From nina.punji at gmail.com  Fri Dec  2 07:25:54 2022
From: nina.punji at gmail.com (QMUL_EECS DVS)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 12:25:54 +0000
Subject: [python-win32] Pywin32 without the interface
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Hi Tim,

Thanks for replying. Apologies for my vague question, let me see if I can
rephrase: I want to run pywin inside an aws instance, which only allows for
command line interface.

Currently I can use pywin in my local machine, but it needs to open Visio
and Word windows. However, in the aws instance it throws an error:
? Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "C:\Program
Files\Python37\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py", line 86, in
_GetGoodDispatch

    IDispatch = pythoncom.connect(IDispatch)

pywintypes.com_error: (-2147221021, 'Operation unavailable', None, None)







During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:







Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "C:\vmb-cdp-sld\cdp_sld_main.py", line 1046, in <module>

    main()

  File "C:\vmb-cdp-sld\cdp_sld_main.py", line 387, in main

    sld_file_name = build_sld_diagram(path, opp_id, version_no, route_full)

  File "C:\vmb-cdp-sld\cdp_sld_main.py", line 625, in build_sld_diagram

    appVisio = win32com.client.gencache.EnsureDispatch('Visio.Application')

  File "C:\Program
Files\Python37\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\gencache.py", line 618, in
EnsureDispatch

    disp = win32com.client.Dispatch(prog_id)

  File "C:\Program
Files\Python37\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\__init__.py", line 117, in
Dispatch

    dispatch, userName = dynamic._GetGoodDispatchAndUserName(dispatch,
userName, clsctx)

  File "C:\Program
Files\Python37\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py", line 106, in
_GetGoodDispatchAndUserName

    return (_GetGoodDispatch(IDispatch, clsctx), userName)

  File "C:\Program
Files\Python37\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py", line 89, in
_GetGoodDispatch

    IDispatch, None, clsctx, pythoncom.IID_IDispatch

pywintypes.com_error: (-2147024891, 'Access is denied.', None, None)?

Is it related to the fact that I can?t open Visio/ Word windows? If so, is
there a way for me to avoid this error?


Thanks

Nina

On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 at 05:07 Tim Roberts <timr at probo.com> wrote:

> On 11/30/22 8:16 AM, QMUL_EECS DVS wrote:
>
> > I hope you are well. I?m trying to use pywin32 on my local server, is
> > it possible to run it without the Visio/ Word interface open? Since I
> > can only see the command line
>
> The question doesn't make much sense.  Are you saying that you want to
> automate Visio and Word through pythoncom, but you don't want the
> application window to be visible?  That can be done. Please clarify.
>
> --
> Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
> Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From timr at probo.com  Fri Dec  2 15:09:28 2022
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 12:09:28 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Pywin32 without the interface
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References: <CA+LmRRg1_SfeysYJCRKVpyqFu6Ox0NLySGcAg7TbadKNTAwaMg@mail.gmail.com>
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On 12/2/22 4:25 AM, QMUL_EECS DVS wrote:

>
> Thanks for replying. Apologies for my vague question, let me see if I 
> can rephrase: I want to run pywin inside an aws instance, which only 
> allows for command line interface.
>
> Currently I can use pywin in my local machine, but it needs to open 
> Visio and Word windows. However, in the aws instance it throws an error:
> ??Traceback (most recent call last):
>
> File "C:\Program 
> Files\Python37\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py", line 86, 
> in _GetGoodDispatch
>
> IDispatch = pythoncom.connect(IDispatch)
>
> pywintypes.com_error: (-2147221021, 'Operation unavailable', None, None)
>
> ...
>
> File "C:\Program 
> Files\Python37\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py", line 89, 
> in _GetGoodDispatch
>
> IDispatch, None, clsctx, pythoncom.IID_IDispatch
>
> pywintypes.com_error: (-2147024891, 'Access is denied.', None, None)?
>
> Is it related to the fact that I can?t open Visio/ Word windows? If 
> so, is there a way for me to avoid this error?
>
The first and most obvious question is, do you actually have Office and 
Visio installed on your AWS instance?? How did you do that without a 
UI?? Launching Word like this usually does not bring up a UI window 
unless you specifically set "xxx.Visible = True", so I'm guessing 
there's something else going on.

-- 
Tim Roberts,timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
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From timr at probo.com  Fri Dec  2 15:09:34 2022
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 12:09:34 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Pywin32 without the interface
In-Reply-To: <CA+LmRRiM-VLVvpY3aREjSCtGxh7G_FiXK_eVObW4kGUJ7EgsjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+LmRRg1_SfeysYJCRKVpyqFu6Ox0NLySGcAg7TbadKNTAwaMg@mail.gmail.com>
 <51adf103-005e-527c-1c8a-1b4585da808a@probo.com>
 <CA+LmRRiM-VLVvpY3aREjSCtGxh7G_FiXK_eVObW4kGUJ7EgsjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b9014552-16c1-096a-3c2e-87c3a2fe784f@probo.com>

On 12/2/22 4:25 AM, QMUL_EECS DVS wrote:

>
> Thanks for replying. Apologies for my vague question, let me see if I 
> can rephrase: I want to run pywin inside an aws instance, which only 
> allows for command line interface.
>
> Currently I can use pywin in my local machine, but it needs to open 
> Visio and Word windows. However, in the aws instance it throws an error:
> ??Traceback (most recent call last):
>
> File "C:\Program 
> Files\Python37\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py", line 86, 
> in _GetGoodDispatch
>
> IDispatch = pythoncom.connect(IDispatch)
>
> pywintypes.com_error: (-2147221021, 'Operation unavailable', None, None)
>
> ...
>
> File "C:\Program 
> Files\Python37\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py", line 89, 
> in _GetGoodDispatch
>
> IDispatch, None, clsctx, pythoncom.IID_IDispatch
>
> pywintypes.com_error: (-2147024891, 'Access is denied.', None, None)?
>
> Is it related to the fact that I can?t open Visio/ Word windows? If 
> so, is there a way for me to avoid this error?
>
The first and most obvious question is, do you actually have Office and 
Visio installed on your AWS instance?? How did you do that without a 
UI?? Launching Word like this usually does not bring up a UI window 
unless you specifically set "xxx.Visible = True", so I'm guessing 
there's something else going on.

