[PythonCE] Python WinCE 'stuff'

Brad Clements bkc at murkworks.com
Wed Jun 29 17:10:16 CEST 2005


Are you on the pythonce mailing list? I think others will be interested in 
what you are doing.

On 28 Jun 2005 at 14:47, Douglas Napoleone wrote:

> Once I have something concrete I'll post a patch or two.
> I just have a few questions (which are not about the source
> code).

> 1. What are the on-going plans for this project?

I don't think there's a single place to go to find the plans for "this project". 
The SF project itself pretty much serves as a container to distribute files 
from, hold patches, etc.

Unlike other SF projects, there doesn't seem to be a core group of 
developers working on "python for CE". At the least, interested 
developers come and go.

Would you like to take a more active role in "the project" such as it is?

> 2. Any plans on rolling it into python proper?

Personally I have hoped for this over the past 4 years or so. However 
there always seems to be too many changes to the base code needed to 
make it work on CE (lack of proper floating point errors, for example).

So, we end up with patches that are really too big to vet and integrate into 
core python. 

Perhaps as EVC and the CE runtime gets better, that problem will be 
reduced. However we still have older devices to support, so I'm doubtful 
we'll get an out-of-the-box compile for CE anytime soon.

> 3. If not any plans on 2.4.x?

I have started in on 2.4, first by getting a good subversion tree with diffs 
for 2.3. 

Then I was going to apply those diffs to the 2.4 codebase.

However, I haven't quite finished my changes for the 2.3 version.

I left off working on runtime issues, like the deployment of the library and 
dlls on external flash.. Proper handling of system directories using 
system names (so that non-english CE devices would function properly).


However, I, like others, am a contract programmer with limited time and 
means. I have no clients interested in python on CE, so no one to 
sponsor my time, and I'm quite busy doing "real work".

Also, I have an original iPaq, so I'm already 2 generations behind on the 
CE platform.  

That's one thing I find really annoying about CE.. Platform differences, 
EVC3 vs EVC4 vs. the new visual studio coming out.

Its a giant pain and, I don't have a personal steak in it I'm afraid.

I'd also like to have a CE version of Hap Debugger



So my python ce work has been on and off. mostly off lately.

Brad Clements,                bkc at murkworks.com    (315)268-1000
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