealing with parallel instances.

Sorry, having seen Roger D's memcached suggestion, I realise I may
have misinterpreted your requirement. I thought that you wanted
a Python interpreter session to share its objects to another window,
hence my IPython suggestion. If you're writing your own console app
and want to share stuff, then there's any number of IPC possibilities.

Roger's already mentioned memcached which I've no more than a
passing knowledge of. But Pyro [1] is often a good bet for these
things, and the pyprocessing [2] module is gaining a fair bit of
traction at the moment. (To name just two out of many).

TJG

[1] http://pyro.sf.net
[2] http://pyprocessing.berlios.de/


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Thu May 29 14:12:32 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:12:32 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] MSProject and export maps
In-Reply-To: <483DC567.5010101@anim.dreamworks.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP29E16760528DE270CA48C7A3C10@phx.gbl>
	<483683F5.5030901@timgolden.me.uk>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0805230608260.1666@dunwoody.anim.dreamworks.com>
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Message-ID: <483E9DB0.5070703@timgolden.me.uk>

Ron Henderson wrote:
> Tim Golden wrote:
> 
>> Ron Henderson wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks so much for trying this out. You've verified that it's 
>>> possible to get this working.
>>>
>>> However, when I execute the same code, the file "p2.csv" is exactly 
>>> same size as p1.mpp and contains binary data, not the text. Since you 
>>> have it working it must be a bug in either my version of MSProject or 
>>> win32com. 

Sorry: flummoxed. I can't see it being the cause, but could you dip into
the generated Python module (from gen_py) and pick out the SaveAs
function and post it up here. Maybe the signature will give some clues,
if it seems to have swapped things around or whatever?

(Clutching-at-Straws)

TJG

From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Thu May 29 14:00:59 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:00:59 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] How to get all the variables in a python shell
In-Reply-To: <483E650B.5060902@timgolden.me.uk>
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From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Thu May 29 15:38:56 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 14:38:56 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] How to get all the variables in a python shell
In-Reply-To: <483E650B.5060902@timgolden.me.uk>
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	<483E650B.5060902@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <483EB1F0.70502@timgolden.me.uk>

[Bizarrely, my mail system seems to be randomly misfiring.
If you've already seen this, please ignore!]

Tim Golden wrote:
Sorry, having seen Roger D's memcached suggestion, I realise I may
have misinterpreted your requirement. I thought that you wanted
a Python interpreter session to share its objects to another window,
hence my IPython suggestion. If you're writing your own console app
and want to share stuff, then there's any number of IPC possibilities.

Roger's already mentioned memcached which I've no more than a
passing knowledge of. But Pyro [1] is often a good bet for these
things, and the pyprocessing [2] module is gaining a fair bit of
traction at the moment. (To name just two out of many).

TJG

[1] http://pyro.sf.net
[2] http://pyprocessing.berlios.de/


From Kyle.Rickey at bakerhughes.com  Thu May 29 15:26:36 2008
From: Kyle.Rickey at bakerhughes.com (Rickey, Kyle W)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:26:36 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Dispatch InternetExplorer.Application fails
In-Reply-To: <6fae95540805281325m34080aa4u88837fe8297f908@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984F4518@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com><483C6502.6070001@timgolden.me.uk><D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984F45B6@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>
	<6fae95540805281325m34080aa4u88837fe8297f908@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6DF913F6ABC69E45836DE3E02551A7F0072737@MSGHOUMBX07.ent.bhicorp.com>

Thanks, I got your example working but unfortunately the results didn't
work good. Here's links to 2 pictures for comparison, sensitive
information removed.

http://www.dsrt.org-a.googlepages.com/bad_report.png
http://www.dsrt.org-a.googlepages.com/good_report.png

It wouldn't let me attach the images because the message was over 30 KB.

Let me give a little more background on the process. Our software
generates reports as xml files that use xsl transformation. The xsl
files are in a separate directory from the xml reports. The pink boxes
in the bad picture are supposed to be bmp files from another directory.
The xml references 1 xsl which in turn does includes on multiple xsl
files.

Lastly, the 'Page n of nn' is the page numbering system. Once the page
loads in IE or FF a javascript function gets called to number the pages.

Are my efforts futile? Or am I missing something simple?


-Kyle Rickey

-----Original Message-----
From: python-win32-bounces at python.org
[mailto:python-win32-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Waldemar Osuch
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 3:26 PM
To: python-win32 at python.org
Subject: Re: [python-win32] Dispatch InternetExplorer.Application fails

>
> 2) use some python libraries (libxml2, libxslt) to transform the xml
to
> html. That part works but now how to I make a pdf from the html file?
>
I would use lxml for the transformation and wx for printing.
The example below will prompt you with the dialog but
it should be possible to silence it somehow.
Instead of Acrobat Printer I would use PDFCreator.
It is free and one of the myriad options is to automatically save
without prompting for a file name.

For example:

8<----------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
import wx
from wx import html
import lxml.etree as ET


def get_reports():
    xmlfile = 'report.xml'
    xslfile = 'style.xsl'
    for i in range(3):
        transform = ET.XSLT(ET.parse(xslfile))
        result = transform(ET.parse(xmlfile))
        yield ET.tostring(result)


class MyFrame(wx.Frame):
    def __init__(self):
        wx.Frame.__init__(self, None)
        self.prn = html.HtmlEasyPrinting()
        but = wx.Button(self, label='Go')
        self.Bind(wx.EVT_BUTTON, self.PrintReports)

    def PrintReports(self, evt):
        for rpt in get_reports():
            self.prn.PrintText(rpt)


if __name__ == '__main__':
    app = wx.PySimpleApp()
    frame = MyFrame()
    frame.Show(True)
    app.MainLoop()
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From mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us  Thu May 29 16:08:16 2008
From: mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us (Mike Driscoll)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 09:08:16 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] How to get all the variables in a python shell
In-Reply-To: <1D61C8BB5122A54798F01ABBFC3E613D071F239F@eed8s05.eeda.denso.co.jp>
References: <1D61C8BB5122A54798F01ABBFC3E613D071F239F@eed8s05.eeda.denso.co.jp>
Message-ID: <483EB8D0.8070705@co.marshall.ia.us>