-- 
Tim Roberts,timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
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From timr at probo.com  Fri Dec  2 15:10:21 2022
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 12:10:21 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Pywin32 without the interface
In-Reply-To: <CA+LmRRiM-VLVvpY3aREjSCtGxh7G_FiXK_eVObW4kGUJ7EgsjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+LmRRg1_SfeysYJCRKVpyqFu6Ox0NLySGcAg7TbadKNTAwaMg@mail.gmail.com>
 <51adf103-005e-527c-1c8a-1b4585da808a@probo.com>
 <CA+LmRRiM-VLVvpY3aREjSCtGxh7G_FiXK_eVObW4kGUJ7EgsjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0ac53fc7-a37b-cf9c-6285-0f79f8b1c97f@probo.com>

On 12/2/22 4:25 AM, QMUL_EECS DVS wrote:

>
> Thanks for replying. Apologies for my vague question, let me see if I 
> can rephrase: I want to run pywin inside an aws instance, which only 
> allows for command line interface.
>
> Currently I can use pywin in my local machine, but it needs to open 
> Visio and Word windows. However, in the aws instance it throws an error:
> ??Traceback (most recent call last):
>
> File "C:\Program 
> Files\Python37\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py", line 86, 
> in _GetGoodDispatch
>
> IDispatch = pythoncom.connect(IDispatch)
>
> pywintypes.com_error: (-2147221021, 'Operation unavailable', None, None)
>
> ...
>
> File "C:\Program 
> Files\Python37\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py", line 89, 
> in _GetGoodDispatch
>
> IDispatch, None, clsctx, pythoncom.IID_IDispatch
>
> pywintypes.com_error: (-2147024891, 'Access is denied.', None, None)?
>
> Is it related to the fact that I can?t open Visio/ Word windows? If 
> so, is there a way for me to avoid this error?
>
The first and most obvious question is, do you actually have Office and 
Visio installed on your AWS instance?? How did you do that without a 
UI?? Launching Word like this usually does not bring up a UI window 
unless you specifically set "xxx.Visible = True", so I'm guessing 
there's something else going on.

-- 
Tim Roberts,timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
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From timr at probo.com  Fri Dec  2 15:22:05 2022
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 12:22:05 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Pywin32 without the interface
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References: <CA+LmRRg1_SfeysYJCRKVpyqFu6Ox0NLySGcAg7TbadKNTAwaMg@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CA+LmRRiM-VLVvpY3aREjSCtGxh7G_FiXK_eVObW4kGUJ7EgsjQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <9d8d62d8-5d22-3121-b2d2-476914b61afc@probo.com>

On 12/2/22 12:10 PM, Tim Roberts wrote:

> On 12/2/22 4:25 AM, QMUL_EECS DVS wrote:
>
>> Is it related to the fact that I can?t open Visio/ Word windows? If 
>> so, is there a way for me to avoid this error?
>
> The first and most obvious question is, do you actually have Office 
> and Visio installed on your AWS instance?? How did you do that without 
> a UI?? Launching Word like this usually does not bring up a UI window 
> unless you specifically set "xxx.Visible = True", so I'm guessing 
> there's something else going on.
>
My apologies for the multiple replies.? Either my connection or my mail 
server had a "burp", and it told me it had not sent anything when it 
clearly had.

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.


From samuel.06 at hotmail.com  Fri Dec  2 19:50:38 2022
From: samuel.06 at hotmail.com (Samuel Therrien)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2022 00:50:38 +0000
Subject: [python-win32] Obsolete code paths and version-specific checks
Message-ID: <DM6PR02MB4571E7DD838BFE8971835468E4169@DM6PR02MB4571.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Hi!
While working on adding annotations for typing support in pure python modules, I noticed a lot? of conditions and code made to run on older versions of Python. Which are both EOL and no longer supported in pywin32. Removing those would alleviate a lot of code and help smooth out the addition and validation of Python 3.7+ annotations.
I would like to do a PR to tackle this, but first, is there anything specific I should be weary of?
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From skippy.hammond at gmail.com  Sun Dec  4 02:50:54 2022
From: skippy.hammond at gmail.com (Mark Hammond)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2022 18:50:54 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] Obsolete code paths and version-specific checks
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References: <DM6PR02MB4571E7DD838BFE8971835468E4169@DM6PR02MB4571.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <a612f258-0d58-e94e-9997-8326e8eba3cd@gmail.com>

On 3/12/2022 11:50 am, Samuel Therrien wrote:
> Hi!
> While working on adding annotations for typing support in pure python 
> modules, I noticed a *lot*? of conditions and code made to run on older 
> versions of Python. Which are both EOL and no longer supported in 
> pywin32. Removing those would alleviate a lot of code and help smooth 
> out the addition and validation of Python 3.7+ annotations.
> I would like to do a PR to tackle this, but first, is there anything 
> specific I should be weary of?

Hi Samuel,
   I'm perfectly fine with removing unsupported code - a PR just doing 
that before any others would be perfect! I'd also love to know more 
about the annotations, but having that convo on github seems fine.

Cheers,

Mark

From nina.punji at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 08:25:06 2022
From: nina.punji at gmail.com (QMUL_EECS DVS)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 13:25:06 +0000
Subject: [python-win32] Pywin32 without the interface
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Hi Tim,

Thanks for your reply. We do have Visio and Word installed on the instance,
because it allows us to use a windows interface. However, we are trying to
create an Airflow job that calls the python script that uses pywin32, hence
we can?t use the ui.

But at the moment, when we use pywin32 using the ui it always opens Visio
and Word , even though we don?t specifically set  "xxx.Visible = True" as
you mentioned.

