Ok, I may have to drop back to OS 9 from OS X to create an app for a client. What is the state/viability of Tk on Classic? And are there any GUI IDE kinds of tools other than the one that comes with Python on OS 9 from Just that I should check out? Any other big red flags or cautions? -- Dan Shafer, Product Development Expert Helping you turn your best ideas into products that sell http://www.danshafer.com