> Hi!
> I'm currently working on a scientific computation software built in
> python.
> What I want to implement is a Matlab style command window <->
> workspace interaction.
> For example, you type 'a=1' in the command window, and you see a list
> item named 'a' in the workspace.
> You double click the icon of the item, and you see its value. You can
> modify the value of the list item,
> 1 -> 100 etc, after which if you go back to the command window and
> type 'a' and press enter, you see that
> varable a's value has been changed to 100.
> So my question is : if you have two DOS command windows running under
> WINDOWS OS, how can you make
> them share the same internal variable buffer? Or is there any easier
> way to implemente such kind of interaction?
> I'm looking forward to your answers. Thanks in advance!

You might ask at the matplotlib user's group:
http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=80706

Also, I know a few of the regulars on the wxPython list use matplotlib
in their projects, so if you want a GUI instead, you might ask there too.

http://wxpython.org/maillist.php

-------------------
Mike Driscoll

Python Extension Building Network: http:\\www.pythonlibrary.org
Blog: http:\\blog.pythonlibrary.org


From waldemar.osuch at gmail.com  Thu May 29 18:16:11 2008
From: waldemar.osuch at gmail.com (Waldemar Osuch)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 10:16:11 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] Dispatch InternetExplorer.Application fails
In-Reply-To: <6DF913F6ABC69E45836DE3E02551A7F0072737@MSGHOUMBX07.ent.bhicorp.com>
References: <D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984F4518@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>
	<483C6502.6070001@timgolden.me.uk>
	<D1C3406A8484604A9B109FEF6FDA0D984F45B6@MSGHOUMBX03.ent.bhicorp.com>
	<6fae95540805281325m34080aa4u88837fe8297f908@mail.gmail.com>
	<6DF913F6ABC69E45836DE3E02551A7F0072737@MSGHOUMBX07.ent.bhicorp.com>
Message-ID: <6fae95540805290916m37d1cd1egbca3ca09b521dc00@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Rickey, Kyle W
<Kyle.Rickey at bakerhughes.com> wrote:
> Thanks, I got your example working but unfortunately the results didn't
> work good. Here's links to 2 pictures for comparison, sensitive
> information removed.
>
> http://www.dsrt.org-a.googlepages.com/bad_report.png
> http://www.dsrt.org-a.googlepages.com/good_report.png
>
Judging by the output it looks that some of the stylesheet paths are
not resolved correctly.  Why is it so?  I do not know.
In my testing lxml was handling xsl:includes correctly.

>
> Let me give a little more background on the process. Our software
> generates reports as xml files that use xsl transformation. The xsl
> files are in a separate directory from the xml reports. The pink boxes
> in the bad picture are supposed to be bmp files from another directory.
> The xml references 1 xsl which in turn does includes on multiple xsl
> files.
>
> Lastly, the 'Page n of nn' is the page numbering system. Once the page
> loads in IE or FF a javascript function gets called to number the pages.
>
> Are my efforts futile? Or am I missing something simple?

It is up to your boss to decide if your efforts are futile.
I can not comment on that. :-)

If lxml does not work for you use something else to produce the output
Microsoft MSXML is not a bad choice.
Then if you have some custom javascript involved, your original
idea to use InternetExplorer may be the best.

From larry.bates at websafe.com  Fri May 30 03:35:04 2008
From: larry.bates at websafe.com (Larry Bates)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:35:04 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <g1nlkj$n3h$1@ger.gmane.org>

Tim Golden wrote:
> I have a request of the python-win32 community. Have a look at:
> 
> http://timgolden.me.uk/python-on-windows/
> 
> In particular, click through to the section on the Registry (which is 
> the only section which has anything useful in it!)
> and then tell me what you think. About anything. The contents,
> the style, the colours, the colors, the depth of examples, the
> notes. What should be there? What shouldn't? How much overlap
> there should be with other sources of documentation? How much
> should just be links across? Should I reproduce the pywin32 docs
> verbatim. (Difficult: I've got a branch which is trying. Very trying).
> Anything.
> 
> Points to bear in mind:
> 
>  * This is very alpha
>  * I'm using Sphinx but I've done very little with its capabilities
>  * The examples I've put together work: you can drop them straight onto 
> an interpreter window and run them. But is that a desirable goal.
>  * My intention is that this be a community effort. (The source is actually
> hosted at Google Code).
>  * This URL (probably) won't be its final resting place.
> 
> In particular, it will be very clear as you read that I'm 100% sure 
> where I'm going with it yet. But at the very least I want lots of 
> examples which, even in passing, semi-document the kind of stuff which 
> people ask about
> on python-win32 and python-list.
> 
> Enough babble from me. Have a look.
> 
> TJG

Tim,

On my monitors the blue links look "fuzzy".

Table of contents blue on blue is hard for me to read.

While I'm not crazy about the pink background, that is probably a personal 
preference.

-Larry Bates

(Windows XP Pro, running dual monitors at 1600 x 1200).