Thanks,

On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 at 20:22 Tim Roberts <timr at probo.com> wrote:

> On 12/2/22 12:10 PM, Tim Roberts wrote:
>
> > On 12/2/22 4:25 AM, QMUL_EECS DVS wrote:
> >
> >> Is it related to the fact that I can?t open Visio/ Word windows? If
> >> so, is there a way for me to avoid this error?
> >
> > The first and most obvious question is, do you actually have Office
> > and Visio installed on your AWS instance?  How did you do that without
> > a UI?  Launching Word like this usually does not bring up a UI window
> > unless you specifically set "xxx.Visible = True", so I'm guessing
> > there's something else going on.
> >
> My apologies for the multiple replies.  Either my connection or my mail
> server had a "burp", and it told me it had not sent anything when it
> clearly had.
>
> --
> Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
> Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
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From brian at brian3johnson.me  Mon Dec  5 20:56:04 2022
From: brian at brian3johnson.me (Brian Johnson)
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2022 01:56:04 -0000
Subject: [python-win32] pywin32 Documentation
Message-ID: <591f0513-8a33-4034-9bed-b8f895a6a0aa@me.com>

Hi.I took a stab at upgrading and "untangling" the documentation. I am willing to work on this documentation "untangling" project. Before I put more effort into it, I would like to get feedback from Mark and other contributors on what I'm proposing. If so, I'll log an Issue and/or pull request.Motivation: I need to work with a COM server application and want to use python. I found it challenging to find documentation and examples. Also, Mark mentioned this in the repo README: "Lots of that is very old, but some is auto-generated and current. Would love help untangling the docs!"Where: The current iteration is hosted on my forked repo at?Python for Windows Extensions ? pywin32 305 documentation (brian3johnson.github.io). If this effort moves forward, I'll pull it down once it's built and posted from mhammond's repo.How: I am building the documentation with sphinx?Welcome ? Sphinx documentation (sphinx-doc.org)?to update the narrative docs and automate or semi-automate the pywin32 API reference. I am using the default theme. I'm using reStructuredText (.rst) for the docs.What: I included all the existing narrative documentation from the CHM. Most of it remains unformatted, except for a couple of docs. I added a Home page, Installation, Support, and Resources pages, and the start of a Getting Started Tutorial.Proposed Next Steps:1. Confirm if I move forward with sphinx. If so, confirm if we use reStructuredText (reStructuredText ? Sphinx documentation (sphinx-doc.org)) or Markdown (Markdown ? Sphinx documentation (sphinx-doc.org))?for narrative documents.2. Finish formatting the existing narrative docs per rst or md.3. Add docstrings to .py source files to generate API docs.4. Convert some of the "samples" embedded in the source files to "How-tos".I have more ideas and suggestions, which I can share in an Issue, PR, or on this mailing list.I look forward to hearing what you think.Sincerely,Brian
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From mhammond at skippinet.com.au  Mon Dec  5 21:26:55 2022
From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 13:26:55 +1100
Subject: [python-win32] pywin32 Documentation
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References: <591f0513-8a33-4034-9bed-b8f895a6a0aa@me.com>
Message-ID: <0c59c9ba-5062-8448-5bc8-649be9c9fdb5@skippinet.com.au>

Hi Brian,
   Thanks for your interest. I probably should have written more about 
this earlier. From my POV, the main considerations I have are:

1) Much of the documentation is inside the c++ source formatted via 
"autoduck" style comments. I really don't want to abandon this 
documentation, but I don't think it's helpful in a sphinx-based world?

2) There's no where near as much docs embedded in the .py code, which is 
something that we can address. However, some work has started on 
https://github.com/mhammond/pywin32/issues/1913, which hopes to add type 
annotations - see also yesterday's mail to this list on this topic. 
While I'm not quite sure exactly what approach is being suggested for 
that, it seems possible it will have at least *some* overlap here?

3) Working out a good layout in the repo for docs is also important, but 
I don't forsee any real obstacles here - as you mention, a TOC etc are 
important. .rst seems like a perfectly reasonable format for 
hand-written docs, and given there aren't really that many hand-written 
docs in the tree which remain relevant, hand-converting them to largely 
unformatted markdown seems reasonable in the first instance. There's 
always going to be a bit of tension between keeping the docs organized 
and trying to keep the docs fairly close to the implementation they are 
documenting, but we can manage that.

4) I'd want to kill the existing tooling entirely as it's just going 
stale. Eg, the way https://mhammond.github.io/pywin32/ is built is 
interesting (it decompiles the .chm!) but that seems like a dead-end - I 
suspect that at some point it will end up extremely difficult to build 
that .chm in the first place - finding the Windows HTML Help compiler 
today is difficult enough.

So really, the big unknowns for me that need answering are:

* How exactly do the autoduck comments get handled as they change?

* How does adding docs to the .py files overlap with adding type hints?

* Does it replace the existing system rather than adding yet more 
complexity to it?

I'll look a little more at your repo over the next week or so, but I'm 
currently a bit short on time, but really am interested in improving the 
docs, so thanks!

