[PythonCE] pygame / distutils

[René Dudfield]

What is the best way to compile extensions for python CE ?

Adam: do you have a link to those SCUMVM files?

Any further progress?

Why not pygame-ctypes?  It was slow, buggy, and non-portable - and C
pygame worked fine.  The author was paid to do it, and stopped when
the money ran out and moved on to pyglet.  pygame has a bunch of C
code which just can't run fast enough in python.  Pygame is not just a
SDL wrapper, it's got a bunch of other code in it too.  ctypes has an
overhead for each call which is annoying for real time apps.
However... pygame-ctypes is still useful for some things, and if pypy
ever gets fast it will become more important (assuming they never
release a C api for pypy).

anyway...


I'd going to try the following order of things...
- get a simple C program to compile and run on the device.
- get a simple C python extension module working.
- get a simple SDL program working.
- get some pygame modules running.
- get full pygame test suite working.
- port pygame example programs so they work ok on pythonCE too.




On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Adam Walley <adam.walley at gmail.com> wrote:
> My plans, exactly ;-) BTW why was pygame-ctypes abandoned? Reading some of
> the past info on it, it seemed like a great idea to use the ctypes module.
>
> 2008/8/7 René Dudfield <renesd at gmail.com>
>>
>> nice work :)
>>
>> It can be easier to first try and get the SDL test programs compiling.
>>  Then try and get a really simple, minimal python extension
>> compiling... and you guessed it, try and get them both compiling
>> together :)
>>
>> There's a few wince folks hanging out on the libsdl mailing list if
>> you have troubles there.
>>
>> cu,
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Adam Walley <adam.walley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Well, I have been attempting to get something working, but have been
>> > struggling to get the SDL compiled correctly (without SDL, there is no
>> > point
>> > in trying to get pygame working). In my investigations, I came across
>> > the
>> > SCUMM forum. Now the SCUMMVM appears to be a fully working product on
>> > various platforms including WinCE. My attempts to compile some simple
>> > test
>> > programs using the SDL source available from the official SDL site
>> > failed
>> > (mostly because the source will not compile 'as is' and needs some
>> > tweaking
>> > which is probably beyond my capabilities). However, the SCUMM forum
>> > pointed
>> > me to a set of libraries from 'knakos'. I quickly set up a new project,
>> > with
>> > my simple test program, and lo! it compiled first time and tested
>> > correctly
>> > on my WM5 device. I assume these SCUMM libraries have already been
>> > adapted
>> > to work on WinCE, and since the SCUMM idea is to get retro graphical
>> > games
>> > working, I think that pygame will probably get all the functionality it
>> > needs from them.
>> >
>> > Now, on to getting pygame working! I will attempt to get some of the
>> > pygame
>> > source modules compiled as PYDs to see if they will import and work
>> > under
>> > PythonCE. I have not yet attempted to get a DLL compiled using these new
>> > libraries so may yet hit a wall. I will report back with any news.
>> >
>> > Rene, thanks for your comments. It's nice to know there is interest from
>> > the
>> > pygame side.
>> >
>> > If anyone else would like to provide comments/advice/code to get pygame
>> > working, it will be welcomed.
>> >
>> > Adam.
>> >
>> > On 06/08/2008, René Dudfield <renesd at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> if anyone has any project files to build pygame on pythonce I'd love
>> >> to have them included with pygame.  I'm an author/maintainer of pygame
>> >> and have commit access to svn, so could add project files if someone
>> >> makes them... I could also add a pygame download for python CE to the
>> >> pygame.org download page.
>> >>
>> >> Or you could add compilation instructions to the pygame wiki here:
>> >> http://pygame.org/wiki/CompilePythonCE
>> >>
>> >> I have a winCE phone so would love to be able to get pygame running on
>> >> it
>> >> :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> cheers,
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