From rwupole at msn.com  Fri May 30 06:15:53 2008
From: rwupole at msn.com (Roger Upole)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 00:15:53 -0400
Subject: [python-win32]  how to change paper size while printing
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP16C8490AE64953B6A34F59A3BE0@phx.gbl>

McPacino wrote:
> I have a network printer. the default paper size is A4.
> I have tried 2 ways to change the paper size:
> 
> 1)
> p = win32print.OpenPrinter(dp)
> t = win32print.GetPrinter(p, 2)
> t['pDevMode'].FormName=u'a3'
> win32print.SetPrinter(p, 2, t, 0)
> 
> these code cause error refuse access, which maybe because of it's network
> printer
> 

The default access for OpenPrinter isn't enough to set the form. Try
win32print.OpenPrinter(dp, {'DesiredAccess':win32print.PRINTER_ALL_ACCESS})

        Roger


From siddhartha.veedaluru at gmail.com  Fri May 30 08:19:00 2008
From: siddhartha.veedaluru at gmail.com (siddhartha veedaluru)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:49:00 +0530
Subject: [python-win32] Error while listing the Installed Software using wmi
	module
Message-ID: <424b71ec0805292319q13476619q39d81c30762a66f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

The following code snippet gives the error
import wmi
c = wmi.WMI()
for i in c.Win32_Product():
 print i.Name

Output
-----------
Windows Installer Clean Up
Python 2.5.1
Debugging Tools for Windows
Windows Resource Kit Tools
Adobe Reader 8.1.2
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 6
Java(TM) 6 Update 3


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\PyWork\test8.py", line 4, in <module>
    print i.Name
  File "C:\Python25\lib\encodings\cp437.py", line 12, in encode
    return codecs.charmap_encode(input,errors,encoding_map)
UnicodeEncodeError: 'charmap' codec can't encode character u'\xae' in
position 5: character maps to <undefined>


regards,
Siddhartha
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From ton.vanvliet at skynet.be  Fri May 30 09:42:46 2008
From: ton.vanvliet at skynet.be (Ton van Vliet)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:42:46 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <prbv349jnkppdflbloi01gpaq7515f6jpr@4ax.com>

On Thu, 22 May 2008 17:21:47 +0100, you wrote:

>I have a request of the python-win32 community. Have a look at:
>
>http://timgolden.me.uk/python-on-windows/
>
>In particular, click through to the section on the Registry 
>(which is the only section which has anything useful in it!)
>and then tell me what you think. About anything. The contents,
>the style, the colours, the colors, the depth of examples, the
>notes. What should be there? What shouldn't? How much overlap
>there should be with other sources of documentation? How much
>should just be links across? Should I reproduce the pywin32 docs
>verbatim. (Difficult: I've got a branch which is trying. Very trying).
>Anything.
>
>Points to bear in mind:
>
>  * This is very alpha
>  * I'm using Sphinx but I've done very little with its capabilities
>  * The examples I've put together work: you can drop them straight 
>onto an interpreter window and run them. But is that a desirable goal.
>  * My intention is that this be a community effort. (The source is actually
>hosted at Google Code).
>  * This URL (probably) won't be its final resting place.
>
>In particular, it will be very clear as you read that I'm 100% sure where 
>I'm going with it yet. But at the very least I want lots of examples which, 
>even in passing, semi-document the kind of stuff which people ask about
>on python-win32 and python-list.
>
>Enough babble from me. Have a look.
>
>TJG
>

Tim,

IMHO the links could be a bit more visible.

When looking at the 'Where do I begin' paragraph, it took me quite some time to notice that there *were* actually links in there (after being taken there by clicking on the 'Where do I begin' link in the left hand column already several times)

Using Opera and FF on W2K at 1600x1200

Looking forward to using the contents.

Ton.

From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Fri May 30 10:10:51 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:10:51 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <prbv349jnkppdflbloi01gpaq7515f6jpr@4ax.com>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>
	<prbv349jnkppdflbloi01gpaq7515f6jpr@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <483FB68B.9060709@timgolden.me.uk>

[Ton van Vliet]
> IMHO the links could be a bit more visible.
> 
> When looking at the 'Where do I begin' paragraph, it took me quite some 
> time to notice that there *were* actually links in there (after being 
> taken there by clicking on the 'Where do I begin' link in the left hand 
> column already several times)
> 
> Using Opera and FF on W2K at 1600x1200

[Larry Bates]
> On my monitors the blue links look "fuzzy".
> Table of contents blue on blue is hard for me to read.
> While I'm not crazy about the pink background, that is 
> probably a personal preference.
> (Windows XP Pro, running dual monitors at 1600 x 1200). 

Thanks, Larry and Ton. FWIW, my visual design skills are pretty
much nil. The best I can hope for is "clean and workmanlike". 
I inherited most of the Sphinx default styles (including
that red-on-pink for the warning) and adjusted a few, not least
to make a clear distinction from the official Python docs.

For now, I've modifed the styles to something a little more bland,
using the conventional blue for links and a mild grey for the sidebar.
I've left the red-on-pink, partly because it only appears for warnings
and if it jars a bit, well that's probably not a bad thing in the circs.
While I do want the appearance to be both attractive and readable,
I'm trying to avoid spending too much time poking at RGB codes in
the hope of achieving Visual Nirvana :)

The front page is in one way the most important page and I'm not
at all sure I've got it right yet. (Suggestions will be appreciated). But
for now, my focus is getting content in, without which the front page
is so much vapourware.

Thanks v. much for the input. Keep it coming.

TJG

From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Fri May 30 10:32:37 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:32:37 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Error while listing the Installed Software using
 wmi	module
In-Reply-To: <424b71ec0805292319q13476619q39d81c30762a66f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <424b71ec0805292319q13476619q39d81c30762a66f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <483FBBA5.8000105@timgolden.me.uk>

siddhartha veedaluru wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> The following code snippet gives the error
> import wmi
> c = wmi.WMI()
> for i in c.Win32_Product():
>  print i.Name

WMI returns the Name as a unicode object.
You usually need to encode that one way or
another to print it out / save it to a file, etc.