Mark



On 6/12/2022 12:56 pm, Brian Johnson wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I took a stab at upgrading and "untangling" the documentation. I am 
> willing to work on this documentation "untangling" project. Before I put 
> more effort into it, I would like to get feedback from Mark and other 
> contributors on what I'm proposing. If so, I'll log an Issue and/or pull 
> request.
> 
> *Motivation*: I need to work with a COM server application and want to 
> use python. I found it challenging to find documentation and examples. 
> Also, Mark mentioned this in the repo README: /"Lots of that is very 
> old, but some is auto-generated and current. Would love help untangling 
> the docs!"/
> 
> *Where*: The current iteration is hosted on my forked repo at Python for 
> Windows Extensions ? pywin32 305 documentation (brian3johnson.github.io) 
> <https://brian3johnson.github.io/pywin32/index.html>. If this effort 
> moves forward, I'll pull it down once it's built and posted from 
> mhammond's repo.
> 
> *How*: I am building the documentation with sphinx Welcome ? Sphinx 
> documentation (sphinx-doc.org) 
> <https://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/master/>?to update the narrative docs and 
> automate or semi-automate the pywin32 API reference. I am using the 
> default theme. I'm using reStructuredText (.rst) for the docs.
> 
> *What*: I included all the existing narrative documentation from the 
> CHM. Most of it remains unformatted, except for a couple of docs. I 
> added a Home page, Installation, Support, and Resources pages, and the 
> start of a Getting Started Tutorial.
> 
> *Proposed Next Steps*:
> 
> 1. Confirm if I move forward with sphinx. If so, confirm if we use 
> reStructuredText (reStructuredText ? Sphinx documentation 
> (sphinx-doc.org) 
> <https://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/master/usage/restructuredtext/index.html>) or Markdown (Markdown ? Sphinx documentation (sphinx-doc.org) <https://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/master/usage/markdown.html>)?for narrative documents.
> 2. Finish formatting the existing narrative docs per rst or md.
> 3. Add docstrings to .py source files to generate API docs.
> 4. Convert some of the "samples" embedded in the source files to "How-tos".
> 
> I have more ideas and suggestions, which I can share in an Issue, PR, or 
> on this mailing list.
> 
> I look forward to hearing what you think.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Brian
> 
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32


From brian at brian3johnson.me  Mon Dec  5 22:51:34 2022
From: brian at brian3johnson.me (Brian Johnson)
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2022 03:51:34 -0000
Subject: [python-win32] pywin32 Documentation
In-Reply-To: <0c59c9ba-5062-8448-5bc8-649be9c9fdb5@skippinet.com.au>
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Hi Mark.Thank you for the feedback. My responses in-line below. Also...Example of reformatted narrative doc:Quick Start to Client side COM and Python ? pywin32 305 documentation (brian3johnson.github.io)Example of api docs generated from .py docstring:adodbapi package ? pywin32 305 documentation (brian3johnson.github.io)Note: the TOC sidebar still needs work. Thanks for your interest. I probably should have written more about this earlier. From my POV, the main considerations I have are:1) Much of the documentation is inside the c++ source formatted via "autoduck" style comments. I really don't want to abandon this documentation, but I don't think it's helpful in a sphinx-based world?BJ > I would not want to abandon this either. I don't know much about Autoduck apart from gathering that it generates documentation from the C++ source. There may be an approach using SWIG with some modifications within the C++ source code:https://www.swig.org/Doc4.1/Python.html#Python_nn65?2) There's no where near as much docs embedded in the .py code, which is something that we can address. However, some work has started on https://github.com/mhammond/pywin32/issues/1913, which hopes to add type annotations - see also yesterday's mail to this list on this topic. While I'm not quite sure exactly what approach is being suggested for that, it seems possible it will have at least *some* overlap here?BJ > Yes, I saw the email about this yesterday. Good news is that those type hints/annotations can be used by sphinx to generate the api docs. In fact, this is something I would have done as part of this documentation effort.3) Working out a good layout in the repo for docs is also important, but I don't forsee any real obstacles here - as you mention, a TOC etc are important. .rst seems like a perfectly reasonable format for hand-written docs, and given there aren't really that many hand-written docs in the tree which remain relevant, hand-converting them to largely unformatted markdown seems reasonable in the first instance. There's always going to be a bit of tension between keeping the docs organized and trying to keep the docs fairly close to the implementation they are documenting, but we can manage that.BJ> Agreed.4) I'd want to kill the existing tooling entirely as it's just going stale. Eg, the way https://mhammond.github.io/pywin32/ is built is interesting (it decompiles the .chm!) but that seems like a dead-end - I suspect that at some point it will end up extremely difficult to build that .chm in the first place - finding the Windows HTML Help compiler today is difficult enough.BJ> I agree with this as well. In fact, sphinx can generate HTMLHelp for compiling to CHM if you still want to have a CHM file available.So really, the big unknowns for me that need answering are:* How exactly do the autoduck comments get handled as they change?BJ> Maybe via SWIG. More research needed.* How does adding docs to the .py files overlap with adding type hints?BJ> Overlaps perfectly.* Does it replace the existing system rather than adding yet more complexity to it?BJ> ReplacesI'll look a little more at your repo over the next week or so, but I'm currently a bit short on time, but really am interested in improving the docs, so thanks!BJ> Sounds good! Thanks!
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From vernondcole at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 08:33:05 2022
From: vernondcole at gmail.com (Vernon D. Cole)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 06:33:05 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] pywin32 Documentation
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The most important document for adodbapi is in Markdown. (That's an
improvement - - I wrote it in .odt) so if that helps the decision, I would
say lean toward that direction.
It needs to be linked / indexed in where people can actually find it.
adodbapi/quick_reference.md
<https://github.com/mhammond/pywin32/blob/main/adodbapi/quick_reference.md> If
we make an actual .docs directory, it should move there.

It also needs an edit pass to get rid of obsolete references to Python 2
and to check that the external links still work and so forth. I'll add that
to my to-do list.



