Just found this in the python newsgroup http://starship.python.net/crew/theller/ctypes.html I had written a struct handler in win32gui and Python to support common controls. I think perhaps this is a better mechanism.. comments? Brad Clements, bkc@murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax AOL-IM: BKClements