Try this:

<code>
import wmi
c = wmi.WMI ()
for i in c.Win32_Product ():
  print i.Name.encode (sys.stdout.encoding, "replace")

</code>

TJG

From hanni.ali at gmail.com  Fri May 30 15:00:28 2008
From: hanni.ali at gmail.com (Hanni Ali)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 14:00:28 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] building pywin32 on Server 2003 x64
Message-ID: <789d27b10805300600p24997328x737b8a831361f179@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I am attempting to build pywin32 for a 64 bit deployment.

It is necessary for us to use 64 bit python due to objects within our
application exceeding 2GB in size.

I am attempting to do so using msvc 2005 which I know is not ideal, but I
have managed to build the other dependencies (Python, numpy), my attention
is now on pywin32.

Firstly although I have managed to get it compiling, I was not able to use
the instruction:

setup.py build --plat-name=win-amd64

The setup script reported plat-name as not existing.

Secondly is anyone building pywin32 on 64 bit machines?

Although I seem to have hacked it suficiently to get it to compile linking
fails with errors of this manner:

MSVCRT.lib(gs_support.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol
__imp_Get
CurrentThreadId referenced in function __security_init_cookie

I appreciate any help anyone can give.

Thanks

Hanni
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From mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us  Fri May 30 16:54:02 2008
From: mdriscoll at co.marshall.ia.us (Mike Driscoll)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:54:02 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <483FB68B.9060709@timgolden.me.uk>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>	<prbv349jnkppdflbloi01gpaq7515f6jpr@4ax.com>
	<483FB68B.9060709@timgolden.me.uk>
Message-ID: <4840150A.3010100@co.marshall.ia.us>

Tim Golden wrote:
> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">[Ton van 
> Vliet]
>> IMHO the links could be a bit more visible.
>>
>> When looking at the 'Where do I begin' paragraph, it took me quite 
>> some time to notice that there *were* actually links in there (after 
>> being taken there by clicking on the 'Where do I begin' link in the 
>> left hand column already several times)
>>
>> Using Opera and FF on W2K at 1600x1200
>
> [Larry Bates]
>> On my monitors the blue links look "fuzzy".
>> Table of contents blue on blue is hard for me to read.
>> While I'm not crazy about the pink background, that is probably a 
>> personal preference.
>> (Windows XP Pro, running dual monitors at 1600 x 1200). 
>
> Thanks, Larry and Ton. FWIW, my visual design skills are pretty
> much nil. The best I can hope for is "clean and workmanlike". I 
> inherited most of the Sphinx default styles (including
> that red-on-pink for the warning) and adjusted a few, not least
> to make a clear distinction from the official Python docs.
>
> For now, I've modifed the styles to something a little more bland,
> using the conventional blue for links and a mild grey for the sidebar.
> I've left the red-on-pink, partly because it only appears for warnings
> and if it jars a bit, well that's probably not a bad thing in the circs.
> While I do want the appearance to be both attractive and readable,
> I'm trying to avoid spending too much time poking at RGB codes in
> the hope of achieving Visual Nirvana :)
>
> The front page is in one way the most important page and I'm not
> at all sure I've got it right yet. (Suggestions will be appreciated). But
> for now, my focus is getting content in, without which the front page
> is so much vapourware.
>
> Thanks v. much for the input. Keep it coming.
>
> TJG
>
> </div>

Tim,

I was looking at the front page and thought it might be nice to have a 
section devoted to Networking / Remote Access. Or maybe that's rolled 
into one of the other categories and I missed it.

In the "building and deploying" section, I see you have MinGW. I have a 
generic tutorial on how to compile extensions using that compiler that 
you're welcome to use and/or re-work for your site. You can find it 
here: http://pythonlibrary.org/mingw.htm  If you need help, let me know.

I have a similar one for VS2003, but it's much rougher 
(http://pythonlibrary.org/visual_studio.htm).

Also, there's a cool wrapper for py2exe called GUI2exe that makes using 
it much easier (at least for me): 
http://xoomer.alice.it/infinity77/main/GUI2Exe.html

Mike

From timr at probo.com  Fri May 30 19:38:12 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:38:12 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] building pywin32 on Server 2003 x64
In-Reply-To: <789d27b10805300600p24997328x737b8a831361f179@mail.gmail.com>
References: <789d27b10805300600p24997328x737b8a831361f179@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48403B84.7000108@probo.com>

Hanni Ali wrote:
>  
> I am attempting to build pywin32 for a 64 bit deployment.

Wow, that's a big task.  I hope you will be able to share what you learn 
with Mark.  Many people will be interested in this in the future.

Mark will have to decide whether the 64-bit version will need to be 
called "pywin64"...


> Although I seem to have hacked it suficiently to get it to compile 
> linking fails with errors of this manner:
>  
> MSVCRT.lib(gs_support.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol 
> __imp_Get
> CurrentThreadId referenced in function __security_init_cookie

In my experience, this usually indicates a mismatch between compiler 
versions, where some of the object or libraries were compiled with a 
different compiler.  Are you using the "amd64" libraries to link this?  
Have you downloaded a platform SDK, or are you using the one that ships 
with VS2005?

Are you compiling ON a Win64 system, or are you cross-compiling?

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From mail at timgolden.me.uk  Fri May 30 21:55:56 2008
From: mail at timgolden.me.uk (Tim Golden)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 20:55:56 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Request for comments
In-Reply-To: <4840150A.3010100@co.marshall.ia.us>
References: <48359D9B.7040109@timgolden.me.uk>	<prbv349jnkppdflbloi01gpaq7515f6jpr@4ax.com>	<483FB68B.9060709@timgolden.me.uk>
	<4840150A.3010100@co.marshall.ia.us>
Message-ID: <48405BCC.1040205@timgolden.me.uk>

Mike Driscoll wrote:
> I was looking at the front page and thought it might be nice to have a 
> section devoted to Networking / Remote Access. Or maybe that's rolled 
> into one of the other categories and I missed it.