On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 6:57 PM Brian Johnson <brian at brian3johnson.me> wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I took a stab at upgrading and "untangling" the documentation. I am
> willing to work on this documentation "untangling" project. Before I put
> more effort into it, I would like to get feedback from Mark and other
> contributors on what I'm proposing. If so, I'll log an Issue and/or pull
> request.
>
> *Motivation*: I need to work with a COM server application and want to
> use python. I found it challenging to find documentation and examples.
> Also, Mark mentioned this in the repo README: *"Lots of that is very old,
> but some is auto-generated and current. Would love help untangling the
> docs!"*
>
> *Where*: The current iteration is hosted on my forked repo at Python for
> Windows Extensions ? pywin32 305 documentation (brian3johnson.github.io)
> <https://brian3johnson.github.io/pywin32/index.html>. If this effort
> moves forward, I'll pull it down once it's built and posted from mhammond's
> repo.
>
> *How*: I am building the documentation with sphinx Welcome ? Sphinx
> documentation (sphinx-doc.org) <https://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/master/> to
> update the narrative docs and automate or semi-automate the pywin32 API
> reference. I am using the default theme. I'm using reStructuredText (.rst)
> for the docs.
>
> *What*: I included all the existing narrative documentation from the CHM.
> Most of it remains unformatted, except for a couple of docs. I added a Home
> page, Installation, Support, and Resources pages, and the start of a
> Getting Started Tutorial.
>
> *Proposed Next Steps*:
>
> 1. Confirm if I move forward with sphinx. If so, confirm if we use
> reStructuredText (reStructuredText ? Sphinx documentation (sphinx-doc.org)
> <https://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/master/usage/restructuredtext/index.html>)
> or Markdown (Markdown ? Sphinx documentation (sphinx-doc.org)
> <https://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/master/usage/markdown.html>) for narrative
> documents.
> 2. Finish formatting the existing narrative docs per rst or md.
> 3. Add docstrings to .py source files to generate API docs.
> 4. Convert some of the "samples" embedded in the source files to "How-tos".
>
> I have more ideas and suggestions, which I can share in an Issue, PR, or
> on this mailing list.
>
> I look forward to hearing what you think.
>
> Sincerely,
> Brian
> _______________________________________________
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From vernondcole at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 08:51:56 2022
From: vernondcole at gmail.com (Vernon D. Cole)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 06:51:56 -0700
Subject: [python-win32] pywin32 Documentation
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Brian:

I did not see your entry before writing mine.

Fantastic work on the adodbapi calling interfaces!

I think that there is still a need for something like the quick_reference,
so that there can be discussion about things like the extensions. The
ability to switch between paramstyles is probably still unique. There was
discussion in the dbapi community that it was impossible to do. Sometimes
that sort of thing is best presented in paragraph format.

I still have the original source for *Python Programming on Win32* (thank
you, Mark) but O'Reilly was not interested in publishing a second edition
several years ago. Perhaps it is time to ask them again.

On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 3:02 AM Brian Johnson <brian at brian3johnson.me> wrote:

> Hi Mark.
>
> Thank you for the feedback. My responses in-line below. Also...
>
> *Example of reformatted narrative doc*:
> Quick Start to Client side COM and Python ? pywin32 305 documentation
> (brian3johnson.github.io)
> <https://brian3johnson.github.io/pywin32/com/QuickStartClientCom.html>
> *Example of api docs generated from .py docstring*:
> adodbapi package ? pywin32 305 documentation (brian3johnson.github.io)
> <https://brian3johnson.github.io/pywin32/adodbapi/apidoc/adodbapi.html>
> *Note: the TOC sidebar still needs work.*
>
> Thanks for your interest. I probably should have written more about
> this earlier. From my POV, the main considerations I have are:
>
> 1) Much of the documentation is inside the c++ source formatted via
> "autoduck" style comments. I really don't want to abandon this
> documentation, but I don't think it's helpful in a sphinx-based world?
>
>
> BJ > I would not want to abandon this either. I don't know much about
> Autoduck apart from gathering that it generates documentation from the C++
> source. There may be an approach using SWIG with some modifications within
> the C++ source code:
> https://www.swig.org/Doc4.1/Python.html#Python_nn65
>
> 2) There's no where near as much docs embedded in the .py code, which is
> something that we can address. However, some work has started on
> https://github.com/mhammond/pywin32/issues/1913, which hopes to add type
> annotations - see also yesterday's mail to this list on this topic.
> While I'm not quite sure exactly what approach is being suggested for
> that, it seems possible it will have at least *some* overlap here?
>
>
> BJ > Yes, I saw the email about this yesterday. Good news is that those
> type hints/annotations can be used by sphinx to generate the api docs. In
> fact, this is something I would have done as part of this documentation
> effort.
>
> 3) Working out a good layout in the repo for docs is also important, but
> I don't forsee any real obstacles here - as you mention, a TOC etc are
> important. .rst seems like a perfectly reasonable format for
> hand-written docs, and given there aren't really that many hand-written
> docs in the tree which remain relevant, hand-converting them to largely
> unformatted markdown seems reasonable in the first instance. There's
> always going to be a bit of tension between keeping the docs organized
> and trying to keep the docs fairly close to the implementation they are
> documenting, but we can manage that.
>
>
> BJ> Agreed.
>
> 4) I'd want to kill the existing tooling entirely as it's just going
> stale. Eg, the way https://mhammond.github.io/pywin32/ is built is
> interesting (it decompiles the .chm!) but that seems like a dead-end - I
> suspect that at some point it will end up extremely difficult to build
> that .chm in the first place - finding the Windows HTML Help compiler
> today is difficult enough.
>
>
> BJ> I agree with this as well. In fact, sphinx can generate HTMLHelp for
> compiling to CHM if you still want to have a CHM file available.
>
> So really, the big unknowns for me that need answering are:
>
> * How exactly do the autoduck comments get handled as they change?
>
>
> BJ> Maybe via SWIG. More research needed.
>
> * How does adding docs to the .py files overlap with adding type hints?
>
>
> BJ> Overlaps perfectly.
>
> * Does it replace the existing system rather than adding yet more
> complexity to it?
>
>
> BJ> Replaces
>
> I'll look a little more at your repo over the next week or so, but I'm
> currently a bit short on time, but really am interested in improving the
> docs, so thanks!
>
>
> BJ> Sounds good! Thanks!
>
> _______________________________________________
> python-win32 mailing list
> python-win32 at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
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From brian at brian3johnson.me  Tue Dec  6 08:43:27 2022
From: brian at brian3johnson.me (Brian Johnson)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 07:43:27 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] pywin32 Documentation
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From jacob at blindza.co.za  Tue Dec  6 08:34:04 2022
From: jacob at blindza.co.za (jacob kruger)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 15:34:04 +0200
Subject: [python-win32] imap mail parsing - forms of socket timeout/EOF
 errors
Message-ID: <bd358e9e-c184-3176-79e8-7d648aa6479c@blindza.co.za>

Hi there


Know haven't posted on this list for a little while now, but, thought 
may as well ask if any of you guys have an idea about what seems to be a 
pretty common issue, but, with no specific, or consistent workarounds 
that am finding mention of via various google searches, etc.