Sounds good.

> In the "building and deploying" section, I see you have MinGW. I have a 
> generic tutorial on how to compile extensions using that compiler that 
> you're welcome to use and/or re-work for your site. You can find it 
> here: http://pythonlibrary.org/mingw.htm  If you need help, let me know.

It would be great if you could just reverse-engineer it into
a Sphinx page. I can move it around to meet my layout, such
as it is, but a ReST-format text would get things going all
the sooner.

> I have a similar one for VS2003, but it's much rougher 
> (http://pythonlibrary.org/visual_studio.htm).
> 
> Also, there's a cool wrapper for py2exe called GUI2exe that makes using 
> it much easier (at least for me): 
> http://xoomer.alice.it/infinity77/main/GUI2Exe.html

Thanks for all those. Very obviously (I hope) whatever categories
and still-to-come topics in there at present by no means represent
some kind of BDUF structure. They're pretty much the result of me
brainstorming on the Tube into work. (Which is where most of the
content is being written at the mo).

TJG

From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Sat May 31 00:37:40 2008
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 08:37:40 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] building pywin32 on Server 2003 x64
In-Reply-To: <789d27b10805300600p24997328x737b8a831361f179@mail.gmail.com>
References: <789d27b10805300600p24997328x737b8a831361f179@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <02d701c8c2a5$c722fb10$5568f130$@com.au>

pywin32 builds on a 64bit environment, but you need the SVN trunk of Python,
the CVS trunk of pywin32, and VS2008.  VS2005 support isn't *that*
interesting to me as there are no Python binaries available built with that
compiler and I can't get VS.NET to build with the most recent Vista SDK,
which is needed for recent pywin32 functionality.  A Python 2.6 amd64 build
will be included in the next release.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

 

From: python-win32-bounces at python.org
[mailto:python-win32-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Hanni Ali
Sent: Friday, 30 May 2008 11:00 PM
To: python-win32 at python.org
Subject: [python-win32] building pywin32 on Server 2003 x64

 

Hi All,

 

I am attempting to build pywin32 for a 64 bit deployment.

 

It is necessary for us to use 64 bit python due to objects within our
application exceeding 2GB in size.

 

I am attempting to do so using msvc 2005 which I know is not ideal, but I
have managed to build the other dependencies (Python, numpy), my attention
is now on pywin32.

 

Firstly although I have managed to get it compiling, I was not able to use
the instruction:

 

setup.py build --plat-name=win-amd64

 

The setup script reported plat-name as not existing.

 

Secondly is anyone building pywin32 on 64 bit machines?

 

Although I seem to have hacked it suficiently to get it to compile linking
fails with errors of this manner:

 

MSVCRT.lib(gs_support.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol
__imp_Get
CurrentThreadId referenced in function __security_init_cookie

 

I appreciate any help anyone can give.

 

Thanks

 

Hanni

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From aleksandrv at berkeley.edu  Sat May 31 01:57:40 2008
From: aleksandrv at berkeley.edu (Aleksandr VLADIMIRSKIY)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:57:40 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Exception setting a string using COM
Message-ID: <7918C1A70119A34887246E1DEC04C65302A7B27A@coemailsrv.coe.berkeley.edu>

Hello,

I'm attempting to set a string value using a COM interface to an application. I get the following traceback. Could anyone help me understand the nature of the error or how I might begin to discover it?

Thank you,

Aleksandr

Code and traceback:

In [2]: from win32com.client import Dispatch

In [3]: eApp = Dispatch("ExpressionMedia.Application")

In [4]: catalog = eApp.ActiveCatalog

In [5]: selection = catalog.Selection

In [6]: item = selection[0]

In [7]: path = item.Path

In [8]: path
Out[8]: u'E:\\Images\\Events\\Alumni and Student\\BEIA formerly DEAA\\2008\\Awards dinner CD 01\\DSC_0009.JPG'

In [9]: path = ""

In [10]: path
Out[10]: ''

In [11]: item.Path = ""
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
pywintypes.com_error                                 Traceback (most recent call last)

C:\<ipython console>

c:\python24\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\__init__.py in __setattr__(self, attr, value)
    461                 except KeyError:
    462                         raise AttributeError, "'%s' object has no attribute '%s'" % (repr(self), attr)
--> 463                 self._oleobj_.Invoke(*(args + (value,) + defArgs))
    464         def _get_good_single_object_(self, obj, obUserName=None, resultCLSID=None):
    465                 return _get_good_single_object_(obj, obUserName, resultCLSID)

com_error: (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None)

In [12]:

From timr at probo.com  Sat May 31 02:31:15 2008
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:31:15 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] Exception setting a string using COM
In-Reply-To: <7918C1A70119A34887246E1DEC04C65302A7B27A@coemailsrv.coe.berkeley.edu>
References: <7918C1A70119A34887246E1DEC04C65302A7B27A@coemailsrv.coe.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID: <48409C53.8020205@probo.com>

Aleksandr VLADIMIRSKIY wrote:
> I'm attempting to set a string value using a COM interface to an application. I get the following traceback. Could anyone help me understand the nature of the error or how I might begin to discover it?
> ...
>
> In [11]: item.Path = ""
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> pywintypes.com_error                                 Traceback (most recent call last)
>
> C:\<ipython console>
>
> c:\python24\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\__init__.py in __setattr__(self, attr, value)
>     461                 except KeyError:
>     462                         raise AttributeError, "'%s' object has no attribute '%s'" % (repr(self), attr)
> --> 463                 self._oleobj_.Invoke(*(args + (value,) + defArgs))
>     464         def _get_good_single_object_(self, obj, obUserName=None, resultCLSID=None):
>     465                 return _get_good_single_object_(obj, obUserName, resultCLSID)
>
> com_error: (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None)
>   

-2147467259 is 80004005, which is the rather unhelpful E_FAIL.

Sometimes, when it is mapping a settable/gettable property, the Python 
COM mapper creates a separate method for setting.  You might try:
    item.setPath( "" )

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From mbelzile at softimage.com  Sat May 31 05:02:59 2008
From: mbelzile at softimage.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marc-Andr=E9_Belzile?=)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 23:02:59 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] building pywin32 on Server 2003 x64
In-Reply-To: <02d701c8c2a5$c722fb10$5568f130$@com.au>
References: <789d27b10805300600p24997328x737b8a831361f179@mail.gmail.com>
	<02d701c8c2a5$c722fb10$5568f130$@com.au>
Message-ID: <0BCB4AE868D8934A8B3DCE3A58126A89022AF3A7@tewk-mbpf3>

Meanwhile, if you're still up to the challenge, here are the steps I used for building pywin32 for vista 64:
 
1) svn co http://svn.python.org/projects/python/trunk python 
2) compile python 2.6 for x64 from VS2008 IDE or Windows SDK
3) open x64 command-prompt 
4) log as anonymous to pywin32 server: cvs -d:pserver:anonymous at pywin32.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/pywin32 login 
5) download latest pywin32 source: cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous at pywin32.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/pywin32 co -P pywin32 
6) c:\dev\pywin32>\build ..\python2.6\python\PCbuild\python.exe setup.py build --plat-name=win-amd64 
7) c:\dev\pywin32>\build ..\python2.6\python\PCbuild\python.exe setup.py bdist_wininst --skip-build 

The pywin32 install package should be generated here c:\dev\pywin32>\build\dist\pywin32-210.9.win32.exe
 
Hope that helps
 
-mab

 
________________________________

From: python-win32-bounces at python.org [mailto:python-win32-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Hammond
Sent: May-30-08 6:38 PM
To: 'Hanni Ali'; python-win32 at python.org
Subject: Re: [python-win32] building pywin32 on Server 2003 x64



	pywin32 builds on a 64bit environment, but you need the SVN trunk of Python, the CVS trunk of pywin32, and VS2008.  VS2005 support isn't *that* interesting to me as there are no Python binaries available built with that compiler and I can't get VS.NET to build with the most recent Vista SDK, which is needed for recent pywin32 functionality.  A Python 2.6 amd64 build will be included in the next release.

	 

	Cheers,

	 

	Mark

	 

	From: python-win32-bounces at python.org [mailto:python-win32-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Hanni Ali
	Sent: Friday, 30 May 2008 11:00 PM
	To: python-win32 at python.org
	Subject: [python-win32] building pywin32 on Server 2003 x64

	 

	Hi All,

	 

	I am attempting to build pywin32 for a 64 bit deployment.

	 

	It is necessary for us to use 64 bit python due to objects within our application exceeding 2GB in size.

	 

	I am attempting to do so using msvc 2005 which I know is not ideal, but I have managed to build the other dependencies (Python, numpy), my attention is now on pywin32.

	 

	Firstly although I have managed to get it compiling, I was not able to use the instruction:

	 

	setup.py build --plat-name=win-amd64

	 

	The setup script reported plat-name as not existing.

	 

	Secondly is anyone building pywin32 on 64 bit machines?

	 

	Although I seem to have hacked it suficiently to get it to compile linking fails with errors of this manner:

	 

	MSVCRT.lib(gs_support.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol __imp_Get
	CurrentThreadId referenced in function __security_init_cookie

	 

	I appreciate any help anyone can give.

	 

	Thanks

	 

	Hanni

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From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Sat May 31 08:13:27 2008
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 16:13:27 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] building pywin32 on Server 2003 x64
In-Reply-To: <0BCB4AE868D8934A8B3DCE3A58126A89022AF3A7@tewk-mbpf3>
References: <789d27b10805300600p24997328x737b8a831361f179@mail.gmail.com>
	<02d701c8c2a5$c722fb10$5568f130$@com.au>
	<0BCB4AE868D8934A8B3DCE3A58126A89022AF3A7@tewk-mbpf3>
Message-ID: <002f01c8c2e5$754ab9f0$5fe02dd0$@com.au>

There is a buglet in bdist_wininst and --skip-build - note that the filename
created by your process doesn't have "py2.6" included in the filename.  To
fix that, the final command should also include "--target-version=2.6"

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

 

From: Marc-Andr? Belzile [mailto:mbelzile at softimage.com] 
Sent: Saturday, 31 May 2008 1:03 PM
To: Mark Hammond; Hanni Ali; python-win32 at python.org
Subject: RE: [python-win32] building pywin32 on Server 2003 x64

 

Meanwhile, if you're still up to the challenge, here are the steps I used
for building pywin32 for vista 64:

 

1) svn co http://svn.python.org/projects/python/trunk python 
2) compile python 2.6 for x64 from VS2008 IDE or Windows SDK
3) open x64 command-prompt 
4) log as anonymous to pywin32 server: cvs
-d:pserver:anonymous at pywin32.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/pywin32 login 
5) download latest pywin32 source: cvs -z3
-d:pserver:anonymous at pywin32.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/pywin32 co -P
pywin32 
6) c:\dev\pywin32>\build ..\python2.6\python\PCbuild\python.exe setup.py
build --plat-name=win-amd64 
7) c:\dev\pywin32>\build ..\python2.6\python\PCbuild\python.exe setup.py
bdist_wininst --skip-build 


The pywin32 install package should be generated here
c:\dev\pywin32>\build\dist\pywin32-210.9.win32.exe

 

Hope that helps

 

-mab

 

 

  _____  

From: python-win32-bounces at python.org
[mailto:python-win32-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Hammond
Sent: May-30-08 6:38 PM
To: 'Hanni Ali'; python-win32 at python.org
Subject: Re: [python-win32] building pywin32 on Server 2003 x64

pywin32 builds on a 64bit environment, but you need the SVN trunk of Python,
the CVS trunk of pywin32, and VS2008.  VS2005 support isn't *that*
interesting to me as there are no Python binaries available built with that
compiler and I can't get VS.NET to build with the most recent Vista SDK,
which is needed for recent pywin32 functionality.  A Python 2.6 amd64 build
will be included in the next release.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

 

From: python-win32-bounces at python.org
[mailto:python-win32-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Hanni Ali
Sent: Friday, 30 May 2008 11:00 PM
To: python-win32 at python.org
Subject: [python-win32] building pywin32 on Server 2003 x64

 

Hi All,

 

I am attempting to build pywin32 for a 64 bit deployment.