Effectively, if trying to use either the imaplib, or the poplib modules 
to query a remote mail server inbox, to then parse the mail messages 
contents, to insert them into a postgresql database, for more efficient 
querying/referencing, I am, at times - not consistently at all - 
receiving one of the two following messages, depending on which 
protocol/client I was trying to make use of:-


the error message/exception information am getting from imap is the 
following:
imaplib.IMAP4.abort: command: FETCH => socket error: EOF

the pop3 error message is the following:
poplib.error_proto: -ERR EOF


For example, if just run same code against my one test server, with just 
100 messages in the inbox, it works fine every time on both protocols, 
but, when try run it against the live mailbox, which has over 2 million 
mails in it, this happens on a regular, if inconsistent basis when you 
try retrieving specific messages each time, based on their server-side 
UID/ID.


So, just wondering if anyone has come across things like this before, 
has ideas about implementing a form of timeout, or connection renewal, 
or if you have ideas about additional resources could try making use of 
instead for this type of thing - main thing is want to be able to, 
initially at least, just parse all the mail contents, updating the 
database on a repeated basis, since this inbox receives a lot of e-mails 
every hour/day, and, possibly, later on, be able to retrieve or interact 
with mail messages as well?


Thanks in advance


-- 

Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
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From brian at brian3johnson.me  Tue Dec  6 09:26:20 2022
From: brian at brian3johnson.me (Brian Johnson)
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2022 14:26:20 -0000
Subject: [python-win32] pywin32 Documentation
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Vernon.The fantastic work is all yours. I simply started converting your quick_reference.md to reStructuredText.-BrianOn Dec 6, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Vernon D. Cole <vernondcole at gmail.com> wrote:Brian:I did not see your entry before writing mine.??Fantastic work on the adodbapi calling interfaces!?I think that there is still a need for something like the quick_reference, so that there can be discussion about things like the extensions. The ability to switch between paramstyles is probably still unique. There was discussion in the dbapi community that it was impossible to do. Sometimes that sort of thing is best presented in paragraph format.I still have the original source for Python Programming on Win32?(thank you, Mark) but O'Reilly was not interested in publishing a second edition several?years ago. Perhaps it is time to ask them again.On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 3:02 AM Brian Johnson <brian at brian3johnson.me> wrote:Hi Mark.Thank you for the feedback. My responses in-line below. Also...Example of reformatted narrative doc:Quick Start to Client side COM and Python ? pywin32 305 documentation (brian3johnson.github.io)Example of api docs generated from .py docstring:adodbapi package ? pywin32 305 documentation (brian3johnson.github.io)Note: the TOC sidebar still needs work.Thanks for your interest. I probably should have written more about this earlier. From my POV, the main considerations I have are:1) Much of the documentation is inside the c++ source formatted via "autoduck" style comments. I really don't want to abandon this documentation, but I don't think it's helpful in a sphinx-based world?BJ > I would not want to abandon this either. I don't know much about Autoduck apart from gathering that it generates documentation from the C++ source. There may be an approach using SWIG with some modifications within the C++ source code:https://www.swig.org/Doc4.1/Python.html#Python_nn65?2) There's no where near as much docs embedded in the .py code, which is something that we can address. However, some work has started on https://github.com/mhammond/pywin32/issues/1913, which hopes to add type annotations - see also yesterday's mail to this list on this topic. While I'm not quite sure exactly what approach is being suggested for that, it seems possible it will have at least *some* overlap here?BJ > Yes, I saw the email about this yesterday. Good news is that those type hints/annotations can be used by sphinx to generate the api docs. In fact, this is something I would have done as part of this documentation effort.3) Working out a good layout in the repo for docs is also important, but I don't forsee any real obstacles here - as you mention, a TOC etc are important. .rst seems like a perfectly reasonable format for hand-written docs, and given there aren't really that many hand-written docs in the tree which remain relevant, hand-converting them to largely unformatted markdown seems reasonable in the first instance. There's always going to be a bit of tension between keeping the docs organized and trying to keep the docs fairly close to the implementation they are documenting, but we can manage that.BJ> Agreed.4) I'd want to kill the existing tooling entirely as it's just going stale. Eg, the way https://mhammond.github.io/pywin32/ is built is interesting (it decompiles the .chm!) but that seems like a dead-end - I suspect that at some point it will end up extremely difficult to build that .chm in the first place - finding the Windows HTML Help compiler today is difficult enough.BJ> I agree with this as well. In fact, sphinx can generate HTMLHelp for compiling to CHM if you still want to have a CHM file available.So really, the big unknowns for me that need answering are:* How exactly do the autoduck comments get handled as they change?BJ> Maybe via SWIG. More research needed.* How does adding docs to the .py files overlap with adding type hints?BJ> Overlaps perfectly.* Does it replace the existing system rather than adding yet more complexity to it?BJ> ReplacesI'll look a little more at your repo over the next week or so, but I'm currently a bit short on time, but really am interested in improving the docs, so thanks!BJ> Sounds good! Thanks!_______________________________________________ python-win32 mailing list python-win32 at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
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From savoy at liberation.red  Tue Dec  6 13:08:42 2022
From: savoy at liberation.red (savoy)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 12:08:42 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] Trouble finding MSOLAP provider with adodbapi
Message-ID: <20221206180842.5ckirybiipqvltho@desktop>

I'm trying to use python to connect to a Microsoft Analysis Services
cube for MDX queries due to the phasing out of a SQL server that used to
fill its place as the access point.