 

It is necessary for us to use 64 bit python due to objects within our
application exceeding 2GB in size.

 

I am attempting to do so using msvc 2005 which I know is not ideal, but I
have managed to build the other dependencies (Python, numpy), my attention
is now on pywin32.

 

Firstly although I have managed to get it compiling, I was not able to use
the instruction:

 

setup.py build --plat-name=win-amd64

 

The setup script reported plat-name as not existing.

 

Secondly is anyone building pywin32 on 64 bit machines?

 

Although I seem to have hacked it suficiently to get it to compile linking
fails with errors of this manner:

 

MSVCRT.lib(gs_support.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol
__imp_Get
CurrentThreadId referenced in function __security_init_cookie

 

I appreciate any help anyone can give.

 

Thanks

 

Hanni

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From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Sat May 31 09:18:42 2008
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 17:18:42 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] pywin32 build 211 released
Message-ID: <003b01c8c2ee$8ec50260$ac4f0720$@com.au>

Hi all,
  I've finally released pywin32 build 211!

These days, it almost goes without saying that Roger Upole again contributed
significant changes, and various other people also contributed bits and
pieces - the full change notes are at:
https://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=603349

Given there have been a large number of changes since the last release, I
recommend you exercise caution before upgrading production systems; however,
this release has been extensively tested recently, so I don't anticipate any
problems.

Get it now via https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=78018

Cheers,

Mark



From hanni.ali at gmail.com  Sat May 31 10:37:01 2008
From: hanni.ali at gmail.com (Hanni Ali)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 09:37:01 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] building pywin32 on Server 2003 x64
In-Reply-To: <002f01c8c2e5$754ab9f0$5fe02dd0$@com.au>
References: <789d27b10805300600p24997328x737b8a831361f179@mail.gmail.com>
	<02d701c8c2a5$c722fb10$5568f130$@com.au>
	<0BCB4AE868D8934A8B3DCE3A58126A89022AF3A7@tewk-mbpf3>
	<002f01c8c2e5$754ab9f0$5fe02dd0$@com.au>
Message-ID: <789d27b10805310137j48c7dcefr8b7d103ce88833c8@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for some of the advice,

A little background so my questions make sense.

This deployment is for a mission critical application. I am migrating it
from python-2.4 to 2.5 also changing the code which uses numarray/numeric to
use numpy which is one of the main parts of the move (I thought), this is
necessary as python > 2.5 uses numpy instead. This also should allow us to
manipulate objects over 2GB, I believe this would only be on 64bit platforms
though hence my need for 64 bit.

Firstly, I am currently using VS2005 as I am compiling Python-2.5.2 because
I was going for the most stable python. Everyone here seems to think I
should be using 2.6, as far as I can tell this is still in alpha and I am
not convinced of the wisdom of using an alpha testing system for production.
Secondly we don't have 2008 yet in my organisation and the express edition
doesn't contain the 64 bit compiler.

All my development is on a 64bit system (I am not cross compiling). I have
been using the SDK for server 2003. If I manage to sort this out anything I
have I will be sure to share. However although I have managed to coax
subversion to download through our firewall I have not yet managed to get
CVS to do so and have been downloading CVS at home on my linux machine and
e-mailing it in (not ideal!).

What do people think of python 2.6 on windows? is it ready? I note the first
beta should be out on the 4th June, this might be more reasonable. I don't
think I could sell "let's use this alpha version in production" to anyone ;)

Thanks,

Hanni




2008/5/31 Mark Hammond <mhammond at skippinet.com.au>:

>  There is a buglet in bdist_wininst and --skip-build - note that the
> filename created by your process doesn't have "py2.6" included in the
> filename.  To fix that, the final command should also include
> "--target-version=2.6"
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> *From:* Marc-Andr? Belzile [mailto:mbelzile at softimage.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, 31 May 2008 1:03 PM
> *To:* Mark Hammond; Hanni Ali; python-win32 at python.org
> *Subject:* RE: [python-win32] building pywin32 on Server 2003 x64
>
>
>
> Meanwhile, if you're still up to the challenge, here are the steps I used
> for building pywin32 for vista 64:
>
>
>
> 1) svn co http://svn.python.org/projects/python/trunk python
> 2) compile python 2.6 for x64 from VS2008 IDE or Windows SDK
> 3) open x64 command-prompt
> 4) log as anonymous to pywin32 server: cvs
> -d:pserver:anonymous at pywin32.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/pywin32 login
> 5) download latest pywin32 source: cvs -z3
> -d:pserver:anonymous at pywin32.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/pywin32 co -P
> pywin32
> 6) c:\dev\pywin32>\build ..\python2.6\python\PCbuild\python.exe setup.py
> build --plat-name=win-amd64
> 7) c:\dev\pywin32>\build ..\python2.6\python\PCbuild\python.exe setup.py
> bdist_wininst --skip-build
>
>
> The pywin32 install package should be generated here
> c:\dev\pywin32>\build\dist\pywin32-210.9.win32.exe
>
>
>
> Hope that helps
>
>
>
> -mab
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* python-win32-bounces at python.org [mailto:
> python-win32-bounces at python.org] *On Behalf Of *Mark Hammond
> *Sent:* May-30-08 6:38 PM
> *To:* 'Hanni Ali'; python-win32 at python.org
> *Subject:* Re: [python-win32] building pywin32 on Server 2003 x64
>
> pywin32 builds on a 64bit environment, but you need the SVN trunk of
> Python, the CVS trunk of pywin32, and VS2008.  VS2005 support isn't *that*
> interesting to me as there are no Python binaries available built with that
> compiler and I can't get VS.NET to build with the most recent Vista SDK,
> which is needed for recent pywin32 functionality.  A Python 2.6 amd64 build
> will be included in the next release.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> *From:* python-win32-bounces at python.org [mailto:
> python-win32-bounces at python.org] *On Behalf Of *Hanni Ali
> *Sent:* Friday, 30 May 2008 11:00 PM
> *To:* python-win32 at python.org
> *Subject:* [python-win32] building pywin32 on Server 2003 x64
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I am attempting to build pywin32 for a 64 bit deployment.
>
>
>
> It is necessary for us to use 64 bit python due to objects within our
> application exceeding 2GB in size.
>
>
>
> I am attempting to do so using msvc 2005 which I know is not ideal, but I
> have managed to build the other dependencies (Python, numpy), my attention
> is now on pywin32.
>
>
>
> Firstly although I have managed to get it compiling, I was not able to use
> the instruction:
>
>
>
> setup.py build --plat-name=win-amd64
>
>
>
> The setup script reported plat-name as not existing.
>
>
>
> Secondly is anyone building pywin32 on 64 bit machines?
>
>
>
> Although I seem to have hacked it suficiently to get it to compile linking
> fails with errors of this manner:
>
>
>
> MSVCRT.lib(gs_support.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol
> __imp_Get
> CurrentThreadId referenced in function __security_init_cookie
>
>
>
> I appreciate any help anyone can give.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Hanni
>
>
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From mc at mclaveau.com  Sat May 31 10:39:39 2008
From: mc at mclaveau.com (Michel Claveau)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 10:39:39 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] pywin32 build 211 released
In-Reply-To: <003b01c8c2ee$8ec50260$ac4f0720$@com.au>
References: <003b01c8c2ee$8ec50260$ac4f0720$@com.au>
Message-ID: <C2810F01F85C435E85FF13807B5A534C@MCI1330>

Hi!

> I've finally released pywin32 build 211!

Super mega very great new!

To celebrate that, I invite you to aperitif, today, at midday.
It's here:
 http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&om=1&ll=44.384614,4.639181&spn=0.013801,0.045877&t=h&z=15at very soon;o)Michel Claveau

From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Sat May 31 13:23:02 2008
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:23:02 +1000
Subject: [python-win32] building pywin32 on Server 2003 x64
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> Firstly, I am currently using VS2005 as I am compiling Python-2.5.2
because 
> I was going for the most stable python. Everyone here seems to think I
should 
> be using 2.6, as far as I can tell this is still in alpha and I am not
convinced
> of the wisdom of using an alpha testing system for production. Secondly we
don't 
> have 2008 yet in my organisation and the express edition doesn't contain
the 64 
> bit compiler.

I can sympathize - but the reality is that so far, it has been too hard for
me to support 64bit builds using the latest Vista features using VS.NET.  No
Python version has been released that uses VS2005, so that's not a priority
- although if people would like to contribute patches so people who do need
this can build it, I'd be happy to accept them.

> All my development is on a 64bit system (I am not cross compiling). I have
been 

Pedantic side-note: best I can tell, all the compilers are x86 binaries, so
even on a 64bit OS, we are still cross-compiling :)

> using the SDK for server 2003. If I manage to sort this out anything I
have I 
> will be sure to share. However although I have managed to coax subversion
to 
> download through our firewall I have not yet managed to get CVS to do so
and 
> have been downloading CVS at home on my linux machine and e-mailing it in
(not ideal!).

Grab the source .zip for build 211 now it is fresh, but otherwise, a work
around would be to update CVS from home, then run "setup.py sdist" and move
the resulting .zip file to work.

> What do people think of python 2.6 on windows? is it ready?

It's in pretty good shape IMO.

> I note the first beta should be out on the 4th June, this might be more
reasonable. 
> I don't think I could sell "let's use this alpha version in production" to
anyone ;)

I agree for 32bit builds, but IMO the 64 bit builds are somewhat different -
the lack of 64bit binaries for most python 2.5 extensions implies to me that
x64 on 2.6 isn't any risker; particularly when talking about 2.5 builds
using an "unsupported" compiler.  From pywin32's POV, I'm quite certain more
people are testing x64 using 2.6 builds than 2.5.

Cheers,

Mark


From bgailer at gmail.com  Sat May 31 15:57:19 2008
From: bgailer at gmail.com (bob gailer)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 09:57:19 -0400
Subject: [python-win32] pywin32 build 211 released
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Mark Hammond wrote:
> Hi all,
>   I've finally released pywin32 build 211!
>
> These days, it almost goes without saying that Roger Upole again contributed
> significant changes, and various other people also contributed bits and
> pieces - the full change notes are at:
> https://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=603349
I just ran the installer. Under Help - About it claims to be build 210.9!

The interactive window starts out:

PythonWin 2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 19 2006, 09:52:17) [MSC v.1310 32 bit 
(Intel)] on win32.
Portions Copyright 1994-2008 Mark Hammond - see 'Help/About PythonWin' 
for further copyright information.
 >>>

  Pythonwin.exe File Version is 2.5.211.0

What's wrong?

-- 
Bob Gailer
919-636-4239 Chapel Hill, NC