I've downloaded the most up-to-date MSOLAP library from Microsoft's site
(16.0.56.19) and installed it. The location of the library is then saved
as C:\\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\AS
OLEDB\140\msolap.dll.

Using the connection string I've told is the correct to use (and also
verifying it by using it in Microsoft Excel) with adodbapi.connect(),
I get an OperationalError exception in python. Below is the text which
also includes the obfuscated connection string.

(com_error(-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, 'ADODB.Connection',
'Provider cannot be found. It may not be properly installed.',
'C:\\WINDOWS\\HELP\\AD027.CHM', 1240655, -2146824582), None), 'Error
opening connection to "Provider=MSOLAP.8;Integrated
Security=SSPI;Persist Security Info=True;Initial
Catalog=bi_mdp_SEMANTIC_live_db;Data Source=subdomain.domain.com;MDX
Compatibility=1;Safety Options=2;MDX Missing Member Mode=Error;Update
Isolation Level=2"').

Is there something that I'm missing in order for the connection to work?
I take it that as I can get it working in Excel there isn't anything
wrong with the installation, am I correct in that assumption? And if so,
is there a piece I've left out?

Thank you,
savoy

From timr at probo.com  Tue Dec  6 18:11:26 2022
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 15:11:26 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] Trouble finding MSOLAP provider with adodbapi
In-Reply-To: <20221206180842.5ckirybiipqvltho@desktop>
References: <20221206180842.5ckirybiipqvltho@desktop>
Message-ID: <d377e06c-bab9-5e9f-0ece-b00e93ad4248@probo.com>

savoy wrote:
>
> I've downloaded the most up-to-date MSOLAP library from Microsoft's site
> (16.0.56.19) and installed it. The location of the library is then saved
> as C:\\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Analysis Services\AS
> OLEDB\140\msolap.dll.

That's a 32-bit DLL.? Your ODBC driver needs to match your Python 
bittedness, and most of us run 64-bit Python.? Is there a 64-bit version 
of the connector?

-- 
Tim Roberts, timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.

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From savoy at liberation.red  Fri Dec  9 13:39:08 2022
From: savoy at liberation.red (savoy)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 12:39:08 -0600
Subject: [python-win32] Trouble finding MSOLAP provider with adodbapi
In-Reply-To: <d377e06c-bab9-5e9f-0ece-b00e93ad4248@probo.com>
References: <20221206180842.5ckirybiipqvltho@desktop>
 <d377e06c-bab9-5e9f-0ece-b00e93ad4248@probo.com>
Message-ID: <20221209183908.ps2rr4lflkgkshhb@desktop>

>That's a 32-bit DLL.? Your ODBC driver needs to match your Python 
>bittedness, and most of us run 64-bit Python.? Is there a 64-bit 
>version of the connector?

Well this is a lapse for me, I entirely misread the download link for
the 64-bit version labeled as "amd64" as "arm64". I'm not very used to
the way Microsoft organizes its documentation. The driver working in
Excel is what threw me off, I was sure I was running the 64-bit Excel.

I'm waiting on someone with admin rights to my machine to install the
64-bit version to verify, but that should hopefully clear it up.

savoy

From matteo.boscolo at boscolini.eu  Thu Dec 15 13:22:44 2022
From: matteo.boscolo at boscolini.eu (Matteo Boscolo)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 19:22:44 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] python 3.8 Alternative of py2exe for com server
Message-ID: <111ae860-e11f-b362-a9de-53e56188f277@boscolini.eu>

Dear list there is any alternative to build a com server and freeze it 
in python 3.8

regards,

Matteo




From antoine.ferron at bitlogik.fr  Thu Dec 15 15:20:48 2022
From: antoine.ferron at bitlogik.fr (Antoine FERRON)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 21:20:48 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] python 3.8 Alternative of py2exe for com server
In-Reply-To: <111ae860-e11f-b362-a9de-53e56188f277@boscolini.eu>
References: <111ae860-e11f-b362-a9de-53e56188f277@boscolini.eu>
Message-ID: <7EFD5258-0FDD-4637-9971-E8ACF0ED6FEE@getmailspring.com>

Hi Matteo,

Yes, use pyinstaller. I let py2exe for 4 years I think, and pyinstaller is very helpful to build binary package for end users. I'm using to build binary packages for multiple projects, up to 3.9, no issue, and it gets better and better. I'm not using for your use case, but it should work.

Regards,
_____________________________________
Antoine FERRON
Pr?sident ? BitLogiK

bitlogik.fr (https://bitlogik.fr) ? PGP Key ID#22F95B31 (https://keys.openpgp.org/search?q=antoine.ferron%40bitlogik.fr)
On Dec 15 2022, at 7:22 pm, Matteo Boscolo <matteo.boscolo at boscolini.eu> wrote:
> Dear list there is any alternative to build a com server and freeze it
> in python 3.8
>
> regards,
> Matteo
>
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From bkline at rksystems.com  Mon Dec 19 09:40:29 2022
From: bkline at rksystems.com (Bob Kline)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 09:40:29 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Windows scripting can't find _ctypes
Message-ID: <CAGjKmVpCb=f1CZbxeXLoSsHrkFYxZ7bPSHnxO3gMRgJ-GorJvA@mail.gmail.com>

I just ran into a snag after upgrading to Python 3.11.1. Running
Python 3.10.1 the ctypes module imports with no problems. Same under
Windows scripting using the pywin32 package. With 3.11.1 importing
ctypes directly still works. However, under Windows scripting using
the pywin32 package "import ctypes" fails with the following error
output:

IActiveScriptError QI - unknown IID {B21FB2A1-5B8F-4963-8C21-21450F84ED7F}
E:\tmp\test2.pys(12, 0) Python ActiveX Scripting Engine: Traceback
(most recent call last):
  File "<Script Block >", line 12, in <module>
    import ctypes
  File "e:\Python\Lib\ctypes\__init__.py", line 8, in <module>
    from _ctypes import Union, Structure, Array
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named '_ctypes'

Anyone else stumbled onto this problem?

--
Bob Kline
https://www.rksystems.com
mailto:bkline at rksystems.com

From bkline at rksystems.com  Mon Dec 19 10:17:52 2022
From: bkline at rksystems.com (Bob Kline)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 10:17:52 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] Windows scripting can't find _ctypes
In-Reply-To: <CAGjKmVpCb=f1CZbxeXLoSsHrkFYxZ7bPSHnxO3gMRgJ-GorJvA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGjKmVpCb=f1CZbxeXLoSsHrkFYxZ7bPSHnxO3gMRgJ-GorJvA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGjKmVrz2f4nhfDfWTzMLR9pnhEeuahB3D0N=OgErjXFFkf8LA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 9:40 AM Bob Kline <bkline at rksystems.com> wrote:
> ....
> Anyone else stumbled onto this problem?

I found a solution. If I add e:\Python\DLLs to the PYTHONPATH
environment variable, Windows script is able to import the ctypes
module. I would appear that something has changed in the communication
between Python and the pywin32 package, as I didn't have to do that
previously, and I assume that the change was introduced by the CPython
team, as I'm running the same version of pywin32 (305) now as I was
before the Python upgrade.

Hope this helps someone else.

Cheers,
Bob

From moi15moismokerlolilol at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 11:03:45 2022
From: moi15moismokerlolilol at gmail.com (Moi15 Moi)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 11:03:45 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] How to use DirectWrite with pywin32?
Message-ID: <CAKoyp4MjO3Zn2Z_4sk7VsKBkvoqEHDjgvGu=LHF=wi3TWiviww@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I am a little confused.

My goal is to list all the filename of the font installed without listing
the file in those 2 folders:
- C:\Windows\Fonts
- %userprofile%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Fonts

To do that, here is all the logic needed:
https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/24001#issuecomment-1293303753

But, how can I implement it with pywin32?
Is it possible?

Thank you and have a nice day
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From moi15moismokerlolilol at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 09:29:17 2022
From: moi15moismokerlolilol at gmail.com (Moi15 Moi)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 09:29:17 -0500
Subject: [python-win32] List all fonts filename
Message-ID: <CAKoyp4N5N2ZkiZj0+Dw=Fq+coNk76SxgC9fG846ygeKhk-8MXw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
Is it possible to list all the fonts filename with pywin32?

>From what I can see, it is possible with the GetFontData
<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/wingdi/nf-wingdi-getfontdata>
from
GDI.

Here is an example in c++:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16769758/get-a-font-filename-based-on-the-font-handle-hfont

Have a nice day
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From piotrwilkla at gmail.com  Wed Dec 28 05:37:52 2022
From: piotrwilkla at gmail.com (Piotr Wilk)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2022 11:37:52 +0100
Subject: [python-win32] Strange behaviour of SHGetFileInfo
Message-ID: <CAAS3pHeFTr_V0qqAUMAYv7jeTW4GZy8HCYEF3yj=Ud25pWSfyQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,
I'm trying to get the information about the current overlay icon for a file
on Windows. To get this information I use the SHGetFileInfo function. Here
is my function code:

def get_system_overlay_index_fo_file(path: Path) -> int:
>     flags = shellcon.SHGFI_ICON | 0x000000040  # SHGFI_OVERLAYINDEX
>     file_info = shell.SHGetFileInfo(str(path), 0, flags)
>     return file_info[1][1]  >> 24
>

Docs for reference:

> SHGFI_OVERLAYINDEX (0x000000040)
>
> Version 5.0
> <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/desktop/legacy/bb776779(v=vs.85)>.
> Return the index of the overlay icon. The value of the overlay index is
> returned in the *upper eight bits* of the *iIcon* member of the structure
> specified by *psfi*. This flag requires that the *SHGFI_ICON* be set as
> well.
>

The problem is, this function behaves differently in different
environments.
1. In my sandbox project it returns correct icon index.

   - The whole structure returned by SHGetFileInfo: (1, (15535299, 83886083,
   403490781, '', ''))
   - Index:  83886083  >> 24 = 5

 2. However, In the project I'm working on the same function returns
different results. Even if I run them at the same time, for the same file.

   - The whole structure returned by SHGetFileInfo: (1, (15535299, 0,
   403490781, '', ''))
   - Index: 0

After trying to figure it out for a couple of days, I have no more ideas.
Has anyone encountered such behaviour? Why does the same function return
different values for the same input? I would appreciate any feedback or
ideas (or redirection to correct the place where I could ask this question
:)).

Cheers,
Piotr
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From timr at probo.com  Fri Dec 30 21:24:17 2022
From: timr at probo.com (Tim Roberts)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 18:24:17 -0800
Subject: [python-win32] List all fonts filename
In-Reply-To: <CAKoyp4N5N2ZkiZj0+Dw=Fq+coNk76SxgC9fG846ygeKhk-8MXw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKoyp4N5N2ZkiZj0+Dw=Fq+coNk76SxgC9fG846ygeKhk-8MXw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <941642a7-f5f4-6e0e-8c59-38f728ec4b20@probo.com>

On 12/23/22 6:29 AM, Moi15 Moi wrote:

>
> Is it possible to list all the fonts filename with pywin32?
>
> From what I can see, it is possible with the GetFontData 
> <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/wingdi/nf-wingdi-getfontdata>?from 
> GDI.

GetFontData is certainly available in pywin32, as are most Win32 APIs.? 
However, it only returns information about one font at a time -- the 
font that is currently selected into that DC.

You can use EnumFontFamilies or EnumFontFamiliesEx, available in win32gui.

http://timgolden.me.uk/pywin32-docs/win32gui__EnumFontFamilies_meth.html

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5760594/pywin32-enumfontfamilies-breaks-python

-- 
Tim Roberts,timr at probo.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
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